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factfinder_77

(841 posts)
Wed May 17, 2017, 04:09 AM May 2017

GOP fears Trump will take the Republican Party down with him

Republicans have grown accustomed to Trump's tumult, tending to downplay it because the president has weathered past challenges that might have sunk conventional politicians. But this is different, lawmakers and GOP strategists conceded Tuesday, in interviews with the Washington Examiner.

"You have this White House that is lurching from crisis to crisis, the image is of disarray – they can't get their hands around the basic day-to-day agenda, and define the progress they have made" Republican pollster David Winston said. "One of the things that the president has is the bully pulpit; the bully pulpit lets you drive the agenda and these crises haven't let the White House effectively get there."

"This is concerning and alarming," Rep. Charlie Dent, R-Pa., said flatly. "We're going to have to confront these issues as a Congress."

Republicans see red flags because foreign policy and national security are at the center of the crises that have engulfed Trump over the past seven days.

Concerns about Trump's fitness to serve as commander-in-chief has been a weak spot with independents and GOP voters outside of his loyal base. These voters form the backbone of the coalition that elected the president and Republican majorities in the House and Senate in November.



An adviser to a Republican being recruited for a marquee congressional race in 2018 said the president's behavior was concerning. "I'd be a fool if I said it wasn't causing us at least a little heartburn," this individual said. "I mean, seriously, when is this shit going to stop?"

A Republican lobbyist who is actively raising money for the party said the complaints have been piling up from donors. They don't think that the problem is media persecution or Democratic obstruction, they think the problem is the president.

"People are feeling – it's disgust, it's shame, it's you name it, all of the above," the lobbyist said. Asked for examples of the complaints fielded, the lobbyist added: "When is this going to end? How can we recover? These are clowns.



http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gop-fears-trump-will-take-the-republican-party-down-with-him/article/2623311
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GOP fears Trump will take the Republican Party down with him (Original Post) factfinder_77 May 2017 OP
Well, I certainly hope so. N/T CottonBear May 2017 #1
Good, it's hitting them in the bank accounts... WePurrsevere May 2017 #2
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Except the problem is the pubs...Trump couldnt last if they stopped supporting him. Amaryllis May 2017 #14
Oh, I agree the 'Cons have plenty of... WePurrsevere May 2017 #15
They are responsible for taking their own party down for watching corruption & doing nothing luvMIdog May 2017 #4
Breaking: "These are clowns." lindysalsagal May 2017 #5
Frightening, as only clowns can be, but w/o any comedy or juggling skills hatrack May 2017 #20
Don't look for Trump to be impeached OldRedneck May 2017 #6
He'll resign. Before that the Rs will want to impeach. Before that he'll become toxic in public mind Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #8
They will feel disapproval of Trump in 2018 elections though. Yes, they may try to do outrageous anneboleyn May 2017 #17
Sadly, you're spot on. Dulcinea May 2017 #24
Cool I hope they go down in flames TEB May 2017 #7
this has me licking my chops. how many dems will be unopposed in 18? mopinko May 2017 #9
and well he should. spanone May 2017 #10
I think the potential for that was quite obvious in the primaries. tanyev May 2017 #11
To be fair, a lot of establishment Republicans opposed him pre-convention Jim Lane May 2017 #19
That chicken is fuckin tethered. JTFrog May 2017 #12
Trump is the Republican party. nt geek tragedy May 2017 #13
Hasten the day! MineralMan May 2017 #18
That would be great. Take them down before they take the country down. Vinca May 2017 #21
If the GOP doesn't support him and he goes down, it will be scorched earth. He'll expose behind the wiggs May 2017 #22

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
2. Good, it's hitting them in the bank accounts...
Wed May 17, 2017, 05:48 AM
May 2017

And I love that most R donors aren't seeing the problem as what the GOP and Trump are inaccurately trying to push. They see the problem being at least partially what it actually is, TRUMP.

A Republican lobbyist who is actively raising money for the party said the complaints have been piling up from donors. They don't think that the problem is media persecution or Democratic obstruction, they think the problem is the president.

