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McConnell/Ryan fully briefed by Brennan on Russia in Aug-They Went Along With TRUMP's OBSTRUCTION (Original Post) kpete May 2017 OP
Of course they knew. dalton99a May 2017 #1
Thank You! Kick for more exposure! furtheradu May 2017 #2
this is serious shit, but what will be done about it? padfun May 2017 #3
We already know that McTurtle went to Obama and threatened him LiberalLovinLug May 2017 #4
I say the same thing. Even Comey wanted to come Alice11111 May 2017 #16
After 8 YEARS Scarsdale May 2017 #40
Agree. Alice11111 May 2017 #57
Bingo! kentuck May 2017 #26
Definitely should have come out, imo. elleng May 2017 #33
Yes. Has been known for some time that McCONnell is complicit blocking info to state electoral Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #5
Brief them? They're accomplices! sandensea May 2017 #6
bingo! . . . . n/t annabanana May 2017 #7
They have been actively trying to weaken America Generic Brad May 2017 #35
What also sad about all that is: those cretins would be relegated to trailer parks and Idaho caves sandensea May 2017 #36
they are craven pigs barbtries May 2017 #8
Preznit Orin Hatch? SergeStorms May 2017 #9
Pussycat enid602 May 2017 #31
Better than the others, imo. elleng May 2017 #34
Hatch looks Scarsdale May 2017 #41
i look forward to the day these two fucks go down... spanone May 2017 #10
Wasn't Ryan against Trump at first... C Moon May 2017 #11
Correct. Don't think Ryan fully backed him until late in the GE -- October or so iluvtennis May 2017 #18
That always made me suspicious. C Moon May 2017 #19
$$$ from Russia Scarsdale May 2017 #42
Even knowing all this, McConnell willfully obstructed the Tanuki May 2017 #12
Mitch Scarsdale May 2017 #43
Of course, we knew this, but wow! When witnesses Alice11111 May 2017 #13
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow May 2017 #14
It only matters when and if the GOP base ever cares. Until then America gets destroyed bit by bit. TeamPooka May 2017 #15
Key word is "care." They believe, but don't care. Alice11111 May 2017 #17
Why the hell... Takket May 2017 #20
Harry Reid was screaming it at the top of his lungs for as long as he could. He was patted on the Hestia May 2017 #56
Of course they did.. did anyone expect Cha May 2017 #21
republican anti-American a-holes Achilleaze May 2017 #22
I , WE the People should be DEMANDING that they have to Testify turbinetree May 2017 #23
But... but... the DEEP STATE!!! THIS IS ALL AN INVENTION OF THE DEEP STATE!!! ehrnst May 2017 #24
Which Democrats were also briefed? Mr. Ected May 2017 #25
Dems did say plenty. No one cared--too busy watching the Trump clown show. nt SunSeeker May 2017 #29
They are all accessories to Shitler's crime. SunSeeker May 2017 #27
Those two are fully complicit liberal N proud May 2017 #28
This is Why Republicans Are Undermining Further Investigation into the Russian Scandal dlk May 2017 #30
Traitors. blue neen May 2017 #32
The Republicans exist only to cut taxes for the rich, things like treason are just a means to an end ecdab May 2017 #37
It was a coup Botany May 2017 #38
And Ryan was caught on tape malaise May 2017 #39
At first they denied that the conversation about Russian $ and Trump/Rohrabacher ever .... Botany May 2017 #44
Trapped malaise May 2017 #45
Can you imagine if the Clintons or Obama had done 1/10 of that crap .... Botany May 2017 #46
They'd have called for the execution squad malaise May 2017 #48
Both McConnell and Ryan knew ... I keep reposting this Botany May 2017 #53
As I have been saying: Orrin Hatch will be our first LDS Prez obamanut2012 May 2017 #47
The most interesting about Hatch for me malaise May 2017 #49
ikr obamanut2012 May 2017 #55
republicans will throw their moms over a cliff if it helps them win an election spanone May 2017 #50
Party before country. Still In Wisconsin May 2017 #51
Paul Krugman: Whats the Matter With Republicans? Botany May 2017 #52
If Trump goes down, McConnell and Ryan are going with him. Initech May 2017 #54
I think the Republican Party has been awash in Russian money since before Trump DefenseLawyer May 2017 #58
As more investigations are being performed bresue May 2017 #59
August? Their wallets were already stuffed with rubles bucolic_frolic May 2017 #60

furtheradu

(1,865 posts)
2. Thank You! Kick for more exposure!
Tue May 23, 2017, 03:40 PM
May 2017

