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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI am in London right now.
Woke up yesterday to the horror of the Manchester massacre. The whole U.K. Is on the highest terror threat level, critical. Husband is here on business so we haven't been out and about much. Just dinners with friends and colleagues. Our plan is to start doing tourist things tomorrow. Have heard many anti-terror forces will be dispatched across the country.
Feeling a little nervous. 😟
shenmue
(38,506 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)I'm sure everything will be fine, still...
Rhiannon12866
(205,161 posts)Since British police are normally unarmed. Stay safe and enjoy your trip!
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)I haven't seen any yet but probably will when I go out later. This is normally such a calm, friendly place that it is very unnerving,
Rhiannon12866
(205,161 posts)Even in London, people were relaxed and friendly, even the cops on the streets. The first time I was there, I was a teenager and my friend and I had our pic taken with a smiling British bobby wearing the traditional hat. Things are understandably tense right now, but the increased security should make you feel better. I hope you're able to enjoy yourself since it is a great place to visit, so much to see and do!
cwydro
(51,308 posts)My dad grew up in London. My family visited there often. We were there during the IRA terrorism times. Except for myself and my sister, my entire family lives in the British Isles.
London is a wonderful city, and the British are not an easily cowed people. Enjoy your stay and have a Guinness for me.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)😋 Thanks for the positive thoughts!
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)right after the terror attacks in 2005. Armed police everywhere, especially railroad stations. I told my three adult children who were with me, that the alert is on high right now so it is safer than ever. I grew up in Liverpool, about 40 miles from Manchester. So very sad about that cowardly attack.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)I always think about it in connection with the Beetles!
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)Lots to see and do there. Ask a cab driver to take you for the day, and see the surrounding area, too.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)Train service to Liverpool is fast, and not expensive. There is also bus service, to see the countryside on the way. Ferry rides across the Mersey, Maritime Museum, Speke Hall, where slaves once were smuggled to the river and freedom. Beatles Museum, and of course Beatles Tour. Go to the Cavern where the "boys" started their careers.
Myrddin
(327 posts)...jump on a train, you'll be in Manchester, or Liverpool, 2 hours later. Do both of them, they are only 30 miles apart.
You will experience a 'buzz' that London cannot offer. Embrace the Mancs and the Scousers, they will show you their amazing cities.
I don't know your age group MoonRiver, but if you have any admiration for Brit music from the 50's to the present day, if you compile a list of your 20 fave bands I can nearly guarantee 12+ will be from those two cities.
Neither are London, they both have their own individual flair. Go. Enjoy!
luvMIdog
(2,533 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Cha
(297,136 posts)It is just so tragic. The face of that little 8 year old child is especially heart wrenching. 😢
unc70
(6,110 posts)Have been in England a week plus. Lots more "machine gun" style arms around Westminister and such yesterday. Still pretty low key versus back during the IRA bombings. I was here for the 1993 City bombing, Warrenton for the big one there.
Enjoy your stay. The weather is lovely.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Safe travels unc70!
CarrollDavis
(3 posts)Wow! Cool!
Botany
(70,489 posts)n/t
BTW England in May? Go to Kew Gardens!
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)We're sightseeing with another couple so will have to check with them first. But thanks for the tip!
Botany
(70,489 posts)The British Museum, Churchill's WW II Office, and the British Museum of Natural History
imanamerican63
(13,775 posts)But don't let it hamper the sites and sounds of a wonderful place
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)This weather is just too wonderful to keep me inside! One thing is though that some tourist attractions are closing for security. Hope that is over tomorrow
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)Very interested in how the safeguards are being implemented in the tourist vs business vs diverse residential communities.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)There are no police or armed military here. Will find out about the tourist areas tomorrow.
JCMach1
(27,556 posts)Weirdly never a better time to be a tourist. No lines!!! Plus super good security.
genxlib
(5,524 posts)London is my favorite place in the whole world. Something about the City energizes me like no other place in the world. I could totally live there if I could swing a salary to afford it.
I went to school there for a year in the mid 80's. It was a pretty tense time for terrorism in Europe then too. Perhaps we were too young to know better but we managed to survive.
My advice to you is live your best life. Go do what you want to do. Life is too short to hide from assholes.
riversedge
(70,186 posts)Lotusflower70
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Embrace the moment. I was in Paris during the attack and decided I needed to do something to honor those that were lost or survived. So find a way to pay tribute and that could very well be enjoying the whole tourist thing. Savor and appreciate the blessings. Stay safe.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)suffragette
(12,232 posts)It's a calm oasis with a wonderful collection.
http://courtauld.ac.uk/gallery
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)In London, Manchester, Paris, New York, or Peoria.
On any given day, no matter how soon or late after an incident somewhere.
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)And not leaving one's home doesn't keep one safe - stairs to fall down, rugs to slip on, electrical faults, etc.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Folks forget that IRA campaign went on for decades ...this is not new for the UK like it is for US
malaise
(268,913 posts)Go to a cricket match
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)house and St. Paul's (go to the crypt for Wren's tomb).
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g186338-d2356480-Reviews-The_London_Silver_Vaults-London_England.html
Holds not only incredible pieces of silversmith craft, but a Magna Carta, a letter from Queen Elizabeth I to Essex, a letter from George III to "my great friend" George Washington, etc.!!
Don't miss the Tower and Crown jewels!
Shop at Harrod's and on Diana's favorite street nearby, Beauchamp Place (and see the Mews area)!
Visit the fancy shops off Piccadilly on Regent St!
Take a "Jack the Ripper" night tour (meet at the Tower Tube)!
Cross over to Southwark!
Have a drink at The George!
Do not miss the TWO Guard changings: FIRST the Queen's Horse Life Guards, in Whitehall** at the far end of St. James's Park (these horses are spectacular!); then hustle afterwards through the Park to Buckingham Palace to see the "regular" Changing of the Guard!
Walk up to Covent Garden for lunch after visiting Piccadilly Circus!
And you must, above all, see everything inside Westminster Abbey. From Poets' Corner (Chaucer's tomb, as well as Dickens, etc. Not Shakespeare.) to the ornate Henry VII Chapel to the marble tombs of EI and Mary, queen of Scots, to the Stone of Scone---all simply amazing. To me, this is the pinnacle of Western Civilization.
http://www.westminster-abbey.org/visit-us
** Take a tour underneath to visit Churchill's war-time bunker and command center.
Must day-trips: Windsor (town, castle, AND Eton School); Hampton Court.
If time: Bath-Stonehenge-Salisbury. Oxford-Warwick Castle-Stratford (awesome extra = Blenheim Palace tour, Churchill's family home). Canterbury-Cambridge.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)British woman.. This was after 9/11, she told me that Americans are too afraid of everything...
"We had a 9/11 every night for 4 years." That woke me up a bit.