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Mon May 22, 2017, 11:21 AM

The Wall Comes Tumbling Down

“I deny everything I say, because everything I say is a lie. And everything I deny is a lie, too.”
– Groucho Marx


Rational people knew that candidate Trump was lying when he told gullible crowds that he would build a wall between the Unites States and Mexico. More, he appealed to these people's ugliest instincts, promising them that Mexico would foot the entire bill for this wall. Trump, of course, must have known that this would never happen. His actual purpose was to stir the pot of hatred and fear that – if it boiled over – might help make him to “win” an election.

Trump's campaign and his presidency have attempted to create other walls within America. He has exploited divides between citizens. He's attacked individuals and institutions. In doing so, he serves as a perfect illustration of the reality that those who hate, become hate, and thus are hated. And this is the only quasi-positive thing that can be said about him.

Past presidents have been notorious liars. Lyndon Johnson lied to his friends, Richard Nixon to his enemies. But Trump is by far the worst ever. Likewise, there have been serious divisions between Americans before. The Civil War is an obvious example. The 1960s – '70s is another. The significant difference is that today, there is a president who purposely has added fuel to the fires of division.

One hundred and twenty-two days into the Trump presidency, the chickens are coming home to roost. The pace of the unraveling of the lies and corruption of the campaign/administration is building momentum. We are living in historic times.

A number of people – mainly young, but also some of my generation – that I communicate with are expressing frustrations that the process is taking too long. Actually, it is moving along at the best pace possible. A key to that is found in a second concern expressed: republicans in DC are unlikely to move to impeach Trump.

Last week, MSNBC's Joy Reid (an absolute treasure in the mainstream media) made a point that deserves far greater attention than it has received. Those republicans facing re-election campaigns next year are already contacting their major donors. And those donors are becoming increasingly upset by the circus of ass-clowns in the administration. They are unlikely to invest in an effort to protect this self-destructive administration.

I've frequently advocated that people read Malcolm Nance's book on the Russian-Trump connections. What we are witnessing today is exactly what he spoke about in his wonderful book, and has said on various news programs in recent months. In a very real sense, this is much like the intelligence community's destabilizing of foreign governments in the past.

Reports that the Assistant Attorney General's naming a Special Counsel do not name Trump's son-n-law, but he is the fellow inside the White House that is of special focus. This is due to his coordination with Eric Prince, and attendance of the secret meeting on the island off the African coast. This was an attempt to create an outside-of-government operation to coordinate with Russian interests – much like the Reagan-Bush administration's Iran-Contra operations.

The intelligence community is also relying upon evaluations of Trump's personality traits. Trump does not, as we all know, deal with “bad news” well. Hence, the early morning tweets, etc, that his administration tries to normalize. And Trump's uncanny compulsion to publicly contradict their efforts within 24 hours. Thus, morale within the White House is sinking lower and lower daily, and the hiring of personal legal representation is increasing at the same pace.

The wall that Donald Trump attempted to build is tumbling down.

