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Melania---Slaps Trump's "little hand" Away---While Deplaning In Tel Aviv (Original Post) kpete May 2017 OP
Seems like true love to me! Laf.La.Dem. May 2017 #1
It also looks like Melania is being forced to walk behind Trump and off of the red carpet. TheBlackAdder May 2017 #34
If she walks next to him, there is a greater likelihood that Ilsa May 2017 #46
Wow. You're right! C Moon May 2017 #76
"forced"? I dunno. It looks like she's choosing to linger behind to avoid the contact. Bucky May 2017 #105
He always takes off without her, but he saw Nat & Alice11111 May 2017 #164
Putting on a show is getting to her amuse bouche May 2017 #2
She can't even put on a show anymore womanofthehills May 2017 #110
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2017 #179
Wow - that was pretty blatent leftynyc May 2017 #3
Yes. At first I thought this was a little sad, since he spooky3 May 2017 #24
Once she met him when he got to Mar-a-Lago at the start of his presidency, maybe it was even tblue37 May 2017 #79
He did a photo op on the WH grounds walking to the plane Alice11111 May 2017 #165
Lends credit to the reports that they signed divorce papers NightWatcher May 2017 #4
Maybe that's why she cried in church the day after inauguration jmbar2 May 2017 #56
Lawyer fees Scarsdale May 2017 #62
"The woman who marries for money usually earns every penny" alterfurz May 2017 #93
"Put on a happy face..." NOT. calimary May 2017 #144
There's the rumor they had divorce papers ready. forgotmylogin May 2017 #178
I wouldn't think less of her if Retrograde May 2017 #95
Don't know how true it is but it's being reported on the internets - former White House staffer womanofthehills May 2017 #111
I had not heard that. She would be wise to divorce him now, Alice11111 May 2017 #166
Someone must have told him he's been criticized for leaving her to walk in the back. Tanuki May 2017 #5
yeah. she just wants the hell out & it's so obvious & who could blame her luvMIdog May 2017 #8
Even here, she's a god two to three steps behind him... Docreed2003 May 2017 #9
It looks as if she was the last thing on his mind until he glanced over Tanuki May 2017 #17
He was plowing ahead in front of her treestar May 2017 #25
ha ha. Obvious she did not want trumpys hand. riversedge May 2017 #6
maybe she's tired of walking behind him? spanone May 2017 #7
I don't think she wants to walk with him, beside him, touching, etc. nt Ilsa May 2017 #49
kicked, rec'ed and retweeted! steve2470 May 2017 #10
Thanks! Cha May 2017 #139
Non-story oberliner May 2017 #11
People won't talk about health care in a bar but they will talk about this snooper2 May 2017 #13
Trump fans will say it shows how the media is biased against him oberliner May 2017 #15
They will say the exact same thing no matter what is being reported. NCTraveler May 2017 #29
But, in this case, they have a point oberliner May 2017 #41
I'm simply pointing out its insignificance. NCTraveler May 2017 #48
He didn't win the popular vote. lunamagica May 2017 #107
I really don't see why how a man treats his wife is "stupid." WinkyDink May 2017 #52
The way a man treats his wife, his horse, his dog, his ... is an indication of NCjack May 2017 #80
Absolutely agree. Even some Repubs may see that. Alice11111 May 2017 #167
We give relevance to the irrelevant by advertising our simple opinions on it. LanternWaste May 2017 #45
Yes, thank you oberliner May 2017 #47
"irrelevant," "simple opinions": Who says, besides two of you here? Think about THAT. WinkyDink May 2017 #57
Trump Fans will say maxrandb May 2017 #64
My approach is to try to convince them of the error of their ways oberliner May 2017 #99
This is an observation of a very disconnected man womanofthehills May 2017 #112
Ha ha ha ha ha ..... MADem May 2017 #146
There are Trump voters who are none of those things oberliner May 2017 #149
Funny--every one's I've met is either racist, sexist, or both. Every. Single. One. nt MADem May 2017 #153
You are lucky oberliner May 2017 #155
I suggest you scratch the surface, there. You might not like what you find. MADem May 2017 #161
Will do oberliner May 2017 #172
I don't think anyone who can condone Trump's behavior is a "good person." MADem May 2017 #176
Me too, but I can't talk to mine, as they blow up. Alice11111 May 2017 #170
I try to talk to them if they are at all rational, but many aren't. Alice11111 May 2017 #169
Trump Fans now think Fox is too Liberal - they are "so bright" womanofthehills May 2017 #113
I'm with you on this one. Alice11111 May 2017 #168
You are correct and on point nt 7962 May 2017 #157
Thanks oberliner May 2017 #158
I disagree kpete May 2017 #14
Very hard to tell what is going on from that clip oberliner May 2017 #16
That's funny. Looks crystal clear to me. Kingofalldems May 2017 #21
Yes, that's called confirmation bias oberliner May 2017 #40
Or perhaps "irony"? WinkyDink May 2017 #53
LOL...ok,it's crystal clear what she did.....n't Bengus81 May 2017 #55
very easy to tell what's going on in that clip - Melania smacks his hand away womanofthehills May 2017 #114
Lots of potential reasons why she might have done that oberliner May 2017 #115
Main reason seems to be SHE HATES HIS GUTS womanofthehills May 2017 #121
That is just conjecture oberliner May 2017 #122
Why bother responding? crim son May 2017 #163
I find it interesting oberliner May 2017 #174
Like clockwork. Kingofalldems May 2017 #20
Yep. Remember the 5 'O clock Charlie episode on MASH? Hassin Bin Sober May 2017 #63
I know right Cha May 2017 #119
I think ot is.it shows what he is made of.. CentralMass May 2017 #27
It doesn't show anything oberliner May 2017 #42
I'm just guessing here, Obie, that you've never been married Achilleaze May 2017 #50
OK oberliner May 2017 #100
Yeah, if Melania is shirking tRump's hand grab and he feels slighted, then yeah, it isn't irrelevant manicraven May 2017 #68
People have spats or bad days oberliner May 2017 #102
Have you ever seen them have a good day? Where, when - we are dying to see it. womanofthehills May 2017 #120
There are lots of pictures of them happy together oberliner May 2017 #123
NOT IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS womanofthehills May 2017 #125
I don't judge a president by their marital issues oberliner May 2017 #128
1. Nobody gets to be The Decider on "stuff." 2. So what? Must every discussion thread be of WinkyDink May 2017 #51
I think it's great to have a discussion about this here at DU oberliner May 2017 #101
Where/when and how did you get the idea BeyondGeography May 2017 #59
