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Why Trump will likely resign as Mueller pursues 'Putingate' (Original Post) L. Coyote May 2017 OP
Blanket pardons for all on the way out. Dawson Leery May 2017 #1
If impeachment is started, and some say it is in fact so already, then Trump cannot pardon L. Coyote May 2017 #2
Afaik, pardons can't stop impeachment, but impeachment can't stop pardons unblock May 2017 #3
I hope you are right, L Coyote. brer cat May 2017 #4
That's why it's so important to get an independant investigation. BigmanPigman May 2017 #5
Thanks. nt brer cat May 2017 #6
Plus, Trump cannot pardon people for state convictions. Those are coming too. L. Coyote May 2017 #7
+1 dalton99a May 2017 #8
Schneiderman seems to be determined to do all he can. brer cat May 2017 #9
Please summarize/excerpt, as one usually would, since it is an article. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #10
Just click the link. L. Coyote May 2017 #11
Your snideness misses the point. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #12

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
2. If impeachment is started, and some say it is in fact so already, then Trump cannot pardon
Wed May 24, 2017, 12:15 AM
May 2017

anyone who is a co-conspirator. Impeachment is initiated by anyone declaring on the House floor that the President should be impeached, per what i've seen recently. That happened already. So pardons may not hold up in court at this point.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
3. Afaik, pardons can't stop impeachment, but impeachment can't stop pardons
Wed May 24, 2017, 12:21 AM
May 2017

The pardon power doesn't extend to stopping the impeachment process but the impeachment process doesn't prevent pardons (from criminal liability) unless and until the the president is removed by the senate.

brer cat

(24,559 posts)
4. I hope you are right, L Coyote.
Wed May 24, 2017, 12:29 AM
May 2017

My concern is that a resignation by trump would take the wind out of the sails of the various investigations, and they need to be completed. Trump is hardly the only one who must be exposed. Pence for sure is involved and probably Ryan and McConnell.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
5. That's why it's so important to get an independant investigation.
Wed May 24, 2017, 01:00 AM
May 2017

A special prosecutor has many limits. A separate, independant bipartisan investigation is a must in order to fully investigate any and all of them and in a timely manner. Indivisible has planned rallies/marches for June 3 called #Marchfortruth for this very reason. They are going to be in 110 cities besides Wash DC. You can Google it and see if there is one near you.

brer cat

(24,559 posts)
9. Schneiderman seems to be determined to do all he can.
Wed May 24, 2017, 01:36 AM
May 2017

I would guess he has the best shot at the trump mafia.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
12. Your snideness misses the point.
Wed May 24, 2017, 09:51 AM
May 2017

If you can't sell the link with summary / excerpt I'm not inclined to spend the time to follow it.

It's simple. If you are writing for your own benefit then don't think of helping the readers.

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