Need to CLEAN HOUSE! ! !
&, of course, the SENATE! !!
Yes! Thanks, Kpete!

padfun

(1,786 posts)
3. this is serious shit, but what will be done about it?
Tue May 23, 2017, 04:04 PM
May 2017

Really, this needs some serious investigating and possible criminal charges.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,165 posts)
4. We already know that McTurtle went to Obama and threatened him
Tue May 23, 2017, 04:04 PM
May 2017

With turning it into charges of a partisan witch hunt right before the election if Obama said anything.

One of Obamas biggest mistakes. Its all hindsight sure, and he, like everyone else, thought Hillary was going to win regardless. So why tempt fate and throw them that ammunition that would have been fired, full guns blazing, from Fox News 24/7?

Obama was a terrific President, but he was also a play-it-safe politician. He was a pragmatic to a fault and thus taken advantage of because of that.

I know it wasn't just Obama's decision not to publicize it. I'm sure Democratic leadership personnel, maybe even those connected with Hillary's campaign, who knew about it encouraged him to keep his yap shut. But he was the President, he could have said, this is too important to keep quiet as its our nation's security and our democratic system that is at risk here. This goes beyond party loyalty.

And I also think it would have not been as detremental as those top Dems thought it would be. At least it would have exposed doubt in some true Trump believers. It would have evened the playing field that each was being investigated. And one for using an unsecured email server, and the other for treason. I think it would have been more than ok for the public to know earlier.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
16. I say the same thing. Even Comey wanted to come
Tue May 23, 2017, 05:02 PM
May 2017

Forward in a NYT op ed, and Obama stopped it. He didn't want to appear partisan, and he thought Hillary would win.
Very sad to think that he may have caved to McConnel's threats. I was thinking about this last night...I thought I might write him a letter and ask him to explain some of this in his book.

Then, there is also the matter of not making a recess Supreme Court appointment.

I miss Obama a lot and I have great respect for him, but I think he dropped the ball those last several months. I think it was inconceivable to him that DT could be elected.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
40. After 8 YEARS
Wed May 24, 2017, 07:34 AM
May 2017

of obstruction by the gop, President Obama should have told them to go to HELL. This is how McConnell kept insisting the next president will nominate a SC justice. He KNEW who that would be. His wife got a government job. I wonder what Lyin' Ryan got??

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,966 posts)
5. Yes. Has been known for some time that McCONnell is complicit blocking info to state electoral
Tue May 23, 2017, 04:05 PM
May 2017

In addition to this news, it has been known for some time now that McCONnell blocked transmission of information to state electoral commissions about hacking electoral systems until it was too late to do anything.

This news makes Ryan somewhat explicitly complicit too.

sandensea

(21,604 posts)
6. Brief them? They're accomplices!
Tue May 23, 2017, 04:07 PM
May 2017

This would be like investigating Ollie North's drug-running, and then briefing Poindexter and Poppy Bush.

They'd say: "thanks for the heads up. Keep us posted!"

Generic Brad

(14,272 posts)
35. They have been actively trying to weaken America
Tue May 23, 2017, 09:51 PM
May 2017

The Russian contingent teamed up with the Dominioinst end timers in the Republican coalition. One group tries to destroy America so their rich keepers destroy us economically and can eventually scoop up all our stuff for pennies on the dollar. The other group wants to destroy everything so Jesus will come back and save them.

Evil, venal and stupid. They consider themselves separate from us and have no qualms in causing us pain.

sandensea

(21,604 posts)
36. What also sad about all that is: those cretins would be relegated to trailer parks and Idaho caves
Tue May 23, 2017, 09:55 PM
May 2017

Except that too many in corporate America find them useful for their ends - i.e. to "drown government in a bathtub," as Newt the Glute so eloquently put it.

And Putin? Hey - if it hurts the U.S. he's all to happy to help.

barbtries

(28,770 posts)
8. they are craven pigs
Tue May 23, 2017, 04:36 PM
May 2017

with no use for democracy. they do not care about this country. i cannot get over how many people believe they do. how clear does it have to be that, as George Carlin said, "They don't care about you!"?