My premise is that giving incidents like this too much attention dilutes from the important stuff oberliner May 2017 #98
The good thing is Team Trump feels the same way BeyondGeography May 2017 #104
The media oxygen should be sucked up by what Trump's administration is actually doing oberliner May 2017 #108
We're talking about the difference between what should be and what is n/t BeyondGeography May 2017 #130
True: this isn't the most pressing thing going on in the world. nini May 2017 #72
No, it's not important in the slightest. Chemisse May 2017 #82
This requires no thinking LeftInTX May 2017 #88
The women on the Stephanie Miller show talked this about all morning. GusBob May 2017 #92
Same on The View marlakay May 2017 #129
I think it shows a big part of who trump is in Cha May 2017 #132
We agree, wont change health care debate but does level set KKKonservative hypocrisy. uponit7771 May 2017 #96
It is important !!- relating to others, esp your wife, makes for a healthier person womanofthehills May 2017 #109
Sometimes it looks like she likes him in photos and video oberliner May 2017 #117
I agree! And, said so down thread. It shows Cha May 2017 #133
lol sez you Cha May 2017 #116
Well, yeah oberliner May 2017 #118
If you really believe that, then just trash the thread. MADem May 2017 #145
I think it's important to have a discussion about this here at DU oberliner May 2017 #150
I think you'd be happier if you just ignored threads that require you to defend Trump. MADem May 2017 #152
The point of a discussion board (for me) is to discuss things oberliner May 2017 #154
Every time I encounter you, it seems you're carrying Trump water. MADem May 2017 #162
I oppose everything Trump stands for oberliner May 2017 #173
I think perhaps you'd be happier if you worried less about what "they" thought. MADem May 2017 #175
Amen. n/t Stand and Fight May 2017 #171
Trump has been so disrespectful of her. democrank May 2017 #12
"If you marry for money, you end up earning every penny." nt DesertRat May 2017 #73
Not a good optic...... Historic NY May 2017 #18
Melania realizes where those hands have been keithbvadu2 May 2017 #19
eww IronLionZion May 2017 #23
It was his left hand, and they'd just left Saudi Arabia Fritz Walter May 2017 #77
I'm a lefty and couldn't survive in many of those places LeftInTX May 2017 #89
Me too! Fritz Walter May 2017 #137
I watch enough Bollywood to know LeftInTX May 2017 #141
And this is why the taxpayers have to pay for her protection in NYC IronLionZion May 2017 #22
Looks like Trump fans scrambling to minimize Melania's hatred for him. Kingofalldems May 2017 #26
More of a brush than a slap, but yeah, she doesn't want to be a prop. (n/t) thesquanderer May 2017 #28
no - it was pretty quick and dismissive - almost like swatting an insect. nt AnotherMother4Peace May 2017 #31
Maybe you have a different definition of slap. I don't see palm contact. (n/t) thesquanderer May 2017 #36
MSNBC had the end of the ceremony on split screen. Ligyron May 2017 #30
she wasn't sure what he was reaching for DrDan May 2017 #32
Heh! JudyM May 2017 #159
Amazing. He must have annoyed her mightily on the plane and shes still angry. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #33
Do they really have to act out their marital strife on the world's stage? SticksnStones May 2017 #35
What?! You're demanding she actually be a prop! He holds nothing back; why should she? manicraven May 2017 #69
I'm suggesting that in that instance she is First Lady... SticksnStones May 2017 #74
It's not always that easy to leave someone when a child is involved womanofthehills May 2017 #124
I get that divorce can be difficult on a child, I do... SticksnStones May 2017 #143
The hand swatting was unbecoming a First Lady. REALLY? MADem May 2017 #177
We all know what Melania really sees in Orange Hitler: backscatter712 May 2017 #37
Bless her heart, I wonder if she knows that if Trump quits, she doesn't get to marry Mike Pence Bucky May 2017 #106
Trump's hands ARE smaller than normal... TomVilmer May 2017 #38
Trophies get tarnished too! imanamerican63 May 2017 #39
what a weak, weak man he is... EleanorR May 2017 #43
I noticed that too. xxqqqzme May 2017 #78
Take that, you nitwit republican Draft Dodger, you Achilleaze May 2017 #44
Ahhhh....it's spring and LOVE is blooming!! Except in the Trump house.......... Bengus81 May 2017 #54
Haha cilla4progress May 2017 #58
that had to be one hell of a plane ride! LOL nt Javaman May 2017 #60
It has been so clear for such a long time that she is done with him. JDC May 2017 #61
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow May 2017 #65
the first time I saw it, looked to me like he was waving her back behind him. niyad May 2017 #66
Very precious yuiyoshida May 2017 #67
Inauguration Glare, then:The National Anthem Nudge, Today: The Tarmac Slap DesertRat May 2017 #70
What's interesting in the inaugural clip is Ivanka does the same phony smile and drops bettyellen May 2017 #83
"The Tarmac Slap"! Perfect! Cha May 2017 #138
I'm no great fan of Melania. She got into this whole mess quite willingly. Grammy23 May 2017 #71
Me neither--but I will buy her tell-all book. MADem May 2017 #147
Not so sure about the tell-all GopherGal May 2017 #156
If it turns out that he's broke, and jailed, he can try to sue her for the profits. MADem May 2017 #160
His rude self always walks in front of her. He acts judesedit May 2017 #75
I miss him too - as well as Michelle, a truly classy lady red dog 1 May 2017 #127
Wow-- she did it so fast-- a reflex! ailsagirl May 2017 #81
Love is in the air.. Scurrilous May 2017 #84
Glad to see her getting some kicks in... jimlup May 2017 #85
lmao dawn5651 May 2017 #86
WOW!!! LeftInTX May 2017 #87
She didn't really slap it away. It's perfectly explainable. Buns_of_Fire May 2017 #90
In six months, this will be a "plotline" on WWE. Ken Burch May 2017 #91
I wonder how much Don had to pay to get her to go on the trip with him? Vinca May 2017 #94
The party of 'family values' is fine with all this LiberalLovinLug May 2017 #97
ThingsInCommon - Both Sara and Melania are third wives underthematrix May 2017 #103
George Takei: Melania's reaction is all of us... pokerfan May 2017 #126
+++ sure is JHan May 2017 #134
Exactly! thank you for that, pokerfan Cha May 2017 #136
K&R red dog 1 May 2017 #131
I hate to say this but I believe we are jumping the gun over this,,,,,, benld74 May 2017 #135
That's ok, he's got another hot piece of ass.... Aviation Pro May 2017 #140
Sorry, You're ALL Wrong, I Tell You! jbeing May 2017 #142
Wants nothing to do with him Warren DeMontague May 2017 #148
She's probably thinking, "Where has that hand been" Ewwwwww! Lil Missy May 2017 #151