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H2O Man May 2017 OP
dalton99a May 2017 #1
H2O Man May 2017 #3
CaliforniaPeggy May 2017 #2
H2O Man May 2017 #4
CaliforniaPeggy May 2017 #11
H2O Man May 2017 #23
CaliforniaPeggy May 2017 #34
saidsimplesimon May 2017 #5
H2O Man May 2017 #6
Ligyron May 2017 #44
Caliman73 May 2017 #7
H2O Man May 2017 #8
Pluvious May 2017 #12
H2O Man May 2017 #25
burrowowl May 2017 #70
pangaia May 2017 #14
H2O Man May 2017 #27
tblue37 May 2017 #9
H2O Man May 2017 #29
mac56 May 2017 #10
H2O Man May 2017 #24
Initech May 2017 #13
H2O Man May 2017 #36
Initech May 2017 #37
bucolic_frolic May 2017 #15
H2O Man May 2017 #45
Scurrilous May 2017 #16
H2O Man May 2017 #46
spanone May 2017 #17
H2O Man May 2017 #47
Joe Nation May 2017 #18
FakeNoose May 2017 #38
H2O Man May 2017 #48
tclambert May 2017 #19
H2O Man May 2017 #50
countryjake May 2017 #20
H2O Man May 2017 #53
ProudProgressiveNow May 2017 #21
H2O Man May 2017 #54
cate94 May 2017 #22
H2O Man May 2017 #55
Blue_Roses May 2017 #26
H2O Man May 2017 #28
Blue_Roses May 2017 #30
H2O Man May 2017 #31
H2O Man May 2017 #56
Blue_Roses May 2017 #58
Me. May 2017 #32
H2O Man May 2017 #39
Me. May 2017 #40
H2O Man May 2017 #57
Me. May 2017 #69
Tanuki May 2017 #33
Hekate May 2017 #42
H2O Man May 2017 #59
democrank May 2017 #35
H2O Man May 2017 #60
Hekate May 2017 #41
H2O Man May 2017 #61
BlancheSplanchnik May 2017 #43
H2O Man May 2017 #63
BlancheSplanchnik May 2017 #68
DetlefK May 2017 #49
H2O Man May 2017 #64
moonseller66 May 2017 #51
H2O Man May 2017 #65
pbmus May 2017 #52
H2O Man May 2017 #66
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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 11:23 AM

1. Thanks for such a cogent summary

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #1)

Mon May 22, 2017, 11:47 AM

3. Thank you.

As odd as it sounds, I look forward to Trump's return to Washington. I know that Trump has made calls seeking "advice," and that each person has told him the same thing: hire legal representation, and shut up. But he is incapable of shutting up.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 11:36 AM

2. A big, fat K&R!

And off to the Greatest Page with your perfect essay, my dear H20 Man.

So very well said.

Thank you!

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #2)

Mon May 22, 2017, 11:48 AM

4. Thanks, Peggy!

Doesn't this strike you as a re-make of a classic movie we saw in 1973-74?

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #4)

Mon May 22, 2017, 01:21 PM

11. Which movie?

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #11)

Mon May 22, 2017, 04:20 PM

23. "All the President's Men."

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #23)

Mon May 22, 2017, 06:43 PM

34. Oh, of course!

I had been thinking that too, but wasn't sure.

Thanks!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 11:54 AM

5. Well done, thank you H20

The most notorious liar is the one who lies to himself, the bad hair baby.

Groucho was one of my father's "don't touch the channel" shows back in the day.

"I worked my way up from nothing to a state of extreme poverty." Groucho Marx

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Response to saidsimplesimon (Reply #5)

Mon May 22, 2017, 12:11 PM

6. Thanks.

An actor attempts to fool others into believing he's someone other than who he is; a fool convinces himself.

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Response to saidsimplesimon (Reply #5)

Tue May 23, 2017, 11:01 AM

44. I liked when he refused to join any club that would accept him as a member.

After all, we have to have standards.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 12:22 PM

7. I'd like to believe it

I think that eventually, the weight of all of the various parts of this intrigue will be too much. I am just struggling because of the presence of right wing media which keeps a fairly large portion (though a minority) of citizens in the dark about what is going on. My concern is that there are 63 million "Japanese soldiers" sitting in that cave still fighting the war that has been over for 20 years (if you get my analogy). They are misinformed and truly believe that there is an unjustified, coordinated effort to harm this innocent and great leader. Then we have a large chunk of people who don't care one way or the other and are more interested in who will in "The Voice" or the NBA playoffs, or who signed with the Pats, or how the Yankees are doing this season (I don't even know if that show is still on).

I would like to think that we will get it right and Trump and his administration will crash and burn, taking the Republicans down with them, but many of my fellow citizens have not given me much to be hopeful about.

The French are lamenting such "low turn out" in their recent election. 75% of the voting population voted in the election. We had just over 50%. I wish we had such "low turn out" as the French. Hillary Clinton would be president now.

