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Fri May 26, 2017, 11:36 AM

Claude Taylor: Trump notified via a sealed target letter that he is a suspect in a GJ inv





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Reply Claude Taylor: Trump notified via a sealed target letter that he is a suspect in a GJ inv (Original post)
iluvtennis May 2017 OP
BumRushDaShow May 2017 #1
triron May 2017 #2
The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #3
grantcart May 2017 #4
DefenseLawyer May 2017 #7
grantcart May 2017 #5
The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #8
grantcart May 2017 #11
Demsrule86 May 2017 #13
triron May 2017 #6
flyingfysh May 2017 #9
The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #10
grantcart May 2017 #12
TheDebbieDee May 2017 #14

Response to iluvtennis (Original post)

Fri May 26, 2017, 11:37 AM

1. ...

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Response to iluvtennis (Original post)

Fri May 26, 2017, 11:37 AM

2. criminal? (not that we know he is)

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Response to iluvtennis (Original post)

Fri May 26, 2017, 11:39 AM

3. Yeah, right.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

Fri May 26, 2017, 11:40 AM

4. From some one that doesn't understand the basic separation of powers.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #4)

Fri May 26, 2017, 11:49 AM

7. Presidential immunity is not settled law

 

That being said, I am highly skeptical of this rumor.

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Response to iluvtennis (Original post)

Fri May 26, 2017, 11:46 AM

5. So


1) This is a federal grand jury? Doubt it, he controls all of the federal prosecutors

2) State/County grand jury? Unlikely


In the history of the US no President has been indicted by a Grand Jury out of respect for the Separation of Power clause of the Constitution. The "grand jury" for the President of the US is the House of Representatives.

This would be a terrible precedent if it were true because it would mean that grand juries could indict Democratic Presidents. If you think that actions like this work only against Republicans then you are very naive.

It is an ironic contradiction to Mensch's tweet however because she has already stated that an indictment is already in hand. I doubt either one of them are bright enough to realize that they are now contradicting each other in their effort to create fiction to drive their fans ardor.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #5)

Fri May 26, 2017, 11:52 AM

8. During the Watergate scandal Nixon was never indicted

even though a whole bunch of his minions were. Instead, the grand jury that indicted Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Mitchell, Colson, Strachan, Mardian, and Parkinson secretly named Nixon as an unindicted co-conspirator. The special prosecutor dissuaded them from an indictment of Nixon on the ground that a President can't be indicted until he leaves office because of separation of powers/executive privilege issues.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #8)

Fri May 26, 2017, 12:19 PM

11. Correct and had he been indicted it would have been dismissed

by the first judge they could find.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #11)

Fri May 26, 2017, 12:26 PM

13. From what I can tell it would not be dismissed. You could not try the president during

his presidency but after he leaves office you could. He can't pardon himself either.

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Response to iluvtennis (Original post)

Fri May 26, 2017, 11:46 AM

6. kick for visibility

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Response to iluvtennis (Original post)

Fri May 26, 2017, 12:15 PM

9. I would like to see some evidence for this

So far, I haven't seen any.

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Response to flyingfysh (Reply #9)

Fri May 26, 2017, 12:18 PM

10. Don't hold your breath.

Clyde and pal Louise Mensch are rumor-mongers who often can't even get their basic legal terminology straight. Why would anyone with real information they wanted to make public leak it to these guys and not to the Washington Post or the New York Times, media outlets that would actually be taken seriously?

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #10)

Fri May 26, 2017, 12:21 PM

12. but if you make a financial contribution it will improve

their chances of confirming what they are reporting.

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Response to iluvtennis (Original post)

Fri May 26, 2017, 01:56 PM

14. Not a lawyer but is it possible that the GJ

 

Was convened to hear evidence of a Trump financial crime committed before he was President? Maybe the GJ was convened by NY State AG...

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