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
46. If she walks next to him, there is a greater likelihood that
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:17 AM
May 2017

He'll grab her hand or brush against her in some way.

Clearly, she wants nothing to do with him physically.

Bucky

(53,986 posts)
105. "forced"? I dunno. It looks like she's choosing to linger behind to avoid the contact.
Mon May 22, 2017, 02:35 PM
May 2017

But yes, I'm sure it's partnership full of relentless powerplays.

Response to amuse bouche (Reply #2)

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
3. Wow - that was pretty blatent
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:51 AM
May 2017

I was watching the arrival ceremony and didn't notice that but did notice that both the prime minister and the president of Israel held their wives hands while walking and tried to remember if I had ever seen Melania and donnie holding hands. I don't think so.

spooky3

(34,425 posts)
24. Yes. At first I thought this was a little sad, since he
Mon May 22, 2017, 09:33 AM
May 2017

rarely makes any public gesture suggesting genuine affection or respect for his wife. But then when it appeared to result simply from his seeing the other guys doing it, no wonder she declined.

tblue37

(65,269 posts)
79. Once she met him when he got to Mar-a-Lago at the start of his presidency, maybe it was even
Mon May 22, 2017, 11:42 AM
May 2017

the first time he went there after being inaugurated, and she reached and took his hand as they started to walk. He patted her hand dismissively, and immediately dropped it, without even looking at her.

Body language experts had a field day with that, and also with the "keep your distance" way he semihugged her at the RNC, especially when he had so inappropriately groped Ivanka in front of the whole world the same night.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
165. He did a photo op on the WH grounds walking to the plane
Tue May 23, 2017, 01:24 AM
May 2017

once. It leaked that as soon as they were out of view, she flung his hand. He makes her skin crawl, just like the rest of us. Neither he nor anyone in the family talk to her or show any respect
It must be very tense. Of course, that boorish buffoon probably doesn't even notice.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
4. Lends credit to the reports that they signed divorce papers
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:52 AM
May 2017

which were to be filed after his election loss.

jmbar2

(4,869 posts)
56. Maybe that's why she cried in church the day after inauguration
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:33 AM
May 2017

She's not only married to the jerk, but now her life with him will be intensely public. I sort of feel sorry for her, but then she chose to marry for money. Hope she gets her money's worth.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
62. Lawyer fees
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:46 AM
May 2017

will likely eat up all his "fortune" Maybe that is the reason for Ivanka's "foundation scam?? Everyone knows the tRumps collect money only for themselves, forget charity.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
144. "Put on a happy face..." NOT.
Mon May 22, 2017, 06:04 PM
May 2017

Reminds me of video clips showing her at the inauguration. He turns around toward her and she breaks into a big smile. But as soon as he turns back away from her, her face noticeably falls, into a very visible look of unhappiness. Kinda like this photo of them seated together.

forgotmylogin

(7,522 posts)
178. There's the rumor they had divorce papers ready.
Sun May 28, 2017, 09:45 PM
May 2017

It sounds like Melania agreed to wait until after the election so their personal business wouldn't affect him until after he lost.

Then he won, and now she's stuck.

Retrograde

(10,132 posts)
95. I wouldn't think less of her if
Mon May 22, 2017, 02:04 PM
May 2017

she were to divorce him now: it would show a modicum of integrity - as opposed to hating the situation but making us pay.

womanofthehills

(8,685 posts)
111. Don't know how true it is but it's being reported on the internets - former White House staffer
Mon May 22, 2017, 03:04 PM
May 2017

says divorce papers were signed but not filed before Trump won the presidency.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
166. I had not heard that. She would be wise to divorce him now,
Tue May 23, 2017, 01:37 AM
May 2017

before his assets are gone. The prenup can probably be broken easily, if she has leverage like now, plus he can't handle another headache. She should get her money all up front and structure it as child support and alimony, which cannot be discharged in bankruptcy.

If she stays, she's going to go down w this sinking ship, as it appears to be. Better to get out before she is even more caught up in it. It is going to get worse.

They must have some agreement that she fake it, as I also see her smile when he checks on her, but then she doesn't make an effort, as soon as he turns around. It is all out in the open now. The world knows.

Tanuki

(14,916 posts)
5. Someone must have told him he's been criticized for leaving her to walk in the back.
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:55 AM
May 2017

Melania knows this is purely p.r. and is showing more dignity here than he is.

Docreed2003

(16,855 posts)
9. Even here, she's a god two to three steps behind him...
Mon May 22, 2017, 09:00 AM
May 2017

Agree though, nice to see she's not playing the game with him.

Tanuki

(14,916 posts)
17. It looks as if she was the last thing on his mind until he glanced over
Mon May 22, 2017, 09:09 AM
May 2017

and saw that the Netanyahus were walking hand in hand. Only then did he look back and make a belated bid to show a little respect to Melania, for the sake of the cameras and to dampen criticism. Good for her, striding forward with steely contempt. Unfortunately, she will undoubtedly pay a price later and in private. Run, Melania!

treestar

(82,383 posts)
25. He was plowing ahead in front of her
Mon May 22, 2017, 09:40 AM
May 2017

Even with the other couple though, so I wonder if she stays back because she is not even interested.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
10. kicked, rec'ed and retweeted!
Mon May 22, 2017, 09:00 AM
May 2017

I retweet because I have a hope, however slim, that some Republican will view it and maybe maybe think a bit.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
13. People won't talk about health care in a bar but they will talk about this
Mon May 22, 2017, 09:04 AM
May 2017

Whatever it takes to make the First Assholes be known as - Assholes LOL

By the way she did that it appears his little hand was trained, wasn't the first time

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
15. Trump fans will say it shows how the media is biased against him
Mon May 22, 2017, 09:07 AM
May 2017

And gets on his case for every little thing for no reason.

