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G_j

(40,366 posts)
Tue May 16, 2017, 11:02 AM May 2017

Historian who called every election since 1984 blasts media for giving Mike Pences lies a pass

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/historian-who-accurately-called-every-election-since-1984-blasts-the-media-for-giving-mike-pences-lies-a-pass/

historian who has accurately predicted every presidential election since 1984 — including Donald Trump — believes the 45th president will not be able to finish his four-year term.

Allan Lichtman, a history professor at American University, told CBC that Trump’s decision to fire FBI director James Comey could be considered grounds for impeachment — although he’s not sure Vice President Mike Pence would take Trump’s place.

“The media has given Mike Pence a huge pass,” Licthman said. “He lied about Gen. (Mike) Flynn, he lied about the reasons why Comey was fired, and the media says he was misled. We don’t know that he was misled, that’s a supposition on the part of the media. In fact, maybe he was part of this whole operation right from the start, and maybe he’s in it as deeply as Donald Trump — we do not know, and an impeachment investigation needs to look at Mr. Pence, as well.”

He noted that Comey was fired one day after former acting attorney general Sally Yates’ testified before Congress, and the president admitted the FBI director’s dismissal was related to the Russia investigation.

“That’s at least borderline obstruction of justice,” Lichtman said. “Add to that the fact that the White House pretty transparently conspired earlier with Rep. (Devin) Nunes to derail the House investigation into possible Russian collusion. Putting it all together, and you’ve got a probable cause case for obstruction of justice — and there’s only one way of dealing with that, constitutionally.”

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Historian who called every election since 1984 blasts media for giving Mike Pences lies a pass (Original Post) G_j May 2017 OP
He was proven wrong in 2016. Then Comey intervened at the last minute to rig the election. (eom) StevieM May 2017 #1
Point is, Pence deserves his own impeachment FakeNoose May 2017 #2
exactly right nt G_j May 2017 #3
Yup. So then Paul Ryan will become president. Nitram May 2017 #5
He's dirty too - Nope to Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell FakeNoose May 2017 #6
Good malaise May 2017 #4
Borderline? nt tblue37 May 2017 #7

FakeNoose

(32,633 posts)
2. Point is, Pence deserves his own impeachment
Tue May 16, 2017, 11:11 AM
May 2017

Lichtman has been following events closely enough and we have reason to trust his opinion.
He's saying neither Trump nor Pence deserve to be in the White House.

So let's get this ball rolling, and have a double impeachment party.

Nitram

(22,791 posts)
5. Yup. So then Paul Ryan will become president.
Tue May 16, 2017, 11:50 AM
May 2017

Either way, whoever replaces Trump will have no credibility and little support. If we can take both houses in 2018 following an impeachment or resignation, the GOP president will be a lame duck from day one.

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