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #7)

Mon May 22, 2017, 01:10 PM

8. I hear you!

It's a sad state of affairs that led to this. In a healthy society, a person of Trump's (lack of) character would never be considered for any position of leadership. Yet, even within our damaged system, there remains some ability at self-correcting.

On the positive side, I think this has resulted in both an increase in grass roots activity, and in the corporate media providing a superior product since January!

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #8)

Mon May 22, 2017, 01:23 PM

12. We've also learned of our new vulnerabilities to social media manipulation

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Response to Pluvious (Reply #12)

Mon May 22, 2017, 05:22 PM

25. Right.

The amount of acrimony on sites -- including here -- doesn't help create unity. It seems to get worse with each primary season.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #25)

Tue May 23, 2017, 07:31 PM

70. Yes it does

Loved the Grocho Marx show with the bird coming down with comments!

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #8)

Mon May 22, 2017, 01:39 PM

14. Thanks for sharing your insight.

I really appreciate people such as yourself here who do ponder and then TAKE THE TIME to share it all.
I am usually......too lazy to create such clear essays. I must say I pretty much get ALL my 'news' here. Any time I turn on the car radio, which is usually NPR, classical stations, etc...and catch the hourly news, it is always, " Eh, I know that already from DU!" LOL!!

Anyway thanks....

Oh,, I am not so sure the corporate media will keep up doing even as well as they have been. I just don't trust them. When more $$ is too be made conning us, they will... Hope I am wrong..



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Response to pangaia (Reply #14)

Mon May 22, 2017, 05:25 PM

27. I have to agree

that the corporate media is most likely going to revert once Trump is gone. However, the important role that the entire media plays may inspire some thoughtful young folks to pursue a career in some form of journalism.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 01:15 PM

9. Jared's actual title for his made up position in Trump's (mis)administration

is "Senior White House Advisor," so I don't think the label applied to the unknown high level advisor is exactly a coincidence.

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #9)

Mon May 22, 2017, 05:28 PM

29. No coincidence.

There just aren't that many others trying to hijack US foreign policy. He's in way over his head.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 01:18 PM

10. Do you mind if I share with attribution?

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Response to mac56 (Reply #10)

Mon May 22, 2017, 04:21 PM

24. Feel free to.

Thanks!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 01:24 PM

13. May the wall never get built!

And if for some god forsaken reason it does, may the next president knock it down!

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Response to Initech (Reply #13)

Mon May 22, 2017, 07:07 PM

36. Right.

It quite literally can never be built, but he may attempt to push for part of it to be started. He'll do so, to rally his rabid supporters.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #36)

Mon May 22, 2017, 07:16 PM

37. He'll have a groundbreaking ceremony akin to George Bluth from Arrested Development.

They're not really going to do anything, but it will make them look good to the investors, in this case, voters.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 01:45 PM

15. President Obama

assured the American people that the United States would respond
to the election imbroglio at a 'time and place of our choosing'

That was a comprehensive manner of expression to be sure, and at
the time we hadn't a clue what he really meant. A lot has developed
since then, and it all has to play out.

Keep the faith. Resist.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #15)

Tue May 23, 2017, 11:06 AM

45. True, that.

Try as he might, Trump is helpless in his efforts to keep it from playing out.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 01:48 PM

16. K&R

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Response to Scurrilous (Reply #16)

Tue May 23, 2017, 11:06 AM

46. Thanks!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 01:50 PM

17. his entire campaign was a fraud. nothing more. nothing less.

K&R...

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Response to spanone (Reply #17)

Tue May 23, 2017, 11:07 AM

47. Right.

Trump is the essence of a human fraud.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 01:53 PM

18. I disagree....

I think Trump had no idea that he couldn't just build a wall if he wanted to as president. The rest of the nonsense he spewed about Mexico paying for it, and sowing seeds of immigrant hatred, was all intentional of course but I think when people attribute too much actual planning and forethought to people like Trump, they give these people way too much credit.

Trump is one of the dumbest damn chimps on the planet and nothing he does is with any amount of planning or thought. The people around have slowly learned to manipulate his inability to comprehend simple concepts and are using him to force their own agenda through. I doubt Trump has any concept of all the agendas that swirl around him.