My preference would be for the media (and twitterverse) to focus on the real stuff.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
29. They will say the exact same thing no matter what is being reported.
Mon May 22, 2017, 09:54 AM
May 2017

"Trump fans will say it shows how the media is biased against him"

And real issues are being reported on. I have a hard time calling this the "media".

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
41. But, in this case, they have a point
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:09 AM
May 2017

As this is a non-story.

And the real issues are not being reported on nearly as prominently as the stupid ones.

Especially on twitter.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
48. I'm simply pointing out its insignificance.
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:18 AM
May 2017

We are talking about a guy who won the popular vote after spending a decade promoting the insignificant and fake. It's all a part of the game. The fact they have a point is insignificant on its own. They will make your claim no matter what.

Again, we are talking about twitter posts. There is no way to even consider controlling its insignificance. Just look at Trumps twitter feed. Do we have a point along the same lines there? Even more so?

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
80. The way a man treats his wife, his horse, his dog, his ... is an indication of
Mon May 22, 2017, 11:45 AM
May 2017

how he will treat anyone he gains authority over.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
45. We give relevance to the irrelevant by advertising our simple opinions on it.
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:15 AM
May 2017

"My preference would be for the media (and twitterverse) to focus on the real stuff..."

I suppose the best way to do that is to ignore the fabricated fluff rather than railing against it-- leading to even more curiosity. We give relevance to the irrelevant by advertising our simple opinions on it, regardless of our own preferences.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
47. Yes, thank you
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:18 AM
May 2017

I try to ignore it on twitter as much as possible and save my railing from when I'm among friends here at DU.

maxrandb

(15,311 posts)
64. Trump Fans will say
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:57 AM
May 2017
ANY negative story about him "shows how the media is biased against him"

Trying to appeal to, or coddling these Faux News, Hate Radio listening little pricks is how we ended up with the GOP in control of the White House, Congress, Courts, 33 of 50 Governorships and a majority of State Houses.

I for one am tired about being worried about how his Axe Body Spray wearing little pissants THINK!!!

Do they, FOR ONE FUCKING SECOND "worry" about how the bias of the media they consume will be perceived?

Fuck No!!!

Embarrass and beat these fuckers up every chance you get.

We can worry about being "nice" once we've wrested power from these bastards
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
99. My approach is to try to convince them of the error of their ways
Mon May 22, 2017, 02:25 PM
May 2017

And to criticize Trump on policy, temperament, and the like.

I have found that some Trump voters are open to hearing alternative points of view if it doesn't seem like it's coming from that place of hatred (even if it is).

MADem

(135,425 posts)
146. Ha ha ha ha ha .....
Mon May 22, 2017, 07:09 PM
May 2017

They're open to NOTHING. By and large, they're racists, misogynists, and dumb as dirt.

There's no talking to them, and they're not worth "convincing." Ask the kids mourning at Bowie State about that....

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
149. There are Trump voters who are none of those things
Mon May 22, 2017, 07:42 PM
May 2017

They don't all fit into those categories. Some are just poorly informed.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
155. You are lucky
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:13 PM
May 2017

I have family members whom I love very much who voted for Trump. It makes me try to figure out a way to persuade them of the error of their ways.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
161. I suggest you scratch the surface, there. You might not like what you find.
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:59 PM
May 2017

But at least you'll know the truth.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
172. Will do
Tue May 23, 2017, 06:23 AM
May 2017

Last edited Tue May 23, 2017, 06:55 AM - Edit history (1)

And I would suggest that you consider the possibility that some good people voted for Trump.

Edit to add:

I agree with Hillary Clinton's formulation with respect to various "baskets" of Trump voters. There is the basket of deplorables (which is a big one), but there are other baskets as well.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
176. I don't think anyone who can condone Trump's behavior is a "good person."
Sun May 28, 2017, 08:20 PM
May 2017

Turning a blind eye to "Lock her up" and "Build that wall" and "They're rapists, they're drug dealers...." is not the action of a "good person."

That's a person who's willing to "go along/get along" because the person saying such things will give THEM what they want (or so they believe).

I didn't buy the WW2 "Good Nazi" argument, either. You either reject bigotry, hatred, and evil, or you don't.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
170. Me too, but I can't talk to mine, as they blow up.
Tue May 23, 2017, 02:15 AM
May 2017

You are lucky if you can talk to yours. I live far away. We mostly communicate by sending photos of our kids.
We occasionally do holidays.

My brother is a Trumpster. We were in Mexico on a family trip. We were very slow to get service, like over an hour, and our group was the only gringo group. He said , he felt discriminated against. I said , it's the wall. He actually argued that the wall didn't matter. I said, they have pride and we keep insulting them. I mentioned Fox's comments.
He got really pissed, muttered insults, got his daughter and left the clubhouse pool, leaving my partner and I stranded without transportation, which was not a big deal. Just rude.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
169. I try to talk to them if they are at all rational, but many aren't.
Tue May 23, 2017, 02:02 AM
May 2017

They are too often filled w hate for Dems, liberals, and spew birther and other racist venom.
One told me a couple of days ago, when she broached the subject of out of pocket costs fot the Trumpcare preexisting conditions, "I shouldn't have to pay for their outrageous medical bills and premiums. That's just not right." Yeah, they may be partying down with cancer and hugging all of those bills.
Most really do not care about other people...empathy void.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
168. I'm with you on this one.
Tue May 23, 2017, 01:51 AM
May 2017

We Dems worry too much about how things will look, while the Repubs steamroller us, and their base is clapping.

We could have done a lot more if we weren't concerned about how it would look. Recess Supreme Court appointment. Spilled the beans on Russia investigation before the election.

Dems are rising up and I am proud of many in our leadership and especially of the people at the Town of halls, storming the airports, marching....

We really have to stomp the bastards. They lie, cheat, steal, and have the big bucks, so we can't be Pollyanna. Our democracy is really at stake.

kpete

(71,979 posts)
14. I disagree
Mon May 22, 2017, 09:07 AM
May 2017

though, maybe it is a bit shallow
however, She knows him better than WE do
and THAT is her reaction?

