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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGOP REPS FEEL UNSAFE - Complaining About Uncivility. - MSN - The Hill.
GOP representatives complaining about threats and incivility regarding debate and vote over AHCA. The acrimony over health care seems to be increasing. And the deafness of the GOP over taking away health care from every American has them bristling.
WHAT THE FUCK DO THESE GOONS THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THEY SAY FUCK YOU WE PLAN TO KILL THE SYSTEM AND YOUR FAMILY AS WELL. Sabotaging the ACA with their 'DEATH SENTENCE BILL' will screw every American.
Now I am sorry that I am shouting. But every day we hear how the GOP is determined to CRASH the health care system so they can create a system that will even screw people who have insurance now. They plan to create a national crisis and national emergency over their ideology.
They want to crash even Medicare, veterans care and even regular care so they can PRIVATIZE AND MARKETIZE IT in their image. That means thousands of people will die early and who know how many will go bankrupt. Under their system very few PRIVILEGED few will have coverage or care.
THEY VIEW WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AS A 'MILD' DISAGREEMENT OVER POLICY. They are still refusing to listen and still intend to inflict pain and death on American citizens to placate billionaires.
Breathing is a privilege. Life is a privilege.
Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)Girard442
(6,066 posts)Haven't you heard? If the angry crowds are armed to the teeth, it'll be *safer*.
Demtexan
(1,588 posts)Pissed off voters could be anywhere at anytime.
The republicans in congress have put a target on themselves.
I guess bullet proof vests might be needed.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,730 posts)Get informed. Get involved in your local Democratic party headquarters. Call your Representatives in DC. Write letters to the Editors of your local papers. . Show up at Town Halls. March when called to. When GOP Representatives notice that people are paying attention to the issues, they willl either panic or do the right thing.
We need to elect more Democrats no mstter thr efforts in the states to suppress our vote or gerrymander the districts.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)Yet you still wonder what will it take for them to listen. Right now the signals from Congress and Trump are that they will demolish the system entirely rather than fix it. They simply do not believe you should get help if you have a heart attack if you don't have $1000 bills in your pocket . It is that simple.
Plus they believe that if you are not white you should trade yourself or go to a witch doctor. Non white lives or poor lives don't matter.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)to vote, with no loopholes. Every church should use their buses to get their members to acquire the necessary paperwork in place. Wisconsin prevented thousands from voting by declaring their I.D.'s inadequate. The fight starts NOW. Get all voters legally registered. The ONLY thing we can do is get the gop out of power.
murielm99
(30,717 posts)They should be driving them to places where they can get "adequate" I.D.s right now. The voter registration drives should never end.
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)organize and vote them out a threat? Because I would make that threat.
murielm99
(30,717 posts)That is why they need to be voted out of office,
drmeow
(5,012 posts)I will make sure you do not win reelection - to these power hungry assholes that is a major threat.
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)They should be afraid. Especially when telling constituents, "I've exempted myself from the law that may cause your death."
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)constituents and believe me, the conservatives are on the losing side big time. The represent corporate special interest and that is no longer in line with american familes and workers
LBM20
(1,580 posts)This Republican party isn't "conservative." It is RIGHT WING and that must be said a million times. We must stop saying "conservative." We must stop saying "fight back" and start saying "FIGHT FORWARD." We need to do a better job using verbal framing. Republicans are right wing, radical, and reactionary, and we must superglue them to these frames.
calimary
(81,125 posts)MESSAGING. YES. ABSOLUTELY.
Sorry to shout, but I don't know how else to make it clear that this is our biggest problem! MESSAGING!!! As superficial as it seems and feels, we've got to do that better.
And make damn sure we vote, and we make sure everybody we know votes. There are MORE of us than there are of that other tribe. We can turn this around in 2018 if only we all get out there and vote!
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)These people are ignorant racists who want to punish non white people and taking away healthcare is one way to do that.
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)Cosmocat
(14,559 posts)For 8 years these assholes did their cute little "second amendment solution" tripe hoping to get some loon just on the edge nudged over to do something horrible ...
Then, the constituents they, in theory, should be serving get backed into a corner and speak out, and they pout around about it.
teezy
(269 posts)If they're scared now, imagine how scared they'll be when their own supporters start losing loved ones from this health care bill and showing up at town halls, angrier than ever that they've been lied to (when they actually figure it out). THOSE are the people who are armed to the teeth and who they should be worried about. It isn't hard to imagine what could happen when you sign a bill that potentially sends millions to an early and preventable death. Of course there's going to be a massive wave of anger. No matter how ardent a Trump supporter a person is, watching their families die and having no access to care themselves will make them turn. When it starts to actually affect THEM, it'll be ugly. The GOP is a flock of vultures, so what did they actually think would happen?
How can they cry about civil unrest that they're causing?
mdbl
(4,973 posts)for sure who did this to them. We can't let the rightwing shit media control this narrative.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)This AHCA is a serious "death sentence" for hundreds of thousand American in the longer term. If we were losing 50,000 soldiers a year right now there would be public mayhem.
