Tue May 16, 2017, 09:17 AM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
Pelosi did NOT say no impeachment- Please watch video:http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/05/16/nancy-pelosi-town-hall-donald-trump-impeachment-sot.cnn This OP here does not care that that is not what she said even though plenty of posters are informing and asking to change title: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9069752 I wonder what is up with that?
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Madam45for2923 | May 2017 | OP |
Madam45for2923 | May 2017 | #1 | |
Eyeball_Kid | May 2017 | #45 | |
Madam45for2923 | May 2017 | #2 | |
pangaia | May 2017 | #32 | |
Madam45for2923 | May 2017 | #3 | |
L. Coyote | May 2017 | #29 | |
JTFrog | May 2017 | #35 | |
Madam45for2923 | May 2017 | #39 | |
JTFrog | May 2017 | #40 | |
murielm99 | May 2017 | #47 | |
Madam45for2923 | May 2017 | #4 | |
sheshe2 | May 2017 | #30 | |
Madam45for2923 | May 2017 | #31 | |
sheshe2 | May 2017 | #36 | |
Madam45for2923 | May 2017 | #38 | |
Madam45for2923 | May 2017 | #5 | |
Cha | May 2017 | #6 | |
Madam45for2923 | May 2017 | #7 | |
Cha | May 2017 | #52 | |
underthematrix | May 2017 | #8 | |
Madam45for2923 | May 2017 | #9 | |
hamsterjill | May 2017 | #41 | |
skylucy | May 2017 | #10 | |
Madam45for2923 | May 2017 | #12 | |
still_one | May 2017 | #27 | |
skylucy | May 2017 | #49 | |
Bleacher Creature | May 2017 | #11 | |
Madam45for2923 | May 2017 | #13 | |
Bleacher Creature | May 2017 | #18 | |
Madam45for2923 | May 2017 | #20 | |
DURHAM D | May 2017 | #14 | |
Madam45for2923 | May 2017 | #16 | |
scheming daemons | May 2017 | #15 | |
Madam45for2923 | May 2017 | #17 | |
JTFrog | May 2017 | #28 | |
William769 | May 2017 | #19 | |
L. Coyote | May 2017 | #21 | |
mcar | May 2017 | #22 | |
NCTraveler | May 2017 | #23 | |
brer cat | May 2017 | #24 | |
Madam45for2923 | May 2017 | #37 | |
L. Coyote | May 2017 | #25 | |
Wounded Bear | May 2017 | #26 | |
sheshe2 | May 2017 | #33 | |
bucolic_frolic | May 2017 | #34 | |
yardwork | May 2017 | #42 | |
Madam45for2923 | May 2017 | #44 | |
blue-wave | May 2017 | #43 | |
bettyellen | May 2017 | #46 | |
Ninsianna | May 2017 | #48 | |
Starry Messenger | May 2017 | #50 | |
riversedge | May 2017 | #51 |
Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:18 AM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
1. Again Pelosi did not say NO impeachment
Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #1)
Tue May 16, 2017, 11:21 AM
Eyeball_Kid (7,197 posts)
45. Disinformation/misinformation specialists are everywhere.
On its face, it looks like the Pelosi "no impeachment" post was intentionally misleading.
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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:19 AM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
2. What can we do when an OP won't correct a title?
Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #2)
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:34 AM
pangaia (24,324 posts)
32. I'd say don't worry about it.. Soon it will be buried..
But all appreciate your correction.. K&R ![]() |
Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:20 AM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
3. Divisive to not change the title
Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #3)
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:30 AM
L. Coyote (51,127 posts)
29. Indeed.
Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #3)
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:35 AM
JTFrog (14,274 posts)
35. Then I guess it's going according to plan.
Pretty sick of it these ploys myself.
I think the only way this place could become a functioning community, instead of farming an ocean of slime and fake news being thrown at Democrats, is for the admin to be a little more active and get rid of that stupid jury system. Lord of the Flies mob rule never ends well. I don't think they will ever return back to the sane system. It's just that it's getting really hard to hear ourselves over all the fucking noise in here. |
Response to JTFrog (Reply #35)
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:40 AM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
39. Someone said that Pelosi was awesome at the town-hall & instead that OP trying to discredit her!
Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #39)
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:41 AM
JTFrog (14,274 posts)
40. Yes. It's beyond sad.
It's dangerous.
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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:21 AM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
4. People please watch the video:
Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #4)
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:31 AM
sheshe2 (78,315 posts)
30. I watched it live last night.
You are correct. She did NOT say impeachment was off the table.
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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #30)
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:32 AM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
31. Plus she was at a townhall while the story was developing
Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #31)
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:36 AM
sheshe2 (78,315 posts)
36. Correct again.
PS...she was awesome last night, Madam.
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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #36)
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:37 AM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
38. Awesome! Instead of discussing that people trying to discredit her!
Unf*kinbelievable!
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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:21 AM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
5. Plus she was at a townhall when all this info came out
Response to Cha (Reply #6)
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:24 AM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
7. Thank you Cha!
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Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #7)
Tue May 16, 2017, 07:36 PM
Cha (284,052 posts)
52. Mahalo to you, Madam!
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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:26 AM
underthematrix (5,800 posts)
8. Thank you for bringing this up. What Pelosi said was
both subtle and powerful. She was saying impeachment must be based on facts. The implication was congressional especially senate is in the process of collecting those facts.
That's what I heard. |
Response to underthematrix (Reply #8)
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:29 AM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
9. Plus this was last night when she was at a townhall- story developing
Response to underthematrix (Reply #8)
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:44 AM
hamsterjill (14,948 posts)
41. That's what I heard, as well.
In fact, I thought she was much stronger on this part of the town hall than in other areas. I didn't think it was one of her best nights, but she did not equivocate on this matter. She was strong here.