Makes me feel better that she hates him too.

peace,
kp

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
16. Very hard to tell what is going on from that clip
Mon May 22, 2017, 09:08 AM
May 2017

Might be reading something into it that isn't there. And, regardless, it doesn't matter.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
40. Yes, that's called confirmation bias
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:08 AM
May 2017

The tendency to interpret new evidence as confirmation of one's existing beliefs or theories.

womanofthehills

(8,685 posts)
114. very easy to tell what's going on in that clip - Melania smacks his hand away
Mon May 22, 2017, 03:14 PM
May 2017

You don't see that???????????????

womanofthehills

(8,685 posts)
121. Main reason seems to be SHE HATES HIS GUTS
Mon May 22, 2017, 03:25 PM
May 2017

Yea, it does matter. It makes him even more alone and more mentally unstable.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
122. That is just conjecture
Mon May 22, 2017, 03:27 PM
May 2017

We have no way of knowing that. Certainly this video does not mean that she hates his guts.

crim son

(27,464 posts)
163. Why bother responding?
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:10 PM
May 2017

You are an intelligent, thoughtful person not given to undue nastiness. That doesn't sit well with some people.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
174. I find it interesting
Tue May 23, 2017, 06:29 AM
May 2017

Sometimes I can convince those who disagree with me, other times I am persuaded to reconsider my position. That's what I love about DU.

manicraven

(901 posts)
68. Yeah, if Melania is shirking tRump's hand grab and he feels slighted, then yeah, it isn't irrelevant
Mon May 22, 2017, 11:10 AM
May 2017

Any time that idiot gets a bit of comeuppance, I'm happy. I also am hoping Melania finds her spine and gets away from the creep who no doubt cheated on her for at least one year with at least one woman, and he and his buddy covered it up. He's a groper, pervert, and misogynist. No woman should tolerate that behavior. So, it is relevant. This ass hole is in all of our lives, and he's ripping families apart and lying to the American people, etc., etc., etc. Melanie can give him a small piece of his just desserts.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
102. People have spats or bad days
Mon May 22, 2017, 02:27 PM
May 2017

Again, I don't find it to be any more important as a video of them holding hands.

womanofthehills

(8,685 posts)
120. Have you ever seen them have a good day? Where, when - we are dying to see it.
Mon May 22, 2017, 03:23 PM
May 2017
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WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
51. 1. Nobody gets to be The Decider on "stuff." 2. So what? Must every discussion thread be of
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:29 AM
May 2017

"important" stuff?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
101. I think it's great to have a discussion about this here at DU
Mon May 22, 2017, 02:27 PM
May 2017

My contribution to the discussion is that I believe this to be a non-story and I believe that focus on it in the twitterverse and the news media is bad for our side.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
98. My premise is that giving incidents like this too much attention dilutes from the important stuff
Mon May 22, 2017, 02:23 PM
May 2017

Sort of a version of the boy who cries wolf phenomenon.

BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
104. The good thing is Team Trump feels the same way
Mon May 22, 2017, 02:33 PM
May 2017

And I'm not being critical. You want these events to go off without a hitch because personal stuff like this sucks up a lot of media oxygen. My first reaction to this was, good, the Trump/Melania tension angle now competes with Bibi treating Donald like King David with a hair weave.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
108. The media oxygen should be sucked up by what Trump's administration is actually doing
Mon May 22, 2017, 02:40 PM
May 2017

Not to mention what Congress is doing.

In particular with regards to health care, the environment, the arts, etc.

With respect to this foreign trip, the focus can be on his hypocrisy, flip flopping, and cozying up to dictators.

With respect to Trump in general, the focus can be on the seriousness of his revealing classified info to the Russians, and the Russia investigation in general.

nini

(16,672 posts)
72. True: this isn't the most pressing thing going on in the world.
Mon May 22, 2017, 11:19 AM
May 2017

But it is still fun to watch him get dissed.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
92. The women on the Stephanie Miller show talked this about all morning.
Mon May 22, 2017, 01:48 PM
May 2017

It was funny as hell too. They seemed to recognize the sentiment

I am one who finds delight in stories such as this, especially for the wise cracks

marlakay

(11,443 posts)
129. Same on The View
Mon May 22, 2017, 03:46 PM
May 2017

All the women said, we have done this. When women are pissed they push away from holding hands automatically without thinking. I think that is what she did.

Not on purpose just reflex.

Cha

(297,029 posts)
132. I think it shows a big part of who trump is in
Mon May 22, 2017, 04:14 PM
May 2017

an ugly spectacular way.. on a world stage.

Not quite the Obama are they?!!

GusBob

womanofthehills

(8,685 posts)
109. It is important !!- relating to others, esp your wife, makes for a healthier person
Mon May 22, 2017, 02:56 PM
May 2017

God - looks like Melania HATES HIS GUTS. He must have done something really mean to her or her son
for her to appear to dislike him so much. She can't even pretend for the cameras. Have we ever seen any connection between Trump and Melania??


It's also important because we want to feel our president is normal with normal relationships.


 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
117. Sometimes it looks like she likes him in photos and video
Mon May 22, 2017, 03:22 PM
May 2017

Maybe she was just having a bad day or they had a little spat.

Cha

(297,029 posts)
133. I agree! And, said so down thread. It shows
Mon May 22, 2017, 04:30 PM
May 2017

a big part of who trump is in an ugly spectacular.. on a world stage.

Not quite the Obamas.. said I.. I see your thinking is along the same lines.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
145. If you really believe that, then just trash the thread.
Mon May 22, 2017, 07:02 PM
May 2017

Obviously it was important enough for you to try and tell us it's not important!

I think it's significant. Why? Because we pay enough cash to fund school lunches, Meals on Wheels, and all sorts of "wussy, Snowflake, Lib-tard" programs (for the poor readers--that was ) to keep her ass in NYC so she doesn't have to sleep with the Orange Shitbird.

And that, to me, is not "stupid stuff" at all.

I'm not going to "normalize" or "ignore" the fact that she hates him. Let's get it out in the open, and give her PERMISSION to divorce that miserable turd. Maybe it'll save the taxpayers some $$.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
150. I think it's important to have a discussion about this here at DU
Mon May 22, 2017, 07:43 PM
May 2017

My contribution to the discussion is that I believe this to be a non-story and I believe that focus on it in the twitterverse and the news media is bad for our side.