Dorn
(523 posts)How can any of the "spiritual" representatives agree that killing thousands of USA citizens is aligned with their spiritual beliefs?
Dorn
(523 posts)This is the basis of the big lie; tell a lie, repeat the lie, when called on it say it wasn't your fault. "I miss informed, I just want to do what is right for country"
What
a
Pile
of
Stinking
Multi-animal
Excrement
!
And my favorite quote from 30 Rock adapted for this situation::
Good Lord Representative Walberg your breath, when did you find time to eat a diaper you found on a Lake Michigan beach ?!
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)I donated $25 to Freedom From Religion. Maybe people should put money into this organization instead of a collection plate. "Love thy neighbor"! What a joke.
WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)This isn't just a 'mild disagreement'. This is about the Republican Party selling the 99% down the river, threatening the basic rights and literally the very lives of millions of Americans. We tend to get more than just a bit testy about that.
lastlib
(23,163 posts)...to give it, take it away, and fuck you over in between. That's what it boils down to.
tiptonic
(765 posts)Sounds like their 'population control' plan to me. They're against abortion, so they can watch u die, a slow, painful death in poverty. Just wondering.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)History doesn't repeat itself, but it can often rhyme.
dalton99a
(81,404 posts)still_one
(92,061 posts)representative in Kentucky, it appears in his district most of his constituents still support trump in two out of three of the town halls he held:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/a-gop-congressman-from-kentucky-wonders-is-this-trump-thing-sustainable/2017/05/20/1cbd5374-3c16-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_kentuckyhome-830pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
I sure wouldn't be lulled into a false sense of complacency because the town halls presented through the national media showed concern, worry, anger, and fear about their future.
A big part of that disconnect is due to the fact that most of those people in those red districts that went for trump, their source for news is fox, not CNN or MSNBC. I am convinced that the only thing that will move people who voted for trump is if there personal situation is adversely affected by his policies, and that will happen only after the damage has been inflicted on them.
While Gallop's daily tracking poll shows 56% disapprove of trump's job performance, while 37% approve, because of redistricting, and not unlike the electoral college, 2018 is an uphill fight.
I think in states in blue states like California we have some real opportunities to take back republican districts in 2018, and I would like to believe that in purple states, if we are able to get people to turnout in 2018 to vote, we have a fair chance to take back Congress.
I am not that optimistic that impeachment will happen with a republican congress. The best we can hope for there is that it delays the brutal, inhuman, and regressive republican agenda. The only thing that can stop this nightmare is 2018
n2doc
(47,953 posts)So of course it is still a stronghold. And you are correct, they get their propaganda from RW hate radio and Fox. So they won't be changing until those sources change.
still_one
(92,061 posts)Demtexan
(1,588 posts)Right now they have some kind insurance.
They are thinking it will only hurt the other people who they hate.
This will hit home really fast.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)Yes, maybe some of their nearest relatives will get the idea, but the republicans are betting that those who suffer will be too busy dealing with that to vote and organize a resistance to them.
Demtexan
(1,588 posts)His voters need to be hit by a 2x4 first.
mdbl
(4,973 posts)I don't think that logic will work in their favor.
watoos
(7,142 posts)the insurer rebates which will crash Obamacare which he will then claim verifies what he has been saying, that Obamacare is self destructing and his base will believe him.
tblue37
(65,227 posts)Last edited Sun May 21, 2017, 07:31 PM - Edit history (1)
to those who have jobs? She said that she has seen it first hand, because she has a good job that gives her health insurance.
****** "As a government employee, I'm granted health care and I see firsthand that for one to have health care, you need to have jobs," the 25-year-old shared. *****
Later in the competition, she also was asked what she considers feminism to be and whether she considers herself a feminist. McCullough said she likes to "transpose" the word feminism to "equalism."
That is the kind of idiocy we have to deal with. The woman is a scientist with The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission. Our STEM education focus needs to make room for the humanities and for civic education, because we keep getting stupid-smarts, people who can do math and science but who can't think their way out of a wet paper bag in any other field of thought, especially ethics, philosophy, history, and civics. (That is why so many tech geeks are libertarians.)
n2doc
(47,953 posts)They can't imagine how anyone could possibly not have a job, unless they are lazy. Absolutely no empathy either. They live in a very sheltered world.
The STEM academic fields are so desperate for minority students that if someone smart like her shows up and applies, the red carpet is rolled out- scholarships, fellowships, targeted awards, etc., etc. It is not a bad thing but it can give one the impression that it is 'easy' to be a scientist. Again, no empathy required.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)I don't agree with violence or showing up to their homes but they've created this mess by trying to push policy/legislation that the majority of this country don't want to please their high-dollar donors and lobbyists.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)It'd be nice if they'd quit being a bunch of cry babies. Unfortunately, their safe space appears to be the capital building in Washington.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)Leghorn21
(13,523 posts)as well.
You want "Threats and uncivility"? Try this, goopers, and then stfu:
Source: Houston Chronicle
During a town hall meeting Saturday, Congressman Al Green played recordings of threatening voicemail messages left for him after he demanded the impeachment of President Donald Trump on the House floor earlier this week.
