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pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
Thu May 18, 2017, 08:55 PM May 2017

Alan Dershowitz strongly opposes the appointment of Mueller as special counsel.

Last edited Fri May 19, 2017, 06:21 PM - Edit history (1)

So we know it is a good thing.



He's been a blowhard, just looking for attention, for years. And now he is pre-judging DT's innocence.. Beyond saying he's innocent till proven guilty, he's saying it's UNLIKELY that DT will be found guilty. And he has no basis for saying that.

And remember, this "civil libertarian" criticized the American media for not going after Amanda Knox, saying that there was a mountain of evidence against her. The highest court in Italy said there was NO credible evidence against her. And after 8 years of trials and 4 years in prison, they said she was definitively innocent.

But Alan attacked Amanda Knox, while he's supporting DT. Some civil libertarian.

ON EDIT: If anyone else is wondering why I posted a link to Fox, it's because that's where Alan Dershowitz chose to publish this opinion piece.


http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/05/18/dershowitz-dont-glorify-special-counsel.html

By Alan Dershowitz Published May 18, 2017 Fox News

To be criminal there must be admissible evidence that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that a statutory crime has been committed. It is unlikely that such a conclusion will be reached by the special counsel with regard to President Trump or anyone currently in his administration. It is possible that he may find criminal conduct on the part of General Flynn, but even that is unlikely. But even if Flynn were to be indicted it is certainly possible that Trump would pardon him.

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Alan Dershowitz strongly opposes the appointment of Mueller as special counsel. (Original Post) pnwmom May 2017 OP
I can't stand him. I change the channel when he is on! JoeOtterbein May 2017 #1
"Don't glorify special council".. Is that what he's calling it.. Cha May 2017 #2
Dershowitz is attempting to interview for the job of defending Trump over the airwaves virtualobserver May 2017 #3
He's trying so hard. dalton99a May 2017 #5
He Did That With OJ Trial Too, Didn't He? SoCalMusicLover May 2017 #26
He's a has been titaniumsalute May 2017 #4
well i guess there's no point in ever investigating any administration. unblock May 2017 #6
What I'd expect from him! 50 Shades Of Blue May 2017 #7
Oh for, god sake Alan. This is the FIRST action I've heard both Dems & Pubs agreeing on in YEARS! napi21 May 2017 #8
He used to be a liberal, years ago. What happened? Alice11111 May 2017 #9
He lost his way some years ago. elleng May 2017 #13
Dershowitz has interesting habits Jacquette May 2017 #17
I thought there might be a connection too, as DT and Alice11111 May 2017 #18
Exonerated or not there's too much smoke Jacquette May 2017 #20
For sure Alice11111 May 2017 #23
Of course he would. He can't stand the fact that anyone should get any more smirkymonkey May 2017 #10
Oh well! GoCubsGo May 2017 #11
Exactly, elleng May 2017 #12
He & Bennett, Bill Clinton's lawyer, seem to be signaling. I'm available & you need me. Alice11111 May 2017 #19
He is a complete asshole adigal May 2017 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author adigal May 2017 #15
Post removed Post removed May 2017 #16
The guy became a right wing asshat...some years ago...I turn the TV off when he shows up. Demsrule86 May 2017 #21
I thought he'd given up pimping for the SCOTUS seat. Guess not. Vinca May 2017 #22
He is going nuts! Obstruction of Justice happened according toe Comey Quixote1818 May 2017 #24
Alan Dershowitz can go screw himself to a toilet head. ananda May 2017 #25
Yeah, Doucheowitz sold his soul a long time ago... WoonTars May 2017 #27
Yeah, I believe he's still Emeritus there. n/t pnwmom May 2017 #28
Man bites dog is always a story DefenseLawyer May 2017 #29
DOES he, now? BFD. WinkyDink May 2017 #30
He was once accuse of lunatica May 2017 #31
You are linking to Fox News? oberliner May 2017 #32
Yes, I am. It is my source because it is where ALAN DERSCHOWITZ pnwmom May 2017 #33

unblock

(52,202 posts)
6. well i guess there's no point in ever investigating any administration.
Thu May 18, 2017, 09:00 PM
May 2017

the president might pardon them, so what's the point in knowing the truth?

napi21

(45,806 posts)
8. Oh for, god sake Alan. This is the FIRST action I've heard both Dems & Pubs agreeing on in YEARS!
Thu May 18, 2017, 09:03 PM
May 2017

I was stunned when his appointment was announced and members from both parties had praise for it. That was the very few good things that happened in a very long time.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
9. He used to be a liberal, years ago. What happened?
Thu May 18, 2017, 09:04 PM
May 2017

Why is he so supportive and defensive of DT?
Maybe he's on the payroll as well.
Anything is possible now.
Conflicts of interest don't matter.
PC and manners are long gone.
Social and ethical boundaries are a joke.