SergeStorms

(19,187 posts)
9. Preznit Orin Hatch?
Tue May 23, 2017, 04:36 PM
May 2017

Please, no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no

C Moon

(12,209 posts)
11. Wasn't Ryan against Trump at first...
Tue May 23, 2017, 04:38 PM
May 2017

then he suddenly changed his mind?
I could be mistaken, but I seem to recall that being the case.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
42. $$$ from Russia
Wed May 24, 2017, 07:39 AM
May 2017

was deposited into the RNC coffers. No doubt a lot of it made its way to Lyin' Ryan.

Tanuki

(14,914 posts)
12. Even knowing all this, McConnell willfully obstructed the
Tue May 23, 2017, 04:44 PM
May 2017

process of filling a Supreme Court vacancy until the Kremlin stooge's selection could be installed and corrupt our system of checks and balances for decades to come. I hope the traitorous vermin dies in prison.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
13. Of course, we knew this, but wow! When witnesses
Tue May 23, 2017, 04:49 PM
May 2017

see that our democracy is really threatened, as much as they prefer to stay out, they will come forward. This reminds me of when I did sex harassment cases, no witnesses would come forward, as they were afraid. However, if they knew the truth or had seen acts, when they saw the victim going down, they would finally come forward.

If Ryan and McConnell fall, as they should, I hope they die in jail.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
17. Key word is "care." They believe, but don't care.
Tue May 23, 2017, 05:06 PM
May 2017

Their attitude is the worst that can happen is we get Pence.

Takket

(21,529 posts)
20. Why the hell...
Tue May 23, 2017, 05:16 PM
May 2017

Last edited Tue May 23, 2017, 06:08 PM - Edit history (1)

Were all these meetings and warnings taking place and not one word of it ever got to the media.... BUT every time some Weiner (literally!!!!) so much as got a recipe in their email from Hillary it was headline news for a month???

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
56. Harry Reid was screaming it at the top of his lungs for as long as he could. He was patted on the
Wed May 24, 2017, 01:16 PM
May 2017

head, told he was leaving the senate anyway, so what does it matter to him? He really did try to warn us.

Cha

(296,875 posts)
21. Of course they did.. did anyone expect
Tue May 23, 2017, 05:36 PM
May 2017

anything other than complete obstruction to Democracy, and allegiance to a perverted asshole from those two?

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
22. republican anti-American a-holes
Tue May 23, 2017, 05:41 PM
May 2017

republicans are complicit in the treason of their republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief, Comrade Casino.

turbinetree

(24,685 posts)
23. I , WE the People should be DEMANDING that they have to Testify
Tue May 23, 2017, 05:43 PM
May 2017

under f***ing Oath to answer some question now.................obstruction of justice and Treason also for these two ass***** running around and saying they are patriots, ----------------really of whom







 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
24. But... but... the DEEP STATE!!! THIS IS ALL AN INVENTION OF THE DEEP STATE!!!
Tue May 23, 2017, 06:06 PM
May 2017

Because if there is anything the deep state wants to do is to turn documents and memos over to committees.

I want to smack every single "deep state is the puppetmaster of all this" foil hat asshole upside their 4chan groups with this.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
25. Which Democrats were also briefed?
Tue May 23, 2017, 06:11 PM
May 2017

Because that will be the right's counterargument in this...."The Democrats knew too but didn't say a thing".

Slimy mofos.

liberal N proud

(60,332 posts)
28. Those two are fully complicit
Tue May 23, 2017, 06:27 PM
May 2017

They choose party power over country. Patriots they are not and I hope that history reflects upon them accordingly.

dlk

(11,514 posts)
30. This is Why Republicans Are Undermining Further Investigation into the Russian Scandal
Tue May 23, 2017, 07:20 PM
May 2017

McConnell and Ryan are in it up to their eyeballs. So is Pence.

ecdab

(930 posts)
37. The Republicans exist only to cut taxes for the rich, things like treason are just a means to an end
Wed May 24, 2017, 04:58 AM
May 2017

malaise

(268,718 posts)
39. And Ryan was caught on tape
Wed May 24, 2017, 06:42 AM
May 2017

covering this up
Report: Top GOP Lawmaker Was Recorded Saying He Thought Trump Was on Putin's Payroll
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/05/mccarthy-trump-russia-payroll
<snip>

"There's two people I think Putin pays: [Rep. Dana] Rohrabacher [R-Calif.] and Trump," McCarthy said, according to the Post, which reports that it obtained and verified a recording. (A spokeman for Rohrabacher denied the allegation; Trump has also denied any coordination with Russia.)