Just my perspective.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
152. I think you'd be happier if you just ignored threads that require you to defend Trump.
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:05 PM
May 2017

You're getting a lot of push-back so you might want to consider that your judgment might be a bit off. This is obviously NOT a "non-story" as it has attracted over a hundred and fifty replies here. People are talking about it on social media too. The video clip is being passed around and people ARE talking.

You're not the editor of facebook, twitter or DU -- stop trying to shut down conversation with "pooh pooh" and dire "concerns" about what THEY might think of US--screw "THEM" -- they're racist pigs who disrespect women and kill people of color and think they can get away with it. I don't really give a flying turd what they think of me--they can go fuck themselves, frankly.

And this "bad for our side" canard is just nonsense. Stop normalizing the behavior of a man who can only be described as a complete and utter BASTARD--to his wife, to minorities and women, and to the nation that did not elect him.

I'm not saying this to be unkind, but every time I see you here you're playing devil's advocate.

Quite frankly, that orange devil doesn't need an advocate in these times. He needs everyone to stand up, point at his SHIT behavior, and say "This is NOT ACCEPTABLE."

Just my perspective.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
154. The point of a discussion board (for me) is to discuss things
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:11 PM
May 2017

I don't really see the point in only participating in threads where I am just agreeing with everything and everyone. I think it's much more interesting when there is a point of divergence, and I can try to present a point of view that some disagree with.

In this case, I think it's a legitimate argument that I am making. Namely that this sort of thing is not helpful to the anti-Trump cause for reasons that I have tried to present to those who have engaged me on the topic.

I completely understand that other folks don't see it the way I do, but I am certainly not meaning to play devil's advocate. I genuinely believe that the promulgations of stories like this across the twitter verse and various media outlets makes it harder for us to get the word out to people that need to be convinced about the serious issues related to Trump.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
162. Every time I encounter you, it seems you're carrying Trump water.
Mon May 22, 2017, 09:16 PM
May 2017

I don't mean to be rude in saying that, but every conversation we've had, you're arguing from a wingnut hill. The "Oooooh, what will THEY think?" tack that you're using this time is especially irritating and frankly, hypocritical.

You're talking about how YOU want discussion?

Why are you telling US to shut up, then? To be afraid of what "THEY" (they being those racist, sexist, hate-filled Trump-humpers) think?

Really. It gets old.

This IS "Democratic" Underground. Most of us here lean LEFT, not right.

And using the "It makes it harder for US to get the word out" argument is equally disingenuous. Gee look, a right BASTARD treats his wife like shit--but don't say anything because you don't want to OFFEND the right bastard Trumphumping asshole voters who treat THEIR wives like shit...

Your arguments are really lousy. They're not legitimate--they're "Shut up--don't make the racist/sexist bigots FEEEEEL BAD." The fact of the matter is this: This kind of story ENERGIZES us--it makes us see what a PIG looks like, and the more these stories are spread about, maybe some of those racist, sexist Trumphumpers (or their enabling, turn-a-blind-eye wives) will start to get a feeling of ... UNEASE. They'll realize this kind of sleazy, shit behavior is just NOT ACCEPTABLE.

You're in a hole--stop digging. Stop NORMALIZING this abnormal bastard. His behavior is WRONG. His attitudes/views are archaic at best, disgusting at worst.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
173. I oppose everything Trump stands for
Tue May 23, 2017, 06:28 AM
May 2017

And have expressed criticism of his policies and his behavior repeatedly.

I am also a critic of the media and the way they cover things, especially politics. Similarly, I think social media, in particular, has a tendency to focus on things that I do not find important.

My view is that the focus ought to be on the things that matter. What Trump is doing with respect to health care, the environment, human rights, etc. - rather than other things that do not matter (eating fries, touching orbs, not holding Melania's hand, etc).

I think that is a reasonable position, but I respect those who disagree.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
175. I think perhaps you'd be happier if you worried less about what "they" thought.
Sun May 28, 2017, 08:16 PM
May 2017

"They" are a minority of the population, buoyed up by bots and trolls on "social media."

The way to fight back is to tell them to fuck off. And if that doesn't suit you, log off--"social media" is an optional exercise, like basket weaving or going to the movies--it's not a mandatory activity.

And what "matters" is in the eye of the beholder. A guy on his 3rd wife, who can't even get her to fake being lovey-dovey for 5 minutes in order to create a false narrative, "matters" to a lot of people. How you treat your spouse is suggestive of how you treat others around you. If that stuff didn't matter, you wouldn't see THIS kind of stuff:





Trump's spaced-out behavior on this debacle of a world tour also "matters" to a lot of people who look at his conduct and think "That guy is losing it."

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
18. Not a good optic......
Mon May 22, 2017, 09:09 AM
May 2017

sure make it look like they weren't expect her as a tag a long. Why is she left to walk off the carpet and behind him??

keithbvadu2

(36,722 posts)
19. Melania realizes where those hands have been
Mon May 22, 2017, 09:12 AM
May 2017

Friendship hug for wife, sexually intimate hug for daughter

Body Language Expert Weighs In on Donald Trump’s Awkward RNC Stage Hugs With Melania and Ivanka

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/donald-trump-awkwardly-hugs-melania-ivanka-expert-weighs-in-w430543
.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
77. It was his left hand, and they'd just left Saudi Arabia
Mon May 22, 2017, 11:37 AM
May 2017

One of the reasons why some cultures consider the left hand "unclean" is because they lack toilet paper.

"When in Riyadh..."

LeftInTX

(25,201 posts)
89. I'm a lefty and couldn't survive in many of those places
Mon May 22, 2017, 01:11 PM
May 2017

However, there is TP at the fancy hotels that cater to westerners.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
137. Me too!
Mon May 22, 2017, 04:37 PM
May 2017

And had you noticed that Obama, Clinton and one other recent POTUS were lefties?

Haven't been there, so I'll take your word.

On the other hand, (pun intended) it wouldn't take much stress for 45 to break potty-training.

LeftInTX

(25,201 posts)
141. I watch enough Bollywood to know
Mon May 22, 2017, 05:24 PM
May 2017

Plus my sister travels to the Mid-East and India all the time.
She stays at 5 stars. She's really picky.

IronLionZion

(45,403 posts)
22. And this is why the taxpayers have to pay for her protection in NYC
Mon May 22, 2017, 09:17 AM
May 2017

because she doesn't want to live with an insufferable asshole. She was probably the person most glad that he won the election so that they can live separately.

