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Thu May 18, 2017, 07:38 AM

Hypothetical....If Trump submits his resignation, will President Pence give him a full Pardon?

If so, then does the truth seeking end? What say you folks!

Trumps speech at the Coast Guard yesterday had a feeling of uneasiness and surrender.

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Reply Hypothetical....If Trump submits his resignation, will President Pence give him a full Pardon? (Original post)
FarPoint May 2017 OP
avebury May 2017 #1
metalbot May 2017 #14
GBizzle May 2017 #26
Turbineguy May 2017 #2
MoonRiver May 2017 #8
JustAnotherGen May 2017 #3
FarPoint May 2017 #7
Madam45for2923 May 2017 #4
Foamfollower May 2017 #5
FarPoint May 2017 #10
Madam45for2923 May 2017 #13
FarPoint May 2017 #11
beachbum bob May 2017 #6
FarPoint May 2017 #9
CK_John May 2017 #12
Madam45for2923 May 2017 #15
FarPoint May 2017 #16
KingCharlemagne May 2017 #17
The Blue Flower May 2017 #18
FarPoint May 2017 #19
oberliner May 2017 #20
FarPoint May 2017 #23
oberliner May 2017 #24
FarPoint May 2017 #25
mitch96 May 2017 #21
Shrek May 2017 #22
Agschmid May 2017 #27
hamsterjill May 2017 #28
Greybnk48 May 2017 #29
JTFrog May 2017 #30
unblock May 2017 #31
Wounded Bear May 2017 #32
MineralMan May 2017 #33

Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Thu May 18, 2017, 07:43 AM

1. Pence may have to go with him.

He knew about Flynn since he headed up the Transition Team.

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Response to avebury (Reply #1)

Thu May 18, 2017, 08:08 AM

14. They'll put together a line of pardons

Trump pardons Flynn, Manafort, Stone. Trump resigns. Pence pardons Trump. Pence resigns. President Ryan pardons Pence.

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Response to metalbot (Reply #14)

Thu May 18, 2017, 10:42 AM

26. Who pardon's Ryan? Looking like he's involved in this as well.

 

President Hatch sounded insane a week ago. It sounds a lot less insane right now.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Thu May 18, 2017, 07:43 AM

2. I don't see Pence being too successful

overseas. He's a serial liar. But he's won't push The Button unless God tells him to.

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #2)

Thu May 18, 2017, 07:55 AM

8. Uh, that is not very reassuring!

Jesus made me do it!

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Thu May 18, 2017, 07:45 AM

3. Not for charges by

NY State.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #3)

Thu May 18, 2017, 07:54 AM

7. My fingers are crossed there...

I see a President Pence by Christmas...then a " let's give him a chance" cry will emerge to bolster the GOP for November 2018.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Thu May 18, 2017, 07:48 AM

4. I think people cannot be pardoned until after they are convicted/sentenced?

 

but idrk.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #4)

Thu May 18, 2017, 07:50 AM

5. Ford pardoned Nixon.

 

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Response to Foamfollower (Reply #5)

Thu May 18, 2017, 07:56 AM

10. Yes he did..

Thus, the exploration of this happening with Trump.

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Response to Foamfollower (Reply #5)

Thu May 18, 2017, 08:08 AM

13. Ah yes! Never mind my point then.

 

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #4)

Thu May 18, 2017, 07:58 AM

11. That is an important aspect..

Let's see if we can validate the scenario. I don't know the rules.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Thu May 18, 2017, 07:51 AM

6. pence would be impeached too if allegations of electioneering by Russia is proven out and hopefully

 

all would be charged with treason....

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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #6)

Thu May 18, 2017, 07:55 AM

9. My hopes too...

I'm feeling the GOP had already plotted this strategy out...