 

Jacquette

(152 posts)
17. Dershowitz has interesting habits
Thu May 18, 2017, 10:02 PM
May 2017

that were....discovered. Thus, his about face on everything he ever believed in. Don't ask because I'm not saying here, I don't fk around with lawyers even on a msg board.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
18. I thought there might be a connection too, as DT and
Fri May 19, 2017, 12:30 AM
May 2017

Others were friends of friends, or friends in that scandle.
I didn't want to say it, as I don't know much about it. I do know that Dershowitz was evidently exonerated. I'm a lawyer, mostly not practicing now. I did not know that was his turning point, but it makes me very suspicious.

However, I'm Not scared of him. I filed a complaint against AG Sessions, which was a bit scary, given his resources, general government indemnification, and my limited resources. As someone said, you just get used to being hated by a lot of people, who have no idea what the real story is, and you cannot tell them, because of the many rules that bind lawyers.

Now, I'm wondering if he had to switch sides to save his butt. Unconscionable.

 

Jacquette

(152 posts)
20. Exonerated or not there's too much smoke
Fri May 19, 2017, 01:41 AM
May 2017

out there re Dershowitz and his ways, I believe it. Also the friends of friends leads to some shall we say...interesting connections.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. Of course he would. He can't stand the fact that anyone should get any more
Thu May 18, 2017, 09:08 PM
May 2017

attention that he would for their legal prowess. I think Dershowitz is just desperate for recognition and perhaps getting a little touch of dementia as well.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
12. Exactly,
Thu May 18, 2017, 09:18 PM
May 2017

a VERY good thing! It's a gig dershowitz wants like crazy. Just let him try to tell trump to not do certain things, like TALK. TWEET. LIE!

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
19. He & Bennett, Bill Clinton's lawyer, seem to be signaling. I'm available & you need me.
Fri May 19, 2017, 12:36 AM
May 2017

I find it disgusting.

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Quixote1818

(28,929 posts)
24. He is going nuts! Obstruction of Justice happened according toe Comey
Fri May 19, 2017, 03:10 PM
May 2017

what more does this Ass-hat want?

WoonTars

(694 posts)
27. Yeah, Doucheowitz sold his soul a long time ago...
Fri May 19, 2017, 04:28 PM
May 2017

...pretty safe bet that means Mueller's appointment was a good thing. BTW, did you know he taught at Haaaaaavard?

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
29. Man bites dog is always a story
Fri May 19, 2017, 04:47 PM
May 2017

At this point there are any number of people who will put on television to give solid legal analysis before he will. Dershowitz knows he can get on tv by being the counterpoint that cable news always feels they need. This, some might say, makes one a publicity seeking shill.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
31. He was once accuse of
Fri May 19, 2017, 04:51 PM
May 2017

co-raping a girl with Trump.

I have no idea if it's true or not but he took great umbrage. For some reason every time I see him I remember that.

Read paragraph # 8

https://www.thenation.com/article/the-trump-allegations-as-jane-doe-breaks-her-silence-will-the-media/

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
32. You are linking to Fox News?
Fri May 19, 2017, 04:54 PM
May 2017

That is your source?

On CNN, he said he would've preferred "a special investigative committee" so that everything could be out in the open rather than secret.

Is that not a reasonable position?

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
33. Yes, I am. It is my source because it is where ALAN DERSCHOWITZ
Fri May 19, 2017, 06:19 PM
May 2017

published his opinion piece.

He also says that he doesn't think we need a prosecutor because he doubts any actual crimes were involved -- and that is NOT a reasonable position.

What would be reasonable is if he advocated for BOTH an independent commission and the Mueller investigation -- as many are suggesting. But he went so far in his interviews to say that he doesn't believe in having Grand Juries -- at all.

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