Hillary was similarly publicly rejecting of Bill's affections when he was screwing around.

Huma Abedin had the right approach to Anthony Weiner. What a wiener.

Kingofalldems

(38,440 posts)
26. Looks like Trump fans scrambling to minimize Melania's hatred for him.
Mon May 22, 2017, 09:48 AM
May 2017

She may hate him more than we do.

Ligyron

(7,622 posts)
30. MSNBC had the end of the ceremony on split screen.
Mon May 22, 2017, 09:57 AM
May 2017

When I saw it, they actually WERE holding hands. Well, fingers anyway.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
35. Do they really have to act out their marital strife on the world's stage?
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:04 AM
May 2017

Everybody knows he's a creep. The hand slap was childish, IMO.

She is physically allowed to leave him.

She stays for what, the cash payout she's expecting?

You're on a taxpayer funded diplomatic trip for godsake, not dinner with the neighbors. Pretend to have a little dignity and respect for the role of First Lady. We know you hate him. We hate him. But your role right now is representing America with SOME decorum.

Keep the marital squabbles at home. America is embarrassed enough by the Trumps. Grow up Melania and have your tiffs on your own time!

manicraven

(901 posts)
69. What?! You're demanding she actually be a prop! He holds nothing back; why should she?
Mon May 22, 2017, 11:16 AM
May 2017

Besides, tRump is getting worse and maybe it's becoming just unbearable to be with him. Let the world see the truth that even his own wife can't stomach him.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
74. I'm suggesting that in that instance she is First Lady...
Mon May 22, 2017, 11:27 AM
May 2017

The world knows the truth already. He's a creep. In diplomatic occasions she not a prop...I don't consider the role of First Lady to be just a prop...but she does have a diplomatic role to play.

Decorum is not too much to ask for. I'm not interested in their marital problems.

You don't have a fight with your husband at a diplomatic event. I wouldn't act out towards my partner at say, the company Christmas party. The Trumps are essentially at work when they are boarding and exiting planes.

If she doesn't want the job, she can quit. There are no laws preventing her from no longer being our First Lady. When she is on a diplomatic trip she is First Lady. That's the nature of public service.

She behaved like Mrs. Donald Trump, not like the First Lady of the United States of America.

The slap, while I understand her revulsion, seemed impulsive and inappropriate given the public setting, cameras of the world aimed.

womanofthehills

(8,685 posts)
124. It's not always that easy to leave someone when a child is involved
Mon May 22, 2017, 03:38 PM
May 2017

Trump could be using the child as leverage. You say "grow up Melania" when Trump's first wife accused him of rape. We have no idea what this mentally disturbed man might have done to his wife or child. She obviously can no longer pretend and why should she.

I say - Melania - show the world you hate him too.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
143. I get that divorce can be difficult on a child, I do...
Mon May 22, 2017, 06:03 PM
May 2017

But she has just as much leverage now...she's a very public figure. I'd argue considering his low poll numbers, she has even more leverage over him.

She can have instant access to as wide an audience as she wants to tell her side of the story. She's got countless women (and men!) around the globe who would vocally support leaving Donnie.

Is there a court in America that would deem him a better parent than her? Of course not. He barely sees the kid. His Mother's Day gift to her was to not come home.

She can have as much agency in her own life as she chooses to exercise. If she stays because she's waiting on a windfall for sticking it out, well, that's on her.

She could leave without a dime and instantly have a book deal, a modeling gig. It's not like if she left him she'd be penniless and unable to support a child. Many women have no choice and stay in a hurtful marriage to keep a roof over their kids' heads. Many women stay because they fear no one will believe them or they fear retribution. That's just not the case here. Ivana retracted the rape story not out of fear but because she wanted to keep the cash settlement. Hooray for womenkind?

The hand swatting was unbecoming a First Lady. More reality TV than diplomacy. We get that her marriage sucks. We get he's a pig. But she's still First Lady. Do we really have to give a pass to all of the antics of this family?


MADem

(135,425 posts)
177. The hand swatting was unbecoming a First Lady. REALLY?
Sun May 28, 2017, 08:26 PM
May 2017

She didn't want that pig touching her.

He thought he could force/bully her into it because they were in public.

She showed him.

I'm no Melania fan, but I have her back on that issue.

It was unbecoming of HIM to make her walk behind him, and then, when he saw the other world leader being nice to his wife, try to copy/fake affection that wasn't there. She puts up with being used, but there's a limit. She knows better than he does what looks totally phony.

He should watch some video of how Obama treated his wife, to learn how it's done.

TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
38. Trump's hands ARE smaller than normal...
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:07 AM
May 2017

... but not by much. "The scientifically objective results: Trump does indeed have hands just below average size, particularly for a man standing 6-foot-2. According to various human anatomy websites, the average-height American adult male (5-foot-10) has an average hand size (measured from the tip of the middle finger to the wrist) of 7.44 inches. Trump's measures 7.25 inches."
"According to several scientific studies, this is a definitively below-average hand length for a man, especially for his height of 6 feet 2 inches. A 1980 study commissioned by the U.S. Army indicates that Trump’s hand length of 7.25 inches hovers around the 25th percentile of hand length among military men. A meta-analysis of studies from the Georgia Tech Research Institute places Trump’s hands below the 50th percentile. And the 1988 Anthropomorphic Survey of U.S. Personnel, used frequently by the Ergonomic Center of North Carolina, places Trump’s hands at the 15th percentile. Trump is, medically speaking, short-fingered."

This important issue needs much more publicity .

EleanorR

(2,389 posts)
43. what a weak, weak man he is...
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:10 AM
May 2017

He has to look to another man to know how to behave, and when he tries to copy that man it's a big old fail.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
44. Take that, you nitwit republican Draft Dodger, you
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:13 AM
May 2017

Freakin republican War on Women suffers a pity-pat slap from a dame who has had enough of the idiotic, shrunken-soul, fear-driven, myopic, mysogynist republican shit.

Bengus81

(6,930 posts)
54. Ahhhh....it's spring and LOVE is blooming!! Except in the Trump house..........
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:31 AM
May 2017

Wow....a marriage made at the bank. She hates this SHIT with a passion and only wants to be left alone in NYC.