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Response to Joe Nation (Reply #18)

Mon May 22, 2017, 07:24 PM

38. Yep, he hasn't a clue

He makes it up as he goes along. His posse of "yes men" (and family) all tell him he's right and how smart he is.

But . he . has . no . clue.


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Response to Joe Nation (Reply #18)

Tue May 23, 2017, 11:11 AM

48. Interesting.

He might very well have initially had the idea that a wall was a "solution," and that if he said, "Build a wall," it would be accomplished. And he is indeed ignorant of reality.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 01:58 PM

19. Republicans! Look how far you have come from "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall."

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Response to tclambert (Reply #19)

Tue May 23, 2017, 11:13 AM

50. How far they have sunk .....

and I considered Reagan a low-life.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 02:05 PM

20. Ah yes, the Blackwater Overlord...

glad to see that there are others aware of how deep the roots of this cabal may go.

Thank you, H2O Man, for yet another great read!

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Response to countryjake (Reply #20)

Tue May 23, 2017, 03:57 PM

53. That's a key point.

The "secret" meeting rubbed a lot of military intelligence folks the wrong way. And for good reason. I think that people need to look at that segment in the context of Iran-contra, to fully appreciate how dangerous this really is.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 02:10 PM

21. K&R nt

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Response to ProudProgressiveNow (Reply #21)

Tue May 23, 2017, 03:57 PM

54. Thanks!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 02:20 PM

22. K & R nt

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Response to cate94 (Reply #22)

Tue May 23, 2017, 03:58 PM

55. Thanks!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 05:24 PM

26. Just finished reading

Malcolm Nance's book. ( I think I might have a little crush on him! )

As I was reading, I had to flip back and check the publication date and of course, it was published way before any of this stuff started coming out.How did he know all this so early on?

It's sad to see our country go through such betrayal from the man who is suppose to uphold the Constitution. But, I do see us getting through this and we will be stronger because of it.

So Putin will lose in the long run. His tricks to try and erode our democracy has ironically, made us fight back, giving a fresh new face to freedom.

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Response to Blue_Roses (Reply #26)

Mon May 22, 2017, 05:26 PM

28. Right!

It's almost as if Mr. Nance was involved in some curious way in the operation! (grin)

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #28)

Mon May 22, 2017, 05:38 PM

30. I actually wondered about that

I saw him on Bill Maher's show a few weeks ago and he definitely knows his stuff. He has a great poker face too. So maybe we'll find out in his next book!

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Response to Blue_Roses (Reply #30)

Mon May 22, 2017, 05:44 PM

31. Oh, he is involved.

He is an intense man, who takes his duties seriously.

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Response to Blue_Roses (Reply #30)

Tue May 23, 2017, 03:59 PM

56. I saw a recent

interview, where he said that initially, they were unsure of how dangerous the Trump group was. There was concern that they might be intelligent. But, to their relief, it turns out that they are surprisingly stupid.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #56)

Tue May 23, 2017, 04:10 PM

58. lol...

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 05:56 PM

32. He's Always Been A Liar

Last edited Mon May 22, 2017, 06:27 PM - Edit history (1)

And thinks he can get away with anything because he always has. But he's in the bigs now and what he's going to find, especially with the Cons, is that it's every man for himself. And they will hang his sorry, uninformed, mendacious, duplicitous self out to dry when it serves their purpose. That includes his grifter children and in-laws.

“Trump made separate appeals to the director of national intelligence, Daniel Coats, and to Adm. Michael S. Rogers, the director of the National Security Agency, urging them to publicly deny the existence of any evidence of collusion during the 2016 election.

Coats and Rogers refused to comply with the requests, which they both deemed to be inappropriate, according to two current and two former officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private communications with the president. “

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141781437

Edited my post to say lies and liars always receive their due even if it takes more than a hundred years. Case in point...Robert E. Lee...historians are correcting the myth that he was a great general and hero...quite the opposite in fact and like DT, incompetent. Now it seems that this may be a time for the truth to work it's way out. Hopefully, the DT truth will come to the fore for everyone to see much, much, sooner than the general.


