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BREAKING: House Dems will force vote on Independent Commission to investigate Trump/Russia. (Original Post) brooklynite May 2017 OP
Yes!!! nt Phoenix61 May 2017 #1
What are the chances this would work? Tiggeroshii May 2017 #2
It's lose-lose for GOP renegade000 May 2017 #5
Dems can't force anything zipplewrath May 2017 #3
Disagree... brooklynite May 2017 #4
No zipplewrath May 2017 #14
Not possible. procon May 2017 #6
well they either let it happen or block it in which case they wear it during their re-election Ohioblue22 May 2017 #7
It was never going anywhere, in all likelihood this was just a fundraising vehicle. nt procon May 2017 #8
Well, there is that thing they did in West Wing where they hid a bunch of reps till the pubs left... Amaryllis May 2017 #9
Might not this time, but RepubliCONs will peel away from the CON and then it will be tsunami. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #12
Get GOP members on record voting against justice & truth. The truth will come out; sooner better. nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #10
Nope, not possible; Dems don't have the number of votes required to even start procon May 2017 #13
That's the point. The RepubliCons will be on record voting against this process starting. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #15
Jeebus wept... there will not be a vote. procon May 2017 #16
They have to vote on it to vote on it. OK. It will be recorded & the next. Prob 3rd succeeds. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #20
Probably not, as it will be a voice vote. nt. druidity33 May 2017 #23
K&R... spanone May 2017 #11
K&R red dog 1 May 2017 #17
Like I said, the dems in the Senate and House BigmanPigman May 2017 #18
The letter's not signed? Who sent the letter? Honeycombe8 May 2017 #19
The tweet says "Pelosi" BumRushDaShow May 2017 #21
Thx. nt Honeycombe8 May 2017 #22
Take a stand to protect the United States of America Achilleaze May 2017 #24

renegade000

(2,301 posts)
5. It's lose-lose for GOP
Mon May 15, 2017, 03:39 PM
May 2017

If they block it, it's going to look awful in 2018 after tons more incriminating evidence and behavior comes out. If they pass it, it will just accelerate the process.

brooklynite

(93,873 posts)
4. Disagree...
Mon May 15, 2017, 03:33 PM
May 2017

...there are certain procedural motions that require a vote. They can't force the House to create the Commission, but they can put all Republicans on the record opposing one.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
14. No
Mon May 15, 2017, 04:26 PM
May 2017

They can just "put them on the record" as voting down a procedural motion. There's no real way to force them to vote on the specific issue at all. Otherwise the minority could bring the place to a halt. And an awful lot of those procedural motions can be handled by voice votes so no one is "on the record".

procon

(15,805 posts)
6. Not possible.
Mon May 15, 2017, 03:49 PM
May 2017

A discharge petition is a procedural tactic that allows an absolute majority of the House of Representatives (218 lawmakers) to force a floor vote on a bill, even if the Party that controls the House floor opposes it.

Now, Democrats have only 201 seats in the House, and Republicans have 234... so tell me how Pelosi is going tp push a discharge petition to force a vote?

Amaryllis

(9,523 posts)
9. Well, there is that thing they did in West Wing where they hid a bunch of reps till the pubs left...
Mon May 15, 2017, 04:18 PM
May 2017

They should consult with Aaron Sorkin.

procon

(15,805 posts)
16. Jeebus wept... there will not be a vote.
Mon May 15, 2017, 04:54 PM
May 2017

Look, in order for this ploy to begin every single Dem in the House would need to a agree to it, including the precarious ones from red states, AND another 17 Republicans would need to jump ship and join the Democrats. Only then, when the Dems were guaranteed the minimum 218 supporting votes, could they bring a discharge petition to the floor of the House and force the members to vote on it.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,789 posts)
20. They have to vote on it to vote on it. OK. It will be recorded & the next. Prob 3rd succeeds.
Mon May 15, 2017, 05:43 PM
May 2017

Maybe it will be not be a House floor vote, but there will be a record as to who voted to vote on it.

BigmanPigman

(51,432 posts)
18. Like I said, the dems in the Senate and House
Mon May 15, 2017, 05:14 PM
May 2017

should do anything and everything imaginable to force this thing into action ASAP! Too much is getting destroyed or changed. I watched Madoff last night and his staff even made new documents and files look old by microwaving them, staining them etc.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
19. The letter's not signed? Who sent the letter?
Mon May 15, 2017, 05:23 PM
May 2017

Strong words in it.

I don't know if they can do this, but I wonder if it was wise to accuse the "Republicans in Congress" the same as Trump.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
24. Take a stand to protect the United States of America
Tue May 16, 2017, 07:04 AM
May 2017

Here's your chance to go on the record republicans.

Are you truly loyal to the United States? Or are you going to keep your eyes and mouths closed, let this one slide, and thereby in a historically epic moment FAIL the American people, and the great promise that is America.

Show us what ya got.

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