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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTime to focus exclusively on mobilization. Persuasion is ineffective with hard core Deplorables
Nothing will deter them from their slavish devotion to their messiah. It's the world's biggest cult.There are a few that can be saved but they have to do it for themselves. Let the lost take care of the lost.
Trump's current approval is in the high thirties. That is not enough for him or his party to succeed. We just need to get our voters to the polls.
mopinko
(70,077 posts)this is my biggest beef w the party. i hope eric holder is gonna change that.
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)Some people can't be helped. Better to write them off and move to other activities.
I do still fight the trolls on social networks if they come looking for me. I learned not to ignore that part completely.
dalton99a
(81,450 posts)Fuck them
Wounded Bear
(58,645 posts)so yes, we need to dig into that 40-60% of the population that refuses to vote. Problem is, the propaganda has convinced many of them that "both sides are the same" and so why bother?
Time for serious outreach.
TryLogic
(1,722 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)not even bothering trying to reach them. They are lost.
And yes, agreed - it is all about not only getting out the vote, but allowing those who should be voting to vote.
Not easy. No easy road ahead.
33taw
(2,439 posts)There is no reason to wasted time convincing those who select party over country. There are better places to focus our energies.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)The latest poll showed Trump with a 75% approval rating among Republicans (or maybe it was among the people who had voted for him, I forget which). Yes, 75% is appallingly high, but it's lower than most Presidents rate among the people on their side.
Most of the people who voted for him will do so again, regardless of what happens. Nevertheless, peeling off a quarter of his supporters, or even a tenth of his supporters, would be huge. Absolutely we need to GOTV and counter voter suppression. Bear in mind, though, that persuading a Trump supporter to vote against him counts double -- increasing our total but decreasing his.
He's lost some support already. By the time of the midterms, and still more by 2020, there will be manufacturing jobs that haven't come back, there will be people suffering because of the elimination of environmental protections, etc. We can ignore the hard core but still have plenty of opportunities for persuasion.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)"Hard core"
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Your subject line recommended that we "focus exclusively on mobilization" (emphasis added). I disagree because I see room for persuasion as well.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I will give you ten dollars for every one you convince to leave the flock for every one who stays. See who ends up with more money. The ones you might be able to peal away, the nominal followers, who aren't constantly "witnessing" you might have some success with.
I know no one can shake me from my beliefs and give those who hold opposing ones the same credit.