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Response to Me. (Reply #32)

Mon May 22, 2017, 09:12 PM

39. That's outstanding!

I wondered how much more would come out while the clown is overseas. It should be wild when he returns.

I've heard that several people in the White House are retaining lawyers, including those who want to avoid being sucked in. And morale is so low. More, they are having trouble finding new people willing to join the administration. Gracious! This is such a strange time.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #39)

Mon May 22, 2017, 09:56 PM

40. 'They Say'

The reason Priebus and Bannon came racing back was because of this.

I wonder, have you seen the Mensch and Taylor Tweets etc. and what is your opinion of their reports.

Also...I was surprised by Dan Coats and his reply as I thought he was one of the diehard Cons.

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Response to Me. (Reply #40)

Tue May 23, 2017, 04:05 PM

57. Right.

Priebus and Bannon ....what a pair. Bannon is by far the worst of the two. While he may escape legal consequences, he will be humiliated as this unfolds.

I'm aware of the Mensch and Taylor tweets, etc. I tend to like them both, but I think they get ahead of themselves on some issues. I'm not aware of who their sources are, but am 100% sure they erred in one recent report. But that happens in this type of situation, as Woodward and Bernstein learned.

Coats is a very conservative fellow. He sees a sinking ship, and is not inclined to stay on it!

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #57)

Tue May 23, 2017, 05:39 PM

69. Given The Disputes Here On DU Regarding Taylor & Mensch

I find your response to be enormously interesting and that I absolutely agree with you.

I do know from past experience Libby/Rove that things can go awry and end up not as expected.

I’m thinking about a friend whom I trusted completely, who met up with a young DA who used to go out with her daughter and with whom she had a good relationship. She hadn’t expected to see him but they sat and had coffee. He then told her he was currently working in DC on the case. She mentioned her intense interest in the case, and while not saying so, managed to convey to her that Rove was definitely, in the crosshairs. And what came of it….nothing. She was as confused as I but as she told me, neither of us was privy to what was happening behind the scene and what deals were made. It is always so, I think. You just never know.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 06:21 PM

33. Sing him on out, Pete Seeger and the Weavers!

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Response to Tanuki (Reply #33)

Mon May 22, 2017, 10:35 PM

42. This, Tanuki!

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Response to Tanuki (Reply #33)

Tue May 23, 2017, 04:11 PM

59. Beautiful!

Thank you!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 06:54 PM

35. You're like a DU port in a storm, H20 Man.

My old head is still spinning from last week's Trump News....then BAM!, he does something else. Joy Reid has a "Moment of Maxine", DU has a Moment of Waterman. Thanks for the sanity you're spreading around.

Trump's time so far has been like a 120 mph car chase.Stolen car. Took a left on Maple Street. Ran a red light on Main Street. Flew off the ramp just past the gas station. Flipped it by the high school.Brought it back under control. Hit a pedestrian on the bridge. Tore down the toll booth. Going in wrong direction on I-95.

There seems to be no end to it and about 2/3 of the country is exhausted.

Trump somehow got hold of a gazillion mob-friendly cement blocks and built a wall using lies as his filler. It's going to crash on his peroxided head and maybe even crush a couple of his tiny fingers. Believe me. It's going to be quite interesting. Bigly.

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Response to democrank (Reply #35)

Tue May 23, 2017, 04:16 PM

60. Thanks!

As I watch Trump, and hear others report on his behavior, my mind goes back to the days where in staff meetings, we would diagnose what mental illness, personality disorder, and/or organic brain damage an individual had. With Trump, a significant amount is obviously an entrenched personality disorder -- one that causes others, not Donald, to suffer. And this can result in episodes of psychosis, under unusual stress. But it really appears that organic decay could be involved.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 10:34 PM

41. Thanks for this as always. I read it aloud to my husband....

I have to go get Nance's book soon.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #41)