JDC

(10,121 posts)
61. It has been so clear for such a long time that she is done with him.
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:45 AM
May 2017

There was a thread a couple of weeks ago here that indicated that Baron would be attending a DC school in fall. Nope, he will not be, for a couple of really obvious reasons.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
83. What's interesting in the inaugural clip is Ivanka does the same phony smile and drops
Mon May 22, 2017, 12:01 PM
May 2017

It too the second he looks away. To me it looked as though that's who he was really looking at. It's pretty weird no one talks about Ivanka in that clip.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
71. I'm no great fan of Melania. She got into this whole mess quite willingly.
Mon May 22, 2017, 11:17 AM
May 2017

I guess the lure of a life of luxury was just too much to skip. But she forgot that once in a while she'd have to play the role of dutiful wife. After the election, that was sealed and her dreams of a hasty divorce went up in smoke. So the display on the red carpet gave me a much needed laugh. There is not much to laugh at with this whole tRump debacle but when one comes along, we should take full advantage of the chance to enjoy a hearty belly laugh. Maybe they DO deserve each other.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
147. Me neither--but I will buy her tell-all book.
Mon May 22, 2017, 07:14 PM
May 2017

I'll even pay full price if it's juicy enough!

I'll bet she wishes she married some OTHER rich, decrepit asshole.

GopherGal

(2,008 posts)
156. Not so sure about the tell-all
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:20 PM
May 2017

Unless she manages to get free of him without being bound by a non-disparagement clause... (Not sure if waiting out the effect of KFC diet and sedentary lifestyle might help her out there...)

Also since the only value in the Trump Organization is the Trump brand, any harm to his reputation/brand is potentially a harm to her child's inheritance... Barron serves as golden handcuffs a bit there.

I imagine Ivana had reasons similar to these for backing down from the rape claim, and they apply more or less equally to Melania.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
160. If it turns out that he's broke, and jailed, he can try to sue her for the profits.
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:58 PM
May 2017

If his name is mud, there's no "disparagement" to be done. If you're telling the truth, you're not "disparaging."

All she has to do is report on things we already know, e.g. his p-grabbing ways, his attempts to seduce that PEOPLE reporter, his PLAYBOY girlfriend on the side while she was pregnant, the names he called their child, and talk about how they made HER feel.


She's learned at the knee of the master--keep him in court, paying lawyers, with money he doesn't have. If he's no value to the Russians, they'll turn off the spigot. If he stops paying the suits, they won't kill themselves trying to make his case for him.

judesedit

(4,437 posts)
75. His rude self always walks in front of her. He acts
Mon May 22, 2017, 11:31 AM
May 2017

Like she isn't even there most times. It's always all about him. He's the rudest ever. I miss that suave, debonair, polite statesman, Barack Obama, so so so much. As does most of the world, I'd imagine.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
85. Glad to see her getting some kicks in...
Mon May 22, 2017, 12:23 PM
May 2017

He's such as asshole and I feel sorry for her having to take it. Glad she is fighting back, even in a small way.

The body language is clear, not just in this clip. He's a complete ass and they would likely divorce if not for the PROTUS thing.

dawn5651

(603 posts)
86. lmao
Mon May 22, 2017, 12:24 PM
May 2017

i been calling her the trophy and ivanka the first lady for a long time......and i notice in that gif with ivanka she didn't push him away....45 is a out and out creepy bastard.

LeftInTX

(25,201 posts)
87. WOW!!!
Mon May 22, 2017, 12:59 PM
May 2017

I gave him a pass at the inauguration, cuz I figured he was distracted by all the pomp. But this is plain old blatant and rude. What an ass!!!

Friday, he did something similar when he got on the plane, but I didn't see the video.

Now, he walks several feet in front of his wife after getting off an airplane.

No excuse!!!

Buns_of_Fire

(17,172 posts)
90. She didn't really slap it away. It's perfectly explainable.
Mon May 22, 2017, 01:12 PM
May 2017

You see, he'd been chowing down on KFC the whole time they were in the air (with time out for naps), and his wee hands were all slippery from chicken fat and gravy. Her hand just slipped out of his! (Reince forgot to pack the golden fingerbowls and personalized moist towelettes, so he was sent back to retrieve them.)

As for not walking next to him, would YOU want to potentially be in the path of a rotten tomato intended for Comrade Fatass?

See? There are quite logical explanations for all of this.


P.S. Oh, and what looked like a slap? She was just shaking off a giblet that got stuck to her hand. No biggie. (Memo to WH: My services as Press Secretary are available for $5 million/month, payable in advance, no refunds.)

Vinca

(50,248 posts)
94. I wonder how much Don had to pay to get her to go on the trip with him?
Mon May 22, 2017, 01:50 PM
May 2017

No way she's there unless it's a big payday.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,168 posts)
97. The party of 'family values' is fine with all this
Mon May 22, 2017, 02:16 PM
May 2017

I remember this incident when he left his wife behind. Its that he has such arrogance that he does not even stop to consider the optics, even if he hates her in actuality. He has lived his life with impunity and sees no reason to grovel with such chores as being polite, and humble, and decent, even if just for the cameras.





Just the fact that his spouse doesn't live with him would be a major scandal on Fox News if the shoes were on the other feet.

benld74

(9,904 posts)
135. I hate to say this but I believe we are jumping the gun over this,,,,,,
Mon May 22, 2017, 04:33 PM
May 2017

He already had to take time off because he had over excerted himself

That tarmac IS bigly ya knows

Him got scared

And wanted to hold mummas hand to make it all the way

She slapped him down HA

You're 70 for Chris-sake

ACT LIKE IT

Aviation Pro

(12,140 posts)
140. That's ok, he's got another hot piece of ass....
Mon May 22, 2017, 05:23 PM
May 2017

...his daughter. What a disgusting, vile, pig this fucking guy is.

jbeing

(171 posts)
142. Sorry, You're ALL Wrong, I Tell You!
Mon May 22, 2017, 05:56 PM
May 2017

Hand-holding, my a$$. Melania didn't want her pu$$y grabbed on the tarmac. She's seen that move before and trained with the Slovakian Secret Service to counter it. Hand-to-hand combat. Womano-a-Mano!

She didn't need to come to Israel. She has her own mini Wailing Wall (Think Spinal Tap) in gold at Trump Tower - red-carpeted - next to her Stairmaster. You should hear the wailing.

Get it right, people.

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