Spokesmen for Ryan and McCarthy told the Post that the exchange was meant as a joke, and there's no evidence in the story that McCarthy was aware of any evidence to support the claim that Trump or Rohrabacher was on the Russian payroll. Regardless, the conversation provides some insight into what GOP congressional leaders apparently thought about candidate Trump, who by then had essentially secured the Republican presidential nomination.

The Post published this story just as news was breaking that the Department of Justice had appointed a special counsel to investigate ties between Trump's presidential campaign and Russia.
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It was not a joke - it was a coup

Botany

(70,449 posts)
44. At first they denied that the conversation about Russian $ and Trump/Rohrabacher ever ....
Wed May 24, 2017, 09:11 AM
May 2017

.... happened, then they said the transcript of the conversation was wrong, and then
when they were told about the tape recording they said it was a joke.

**********

NY Mag. The case for why Paul Ryan really thinks Russia pays Trump.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/05/the-case-for-why-paul-ryan-really-thinks-russia-pays-trump.html

Last night, the Washington Post reported on a 2016 conversation, between members of the House Republican leadership team, concerning Donald Trump’s shady ties to Russia. “There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” said Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy. “No leaks … This is how we know we’re a real family here,” replied House Speaker Paul Ryan.

It is possible, as the Post acknowledges, that the comments were made in jest. The transcript records laughter all around. But there are several reasons to suspect that McCarthy and Ryan were speaking honestly about their suspicion that Trump received money from Putin. First, spokesmen for Ryan and McCarthy insisted the comments were a joke only after they forcefully denied the conversation ever took place at all and then were told a recording existed. The fallback explanation has less presumptive credibility when the initial explanation has been debunked.

snip

And fifth, Trump, Ryan, and McCarthy are all cooperating to hide Trump’s financial information. House Democrats have introduced bills to require the president to disclose his tax returns, which could reveal his financial relationship with Moscow. Ryan and McCarthy could approve those if they wanted to. Instead, they are supporting Trump by quashing them. Whether and to what extent Trump has gotten income from Putin cannot be known because Ryan and McCarthy want it not to be known.

“No leaks, all right?” Ryan says to his fellow Republicans in the recording. “This is how we know we’re a real family here … What’s said in the family stays in the family.”

Botany

(70,449 posts)
46. Can you imagine if the Clintons or Obama had done 1/10 of that crap ....
Wed May 24, 2017, 09:14 AM
May 2017

.... the shitstorm that would have happened.

malaise

(268,718 posts)
48. They'd have called for the execution squad
Wed May 24, 2017, 09:34 AM
May 2017

They had nothing on her and still made it into a business. Were it not for the coup, they would have started impeachment hearings against her already.

Botany

(70,449 posts)
53. Both McConnell and Ryan knew ... I keep reposting this
Wed May 24, 2017, 10:19 AM
May 2017

Both McConnell and Ryan knew

God only knows how wide and deep this corruption goes. Ryan is in a
CYA mood right now.

How did McConnell know if he waited until after the election he would have
somebody else to vote for for SCOTUS?


https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028671176 (NY Times Article)

Paul Ryan & Republican Establishment Used Hacked Info From Russia Against Democrats:

Let's not forget that a super PAC tied to Paul Ryan used material provided by Russia's hacking of the DNC and DCCC.

It was known that Russia had stolen material from the DNC and DCCC and a Paul Ryan Super PAC and as well as other Republican groups used it.

It wasn't just Hillary Clinton being attacked. It wasn't just Trump benefiting. There's potentially more collusion than just that between Trump's team and Russia.

********
It was a coup and we had and still have treason.

obamanut2012

(26,047 posts)
47. As I have been saying: Orrin Hatch will be our first LDS Prez
Wed May 24, 2017, 09:14 AM
May 2017

And, tbh, I would rather have him than Tillerson or Ryan.

This is how horrible things are, when I am hoping for a President Hatch!

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
58. I think the Republican Party has been awash in Russian money since before Trump
Thu May 25, 2017, 07:47 AM
May 2017

Ever came along. The Koch Brothers have lots of ties to Russian oil.

bucolic_frolic

(43,063 posts)
60. August? Their wallets were already stuffed with rubles
Thu May 25, 2017, 11:15 PM
May 2017

mums the word, they were silent about it and wouldn't be seen with Trump

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