Tue May 23, 2017, 04:20 PM

61. Thanks!

I'm looking forward to some of the books that will be coming out in the next year! (grin) I have a part of my library for books by and about US presidents, and had decided to never get a Trump book. Even if someone paid me to accept it. But under the current circumstances, I imagine that his downfall will provide me some pleasurable reading!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue May 23, 2017, 09:10 AM

43. Change, in people and in institutions is slow. So frustrating.

So thank you, H2O Man. So good to be reminded of that truth.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #43)

Tue May 23, 2017, 04:24 PM

63. So true!

While I dislike VP Pence, and had worried that he might be worse than Trump in some ways, I'm confident that this process will damage him, as well. I'm surprised that anyone accepts the bit about firing Flynn because he lied to Pence. That's simply not true, of course, and the only "evidence" of it is that the White House claimed it to be true.

Toxic industrial waste dumps tend to create a large plume. Toxic administration do, too.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #63)

Tue May 23, 2017, 05:31 PM

68. I love the metaphor.

Toxic waste administrations, like toxic waste dumps, create a large plume.

Can't believe anyone believes the lie that Comey was fired for harming Hillary's campaign, either.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue May 23, 2017, 11:12 AM

49. I think, he actually believed that as POTUS he could bully Mexico into paying for the wall.

1. Trump would LOVE to leave a huge landmark with his name attached to it.

2. Trump had a totally wrong impression what it's like to be POTUS. He thought he would merely be the new boss and take over a functioning administration. He thought that he would give undisputed orders. He thought that a powerful nation such as the US could simply bully other nations into doing whatever he wants.

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Response to DetlefK (Reply #49)

Tue May 23, 2017, 04:28 PM

64. Valid points.

Thank you. I still think he knew he was full of shit about the wall, but recognize that others make equally (or more) valid points on his desire to build a landmark for himself.

Trump will go down in history, just not in the manner he deluded himself into believing possible.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue May 23, 2017, 11:39 AM

51. Humpty Trumpy - just for fun

Humpty Trumpy sat on a wall
Humpty Trumpy had a Great Fall.
All White House sources and all White House aides
Can't clean up the mess of this vile rotten egg.

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Response to moonseller66 (Reply #51)

Tue May 23, 2017, 04:29 PM

65. Very good!

Thank you for that!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue May 23, 2017, 12:59 PM

52. One gigantic deplorable.....

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Response to pbmus (Reply #52)

Tue May 23, 2017, 04:29 PM

66. Yikes!

Thank you!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue May 23, 2017, 04:24 PM

62. Excellent summary.

Particularly cogent is the point made about the intelligence community.

These are chickens coming home to roost in more ways than one. But what is going on is the destabilization of our domestic government by the so-called spooks. This will probably hurt us a bit more before things get better.

I only hope our surviving institutions can help rid us of our autocratic blight and that we won't require a revolution to maintain our freedoms. I have been encouraged by latest Supreme Court rulings.

Kushner is a weak link. They should bring the most pressure against him to see if he will flip. Flynn is a military guy -- he has the fortitude to wait things out in discomfort. But pretty Jared -- no. He'll try to make a deal.

Great post. I think those inside the WH will help tear down that wall.

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Response to Tatiana (Reply #62)

Tue May 23, 2017, 04:39 PM

67. Interesting points.

I agree fully that there are risks when the intelligence community seeks to overthrow a US politician or social activists. And, as a rule, I am opposed to it. Nixon was the one exception, though even in that case, Felt et al were not doing so for the same reasons that people like myself wanted Dick impeached.

In this case, there are two closely related factors that I think are encouraging. First, the intelligence community is attempting to exercise some of the nation's foundational strengths. And second, the grass roots is extremely active, and appears ready to remain so.

Kushner is indeed a weak link. He's a softy. However, Flynn isn't really a tough guy .....his bit is situational. He is going to turn on anyone and everyone he possibly can, to save himself. Even old Ollie North, who fancied himself tough, tried to save his own hide. But North attempted to maintain some degree of self-respect -- something Flynn is incapable of.

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