"People are feeling – it's disgust, it's shame, it's you name it, all of the above," the lobbyist said.


WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
15. Oh, I agree the 'Cons have plenty of...
Wed May 17, 2017, 11:08 AM
May 2017

'responsibility' in how this hot mess is going but I won't hold my breath waiting for them to accept any fault.

The party of supposed 'personal responsibility' means that it's everyone else's responsibility except for theirs... Pfft!

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
6. Don't look for Trump to be impeached
Wed May 17, 2017, 06:25 AM
May 2017

As much as I'd love to see Trump led out of the White House in an orange jump suit, handcuffs, and leg irons, it's not gonna happen. He'll be here for four years and he'll run for re-election in 2020. Because:

1. The Republicans know he'll sign anything they put in front of him and they are hell-bent on repealing the 20th Century -- destroy EPA, CFPB; repeal Dodd-Frank and ACA; restrict voting to white men who own property; ban Muslims; deport Hispanics; load taxes onto the middle class while giving the wealthiest 1% all the breaks possible.

2. The Republican base loves him. His overall approval may be in the toilet but among the knuckle-draggers and mouth-breathers who voted for him, he's at 80 percent positive. They don't give a rat's ass about Russia, money laundering, or nepotism. Just so he keeps out the Muslims, kicks out the Mexicans, and puts reporters in jail.

3. The economy will help him. Obama left the economy in decent shape and it's likely to improve under Trump. Never mind his promises that will never happen -- coal mining jobs, jobs come back from overseas, and the like -- as long as most people are working they don't care about anything else.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,986 posts)
8. He'll resign. Before that the Rs will want to impeach. Before that he'll become toxic in public mind
Wed May 17, 2017, 06:58 AM
May 2017

tRump is fast approaching the point where he is more toxic to Republicon election needs in 2018 and beyond than he is useful to them.

This is the last year of the tRump Minority Presidency.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
17. They will feel disapproval of Trump in 2018 elections though. Yes, they may try to do outrageous
Wed May 17, 2017, 12:07 PM
May 2017

things with Medicare and so on but they obviously risk their own seats at that point as has happened to both parties many times before. Trump is also a historically unpopular president, and that is before he actually pushes hard for a project or bill or needs troops for a war.

mopinko

(70,067 posts)
9. this has me licking my chops. how many dems will be unopposed in 18?
Wed May 17, 2017, 08:24 AM
May 2017

if the money dries up, how many cd's will have no one on their ticket?


bwahahahahahaaaa.

tanyev

(42,540 posts)
11. I think the potential for that was quite obvious in the primaries.
Wed May 17, 2017, 08:28 AM
May 2017

They should have been looking for a way to take him down then.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
19. To be fair, a lot of establishment Republicans opposed him pre-convention
Wed May 17, 2017, 01:22 PM
May 2017

During the nomination fight, he came in for considerable intra-party criticism. As just one example, don't forget that National Review devoted an entire issue to slamming him.

Of course, if there's one thing that Republicans keep in mind, it's not to kick own goals. Quite a few of them who said during the primaries that he was unfit to be President went on to endorse him in the general election.

wiggs

(7,811 posts)
22. If the GOP doesn't support him and he goes down, it will be scorched earth. He'll expose behind the
Wed May 17, 2017, 01:33 PM
May 2017

scenes misdeeds, behind the scenes comments, skeletons, secrets, and more. He'll sue for billions. He'll not go down without being able to claim some win or some revenge.

Dems won't be the targets, it will be those on his party 'team' who threw him under the bus.

Of course, it has been a theory by several here that before he goes down in flames infamously, he will take a huge secret 'buy out' by gop donors to step down for the good of the country (those dems are traitors, won't leave me alone! And I gave up so much to try to make america great again!!) and allow Pence to step in. This still seems valid to me, unless Pence, Ryan, and McConnell are headed to indictment too...in which case everyone will go to the mats to keep DT in office.

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