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Thu May 18, 2017, 08:00 AM

12. IMO, Pence would not have been picked unless he gave Trump a signed pardon without a date.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Thu May 18, 2017, 08:26 AM

15. FYI: Pres. Obama could not pardon Steven Avery for State level crimes

 

White House Responds to Petition for Steven Avery of 'Making a Murderer'

The White House has responded to a petition asking President Obama to pardon Steven Avery -- the subject of the Netflix show "Making a Murderer" -- along with Brendan Dassey, who were both convicted of murdering photographer Teresa Halbach in 2005.

More than 125,000 have signed the petition, exceeding the 100,000 needed to trigger a response.

However, because Avery and Dassey were convicted in state criminal court, the president does not have the power to pardon them, the White House said.

"A pardon in this case would need to be issued at the state level by the appropriate authorities," a representative for the White House wrote online. "While this case is out of the Administration's purview, President Obama is committed to restoring the sense of fairness at the heart of our justice system."

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/white-house-responds-petition-steven-avery-making-murderer/story?id=36153350

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Reply #15)

Thu May 18, 2017, 08:27 AM

16. Ahhhh

Excellent...thank you.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Thu May 18, 2017, 08:30 AM

17. Historians will NEVER stop seeking the truth. But the quest for "justice" would

 

probably end with the issuance of a full pardon.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Thu May 18, 2017, 08:34 AM

18. Pence is equally guilty--he'll go down, too

He also knew about the Russian connection during the campaign.

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Response to The Blue Flower (Reply #18)

Thu May 18, 2017, 08:46 AM

19. It is a dream for me that none of these thugs escape Mueller.

I think we will have a long list extending into the GOP Congress...but...some will slip through...

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Thu May 18, 2017, 08:51 AM

20. He will never resign

 

No chance.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #20)

Thu May 18, 2017, 10:22 AM

23. I don't think tRump can endure the upcoming stress...

When his bullshit jargon manipulation falls on deaf ears...he will just stay in his head but that space is very limited.

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #23)

Thu May 18, 2017, 10:24 AM

24. He has Republicans working interference for him

 

And Fox News morning and evening telling him what he wants to hear.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #24)

Thu May 18, 2017, 10:40 AM

25. That may not be enough for him...

Too much for me and you of course.. but he's not prepared for what is to come...his ongoing " I'm a victim" will soon be accepted as just what it is.. shameless empty whining...more leaks will come out to discredit his whining.... frustrated public base will follow.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Thu May 18, 2017, 09:12 AM

21. So what are the chances of having another election

If the "gang of three" (tRumpPenceRyan) are ousted??
m

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Response to mitch96 (Reply #21)

Thu May 18, 2017, 09:16 AM

22. There will be another election

In 2020.

Until then the Presidential Succession Act is the controlling law.

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Response to mitch96 (Reply #21)

Thu May 18, 2017, 10:42 AM

27. ...

A) This won't happen.
B) Succession law covers this.

I wish people would do a reality check.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Thu May 18, 2017, 10:47 AM

28. If Trump resigns, is he any use to Putin any longer?

THAT would be MY fear if I were Trump.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Thu May 18, 2017, 10:47 AM

29. I predict Pence will never be President, no matter what.

Joy Reid proved he lied about his involvement in the Flynn scandal and he's complicit in all of it. Pence and maybe scores more Repukes, will go down by the time this is laid bare.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Thu May 18, 2017, 10:50 AM

30. President Hatch might.

 

I hate how deep this fucking rabbit hole is.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Thu May 18, 2017, 10:50 AM

31. their legitimacy is linked, so pardoning him would amount to obstruction of justice, which means

absolutely, he will grant a full pardon.

no doubt about it.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Thu May 18, 2017, 10:51 AM

32. History says, if he does, it'll be the end of his career...

Ford pardoned Nixon, and lost the next election.

Pence is worse than Trump in many ways. At least Trump isn't an ideologue. Pence actually believes the bullshit he spews.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Thu May 18, 2017, 10:56 AM

33. Probably. There is precedent for it.

Deals would be made, however, before such a thing happened. Things like silence about Pence, to start with.

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