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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:30 AM
skylucy (3,684 posts)
10. Thank you! You are correct! I hope the untrue OP/thread will be corrected or hidden.
Response to skylucy (Reply #10)
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:33 AM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
12. They seem to want to stir division - not a real discussion-
I get a whiff of "eau d'agenda"
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Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #12)
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:18 AM
still_one (87,325 posts)
27. That is exactly the point. Thanks Madam
Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #12)
Tue May 16, 2017, 04:54 PM
skylucy (3,684 posts)
49. Yeah. I think you're right.
Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:32 AM
Bleacher Creature (11,038 posts)
11. I'm pretty sure that was the point.
The title was so misleading, it has to be intentional.
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Response to Bleacher Creature (Reply #11)
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:34 AM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
13. and after people tell them time & time again- they don't care-
Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #13)
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:41 AM
Bleacher Creature (11,038 posts)
18. For more than 9 hours!
Response to Bleacher Creature (Reply #18)
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:45 AM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
20. Asking people to harass her over a fake take on her words.
Trying to discredit a DEM figure over a fake take on her words.
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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:36 AM
DURHAM D (32,195 posts)
14. It can be helpful as it shows who the disruptors are
among us. The number of longtime members is particularly interesting.
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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #14)
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:37 AM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
16. Yes, and why is anyone recommending with that misleading title and righteous rant?
Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:36 AM
scheming daemons (25,487 posts)
15. Bernie.... you need to change your OP. It was false.
Having a liar in the White House is bad enough.
*WE* have to be true to the facts. |
Response to scheming daemons (Reply #15)
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:40 AM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
17. Do people wish us -DEMS- well? or are they trying to discredit DEM figures by twisting
their words and then going on a righteous rant!
Asking us to harass one of our own over a fake take on what they said. |
Response to scheming daemons (Reply #15)
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:28 AM
JTFrog (14,274 posts)
28. In some people, irrational hatred of Hillary overcomes any decency, logic or common sense.
I've given up on those people completely. There is something much deeper going on that I am not qualified to deal with.
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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:45 AM
William769 (52,908 posts)
19. You have to look at last year, to see what is being posted this year.
Yep, you're going to have to read between the lines on that one.
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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:46 AM
L. Coyote (51,127 posts)
21. Thank you. FAKE BS OP titles sucks.
Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:51 AM
NCTraveler (30,481 posts)
23. I watched the video before responding to the other op.
It's pretty clear that some simply trust what is in a subject line.
It's also clear someone is attempting to generate division among us. |
Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:05 AM
brer cat (20,989 posts)
24. It's ridiculous that we have to fight for *facts*
from both the right and left. Thank you for trying to set the record straight, but it will probably fall on deaf ears.
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Response to brer cat (Reply #24)
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:36 AM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
37. Yep! Am trying to make that attempt FAIL! Make so obvious cannot try next time.
Trying to say ~ WE SEE YOU!
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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:09 AM
L. Coyote (51,127 posts)
25. kick for visibility
Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:13 AM
Wounded Bear (55,452 posts)
26. K & R ......agreed...
while she said, in effect, "not yet," the long term answer is still open, from what I heard on the clip.
As the party leader in the House, she kind of has to avoid rampant speculation and hyperbole based on innuendo and rumor. One thing she can do is count votes, and with a Repub majority, the votes aren't there and getting overly excited can work against us. Besides, if we impeach now we might lose one of our best issues to run on next year. That's not "keeping our powder dry," that's strategy. ![]() |
Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:34 AM
sheshe2 (78,315 posts)
33. K&R
Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:34 AM
bucolic_frolic (36,229 posts)
34. Pelosi reads political winds better than anyone
You don't survive in politics for a lifetime without that skill
If the time comes, she'll be explicitly in favor Impeachment must have legitimacy to succeed and convict That's why Nixon resigned, and Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton weren't convicted |
Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 11:04 AM
yardwork (56,078 posts)
42. Misleading OPs like that lead to Republican victories.
That's probably the goal.
We've seen a lot of propaganda and misinformation posted on DU for years. It's all designed to undermine Democrats and assure that Republicans take power. It's disgusting. Thanks for this OP. Sunshine is the best disinfectant. |
Response to yardwork (Reply #42)
Tue May 16, 2017, 11:13 AM
Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)
44. Sunshine is the best disinfectant. After last year we need lots of both!
Thanks yardwork.
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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 11:13 AM
blue-wave (3,958 posts)
43. You're Right
She did not say no to impeachment. She is the person in the room that this country needs right now. She's trying to approach this logically and with reason. It is the type of approach that our country's future depends on right now and is the reasoned approach in which it was founded.
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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 11:36 AM
bettyellen (47,209 posts)
46. I don't wonder what's up with that. Propaganda against the Dem party has been here for years.
Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 01:52 PM
Ninsianna (1,349 posts)
48. Thank you for posting this, there seems to be a dedicated contingent
here whose pom poms waving is not well disguised attacks against Democrats. That post you referenced and corrected was out right propaganda and Trump level lying.
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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 05:18 PM
Starry Messenger (32,335 posts)
50. k&r
Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)
Tue May 16, 2017, 05:21 PM
riversedge (65,484 posts)
51. I heard her this morning. Pelosi said she wanted the facts. I agree. In addition, while
impeachment is my preferred route, she is right. We really need some substance-all the facts. We are fighting the RW news, the Repugs in Congress just as a start.
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