"You'll be hanging from a tree," one caller said.
The calls use graphic racial slurs, some calling Green the n-word. "You ain't going to impeach nobody. Try it and we will lynch all of you," the caller said.
On Wednesday, the Houston Democrat became the first member of Congress to call for Trump's impeachment from the House floor. The congressman said the firing of FBI Director James Comey was one of the reasons. Listen to the calls U.S. Rep. Al Green received
Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Racial-slurs-thrown-at-Al-Green-after-calling-for-11161204.php
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141780158
Buns_of_Fire
(17,158 posts)afraid to show their faces in their own districts. Not violence, just having their noses rubbed in the opinions of ALL their constituents.
Pretty soon, the only "town halls" will be those filled with hand-picked True Believers only. If things work out according to congress' plans, even THEY will start showing up with bags of rotten tomatoes.
caballojm
(270 posts)Gosh! I treat these people like crap, lie to them, lower their pay, lessen their opportunities, threaten their retirements, their benefits and safety nets, generally make their lives miserable, make their children's lives miserable, support tax cut after tax cut for the uber-wealthy, make sure even the certifiably crazy can walk among us with as many guns as they can carry wherever and whenever they want, and these "people" dare to be angry with me??!! I feel confused and scared like a frightened little bunny rabbit. I'm having a BIG sad. Maybe I should go somewhere safe and welcoming like a Drumpf rally. Everyone is so happy and open and peaceful there. Why can't the meanies follow our example of peace and love?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)You rob and take benefits away from the poor and middle class to give massive tax cuts to corporations and your buddies in the 1% and you think people are going to cheer for you? How stupid do they think people are?
rickford66
(5,521 posts)when Dems went around the country to explain the ACA ? At least the latest complaints are fact based !!
deurbano
(2,894 posts)Hateful pieces of shit who freely dish it out, but can never take it. (Like 45... and compare that worthless pile of crap to HRC.)
DallasNE
(7,402 posts)Where were you in 2010 when the tea party folks were showing up armed at events.
Just today I saw a TV ad praising our new GOP Congressman for his support for repeal of ACA and how the replacement bill would improve healthcare, strengthen protections for pre-existing conditions, lower premiums and provide tax cuts. Interesting that no mention was made that 24 million (or more with the revised bill) would lose health insurance. Everything the GOP says is misinformation. Everything.
Gothmog
(144,939 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,861 posts)You have a philosophy that says "fuck everyone who isn't me" then you reap what you sow
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)They have no room to talk.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)Fuckers deserve everything they get and more.
MFM008
(19,803 posts)However if the news reported they had ebola, I might watch.....
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)JDC
(10,117 posts)"Excercising their rights." Thesr guys get scared by words.
Raven123
(4,792 posts)during the political battle over Obamacare. Somehow this just seems like what goes around comes around.
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)Republican voters are probably discouraged in many districts and our people should be energized to get out the vote
LeftInTX
(25,141 posts)They're afraid someone might call them a liar
They're afraid someone might tell them they're heartless and callous
They're afraid someone might call them a bigot
Poor snowflakes...
Danascot
(4,690 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)Shandris
(3,447 posts)Such a pity. And here they worked SO HARD to get everything done for their (and your) masters
!
Who knew that Republicans could be such loners? Ah well, you know what I say. Even introverts need friends!
So when your lonely, poor Republican signs your death warrant for his and the other El-ites pocketbook, remember, he and you both just need friends. You need each other.
Because REAL friends don't let friends go alone.
stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)I frankly see no other explanation. They have the determination, heart and soul of paid mercenaries...no public expression of need, suffering or desperation has any effect upon them at all. .
hay rick
(7,588 posts)I recently started referring to my congressman, Brian Mast, as a mercenary. If you are a middle class American, these people are enemy troops. The AHCA isn't a health care bill, it's a tax cut for the rich bill.
nolabear
(41,936 posts)elleng
(130,746 posts)TygrBright
(20,755 posts)drmeow
(5,012 posts)they were OK with the f**king tea party incivility and implicit and explicit (carrying semi-automatic rifles openly in rallies) threats, they can put up with our relatively tame activities. I hope they are shitting in their pants. GD snowflakes.
SergeStorms
(19,187 posts)if you can't stand the heat, get the HELL OUT OF CONGRESS! These dip-shits work for US, and we have the perfect right, THE DUTY, to let them know how we feel about their giveaway to the rich, while taking EVERYTHING away from the poor.
They feel "unsafe"? GOOD! Now they know how the poor and middle class feel about having NO HEALTHCARE!
DFW
(54,302 posts)They are telling their constituents: "I am helping write, or am at least preparing to vote for, legislation which could well condemn you and/or members of your family to ugly long painful deaths and possible financial ruin along the way." Then they are expressing their disbelief that people are unhappy with this message. People cheer news like that in North Korea, maybe, because they get punished if they show any other reaction than jubilance. We're not there yet.
ck4829
(35,039 posts)But they feel unsafe when we ask them questions.