For the record: Mrs. Obama wore black and veil when meeting the Pope at the Vatican.

[dixiegrrrrl]

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pics here

https://tinyurl.com/l9f22sz

[Kingofalldems]

1. Here:

[NCTraveler]

5. Beauty and class.

Obviously not talking about the guy on the right.

[itcfish]

6. BTW

Michelle did look stunning

[dixiegrrrrl]

18. ty for posting that.

Things are not working well for me so far today.

[Eliot Rosewater]

2. Dumb, forcing women to wear black, dumb.

[itcfish]

9. Not forced

Formal dress is now normally reserved for diplomatic audiences. In the 1990s, a Roman Catholic priest in Ireland provoked a controversy by claiming that then-President of Ireland, Mary Robinson, had breached protocol by wearing jewellery and by not wearing black nor a mantilla for an audience with Pope John Paul II. The Vatican subsequently pointed out that the traditional form of dress worn for papal audiences was no longer obligatory.

[itcfish]

3. Yes But that

was with Razi, did she wear black with Pope Francis? Didn't see any photos.

[demmiblue]

4. Yes. n/t

[GoCubsGo]

11. Yes and No. But, their meetings were not at the Vatican.

She met him on an airport tarmac, and at the White House. She wore pale blue and black, respectively. I don't think that she wore black at the WH visit specifically because it was the Pope. Rather, it was likely because she does tend to wear a lot of black. She also was bare-headed at that meeting.

[chillfactor]

7. But in their initial greeting....

she wore a beautiful bright blue dress.

[WePurrsevere]

12. The black and veil is traditional only when meeting inside the Vatican...

if I remember correctly.

Michelle's bright blue dress was when Pope Francis visited the US I believe.

[DefenseLawyer]

8. Are retired Popes still infallible?

Cause, if so, that's a nice retirement perk.

[TexasProgresive]

13. There have only been 2 infallible papal

Statements ever. None in this century.

[LanternWaste]

15. Might want to hit the books on that particular topic

Might want to hit the books on that particular topic. You seem dramatically unprepared.

[DefenseLawyer]

16. I think I'll pass. Whatever you all want to do fine.

He's your retired Pope, not mine. So however that works, I'm sure it works for you.

[jberryhill]

19. Throw your miter into the ring next time

I'm going to run for Pope next time around.

As it turns out, it is not strictly required that one be a cardinal, and I looked over the rules which did not expressly state a candidate has to be Catholic.

So I'm gonna give it a whirl in the next Pope election. I may have the odds against me, but if you don't play, you can't win.

[GoCubsGo]

10. And, so did Hillary Clinton and Laura Bush.

As well as every other First Lady. You can see the photos lower down in the link. Queen Elizabeth wore one, as well, over her black hat.

[tazkcmo]

14. Yup.

I'm no fan of Melanoma but this is silly.

[jberryhill]

17. Kind of a double standard relative to Saudi

Not that I have any great fondness for the rules in Saudi, but neither Mrs. Obama nor Mrs. Trump wore a head cover in Saudi, but both did at the Vatican.

There are, of course, a lot of ways to look at that, given the rigidity of its enforcement in Saudi, etc.