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Fri May 26, 2017, 01:01 AM

Trump's popularity hovers a little below 40% but doesn't get much lower.

The Republicans will never move on Trump unless that number drops a lot more.
All the scandals so far are only circumstantial involving his associates. There's nothing solid to pin on Trump personally .

Will they ever present solid, documented evidence that implicates Trump directly?
If they don't I'm not sure that the 40% will ever drop much lower.

In 2018 Republicans will still hold the Senate, mathematically it's virtually impossible for Democrats to take over, and that could mean a full 4 years of Trump. Could the country survive that?

I can't feel complacent because we aren't nearly out of the woods yet.

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Reply Trump's popularity hovers a little below 40% but doesn't get much lower. (Original post)
Kablooie May 2017 OP
Binkie The Clown May 2017 #1
geek tragedy May 2017 #2
smirkymonkey May 2017 #8
Azathoth May 2017 #3
world wide wally May 2017 #4
Kablooie May 2017 #5
Cha May 2017 #6
MoonRiver May 2017 #9
SoCalDem May 2017 #7
Kentonio May 2017 #10
crazycatlady May 2017 #11

Response to Kablooie (Original post)

Fri May 26, 2017, 01:05 AM

1. If 40% of the population are genuinely morons, then maybe democracy doesn't actually work.

Maybe the human race is, collectively, too stupid to know what's in its own best interests.

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Response to Binkie The Clown (Reply #1)

Fri May 26, 2017, 01:30 AM

2. American culture is uniquely stupid.

 

there are no Tr*mps or Sarah Palins in Europe. Even the vile rw populists there still talk in complete sentences.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #2)

Fri May 26, 2017, 05:35 AM

8. That is a fact that is most distressing.

There really is something wrong with a large portion of the population in this country. Willfully ignorant, hateful and proud of it.

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Response to Binkie The Clown (Reply #1)

Fri May 26, 2017, 01:46 AM

3. They're not all morons. They have been systematically radicalized by conservative entertainment

Twenty-first century mass media is one of the most awesomely powerful things in human history, and right now a large sector of it is focused on seeing just how far into right-wing terrorist land they can push their audience.

These people are closed off from all reality-based information streams and have been relentlessly radicalized and hardened in their extremism by their alternate-fact information streams. They know Trump is a crook and they don't care; to them, that's "strength." They also know that their alternative facts don't line up with objective reality, and they don't care because there is strength in numbers. As with religion, it becomes "real" if enough people believe it. So they will confidently say that the Russia scandal is fake news, that Obama was born in Kenya, and that we found WMDs in Iraq, and when someone points out that isn't true, they will collectively sneer and say "look at the ratings."

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Response to Kablooie (Original post)

Fri May 26, 2017, 02:12 AM

4. Fox News

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #4)

Fri May 26, 2017, 03:22 AM

5. If Fox news started doing their job and reporting news instead of inventing it...

Would go a long way towards making th country whole again.

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Response to Kablooie (Original post)

Fri May 26, 2017, 03:27 AM

6. trump tweeting about himself in the future from 2014,,

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Response to Cha (Reply #6)

Fri May 26, 2017, 05:42 AM

9. Hahaha!

Good catch Cha! Our Buffon in Chief was anticipating his standing in the world! And yes we do need a president who's not a laughing stock. Bring her/him on!

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Response to Kablooie (Original post)

Fri May 26, 2017, 05:00 AM

7. The "Dirty Thirty" will always vote republican, and

7 or 8% of southern/rural racists/xenophobes/homophobes of any party tacked on gives him his support..Gerrymandering assures a republican house except for the rare upset here and there..

This is why we have such a hard time winning and getting anything done when we DO win.

Democrats always "cooperate" with republicans in office and republicans NEVER cooperate with Dems when we are in charge...

It sucks, but until our leaders realize that we have to be ruthless for at least 3 cycles if we ever do get control again, we will always suffer the consequences..

It makes me ill when I think of all the wonderful liberal voices that the public hardly got to hear over the last 3-4 decades, because our corporate media has set the default position as "middle/right" and our spokespeople were labeled as lefty kooks for the most part..

Shame on us all for letting it happen

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Response to Kablooie (Original post)

Fri May 26, 2017, 07:22 AM

10. I'm expecting it to bottom out around 30%

 

Nixon post-Watergate kind of level.

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Response to Kablooie (Original post)

Fri May 26, 2017, 08:39 AM

11. We won't take the Senate in 2018

I'm just throwing reality out there. The map is too difficult.

The statewide races we need to focus on are governor's mansions. We have a lot of termed-out GOP governors and the open seats are ripe for the picking. They are our first line of defense in redistricting. And governor's races are not gerrymandered.

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