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justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
Fri May 19, 2017, 12:39 PM May 2017

Can someone explain why this is a "massive, massive red flag?"







"WASHINGTON (AP) — Donald Trump's attorneys originally wanted him to submit an updated financial disclosure without certifying the information as true, according to correspondence with the Office of Government Ethics.

Attorney Sheri Dillon said she saw no need for Trump to sign his 2016 personal financial disclosure because he is filing voluntarily this year. But OGE director Walter Shaub said his office would only work with Dillon if she agreed to follow the typical process of having Trump make the certification. That is standard practice for the thousands of financial disclosure forms OGE processes each year.

The Associated Press obtained the letters under a Freedom of Information Act request."
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Can someone explain why this is a "massive, massive red flag?" (Original Post) justiceischeap May 2017 OP
Schmergury of Law, I schmuppose. nt Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #1
Signing a false financial statement as "accurate"... Wounded Bear May 2017 #2
pretty much admitting his financial disclosure forms are knowingly inaccurate unblock May 2017 #3
Pretty clear the attorneys did not want him to be responsible for the contents. Egnever May 2017 #4
uhh Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #5
A. Makes him look guilty if something B. Having worked in auditing underpants May 2017 #6
Two ways to look at it. NCTraveler May 2017 #7
As an attorney, this is a nothingburger to me. geek tragedy May 2017 #8
Thanks! nt justiceischeap May 2017 #11
If he signs, it's an official document subjecting him to the legal punishment if it's false. haele May 2017 #9
Thanks! nt justiceischeap May 2017 #10
 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
4. Pretty clear the attorneys did not want him to be responsible for the contents.
Fri May 19, 2017, 12:42 PM
May 2017

now he is on record saying it is true and accurate and if it turns out it is not he has again put himself into a compromised position he did not need to.

underpants

(182,603 posts)
6. A. Makes him look guilty if something B. Having worked in auditing
Fri May 19, 2017, 12:44 PM
May 2017

if an audit client tells you these aren't the "real books" clearly something is wrong.

It's like these supposedly well healed super educated in what is the WH staff never heard two very common sayings.

If you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to worry about.
and
That's my story and I'm sticking with it - get one message regardless of how little sense it makes and stay on it. Hammer it home.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
7. Two ways to look at it.
Fri May 19, 2017, 12:44 PM
May 2017

1) It was an unnecessary risk in the eyes of his attorney. Risk mitigation even when nothing wrong is seen.
2) It's know that doing so is an act of perjury.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
8. As an attorney, this is a nothingburger to me.
Fri May 19, 2017, 12:45 PM
May 2017

A lawyers' job is to eliminate/minimize sources of legal exposure to the client. If a client doesn't have to do something that involves potential legal exposure, the lawyer will try to get them out of it.

haele

(12,640 posts)
9. If he signs, it's an official document subjecting him to the legal punishment if it's false.
Fri May 19, 2017, 12:45 PM
May 2017

If he doesn't sign it, it's as legally binding as a broach, or a hat, or an origami pterodactyl.

On edit - it's a red flag because he's acknowledging he's supposed to sign it as a true representation of his financial state, but because there's all sorts of incriminating and disqualifying crap in his background, he'd be setting himself up for RICO charges and prison if he did sign it.

Haele

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