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The distance between Donald Trump and his G7 partners was spelled out dramatically today when Theresa May and the leaders of Italy, France, Germany, Japan and Canada strolled the streets of Taormina, Sicily while he followed in a golf cart.
The six are planning to put pressure on Mr Trump over his opposition to free trade and efforts to combat climate change. They walked the 700 yards from the traditional G7 group photo, taken at a Greek amphitheatre, to a piazza in the hilltop town, but Mr Trump stayed behind until he could take a seat in the electric vehicle.
He had been the last to arrive for the photo, keeping the others waiting at the amphitheatre, which commands sweeping views over the Mediterranean.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/g7-leaders-take-a-stroll-but-trump-takes-a-golf-cart-hhprv8r7b
Link to tweet
leftstreet
(36,098 posts)er...
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)pnwmom
(108,955 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Didn't Henry have Scottish in his background, like Trump?
If we ask Trump, he'll probably tell us they're related.
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)and often on my computer, it's got a greenish cast.
I will concede that his tanner makes his skin look orangish.
ON EDIT: lately, it's getting close to yellow-white.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-stresses-unshakable-bond-us-israel-jerusalem-speech/story?id=47579721
TexasProgresive
(12,155 posts)That may be what is affecting the buffoon in chief. Syphilis tends to lie hidden for years-doing various bad things to one or more organ systems. Neurosyphilis affect the brain and/or spinal cord. Here's a list of possible symptoms:
Symptoms
Abnormal walk (gait)
Blindness
Confusion
Dementia
Depression
Headache
Incontinence
Inability to walk
Irritability
Numbness in the toes, feet, or legs
Poor concentration
Seizures
Stiff neck
Tremors
Visual disturbances
Weakness
I can think of several that he may be experiencing. It should be noted that there may not be any symptoms. Just a thought.
SCantiGOP
(13,865 posts)Has had good enough health care that an STD would have been selected and treated.
TexasProgresive
(12,155 posts)If he did not get a Wassermann test it could go unnoticed, and you know what we think of his GRRREEEAAAT doctor.
Hekate
(90,552 posts)Warpy
(111,139 posts)His doctors kept meticulous records and the mercury treatment was a horrible one that would have caused Henry to disappear for at least six weeks, something also not in the records.
It's one of the few things he didn't have. He survived smallpox, had chronic malaria, likely had type 2 diabetes, migraines, a chronic bacterial infection from a jousting injury, massive stasis ulcers on his legs and feet. Because of all this, he had the best in Tudor medical care, something that contributed to both his insanity and misery.
He lived fast and played hard in an age when medical treatment caused more than it cured. He survived all sorts of mishaps including having a horse fall on him. His body was beat up and he had plenty of raging infections that weren't syphilis to keep him in pain. Unable to keep up the young man's schedule of sports, his binge and comfort eating blimped him up to almost 400 pounds.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)The argument is that initial successful pregnancy and subsequent miscarriages/stillbirths indicate that he's passing along an infection. But only Anne Boleyn really fits the pattern (and Jane Seymour might have had she survived childbirth) Catherine of Aragon miscarries six months into the marriage, and at least half a dozen times more before the birth of Mary, then again a few more times. Personally I like the argument that RH or Kell sensitization explains the situation.
I can believe that the doctors would have kept mercury off the books, but ambassadors were professional crotch sniffers, and since their letters are full of the king's capability, the menses of Henry's queens, etc I have no doubt that if Henry had syphilis symptoms we'd know all about it from their letters.
Warpy
(111,139 posts)which would have allowed a wife a successful first pregnancy followed by miscarriages. Unfortunately for that theory, Mary was from Catherine of Aragon's fourth pregnancy of seven. Also, he had two living children by Mary Boleyn, Anne's older sister. It seems that marrying a woman ensured failure since he had children with a few mistresses, although he acknowledged only one.
And yes, the doctors would certainly have noticed the symptoms of a first infection and the appearance of tertiary syphilis and there wasn't a word written about any of it.
+100
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I thought he was supposed to have "high stamina". Hah! He can barely get through the day without a few naps, and that's when he doesn't have to walk anywhere.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)She's low energy = I'm low energy
She's corrupt = I'm corrupt
I care about average Americans = I don't give a shit about you or anyone else
And that's not the surprising thing to me. What gets me is the extent, the limitlessness, of both his projection and his followers' gullibility.
Jane Austin
(9,199 posts)We fixed the election.
furtheradu
(1,865 posts)Lazy oaf..
Kept every one waiting..
Making it all about him, as usual.
Rude & obnoxious, always inadequate & inappropriate. ALL WAYS..ALWAYS.
kpete
(71,961 posts)JDC
(10,114 posts)izzybella
(236 posts)so that he didn't decide to randomly chat with the other leaders.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,586 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)Low energy and no stamina are just dying to be said.
I hadn't thought to add "sad" at the end, though. That was a nice finale.
malaise
(268,693 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)I'm nowhere near a tv, darn it.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)But his low energy does make me sad.
Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)what disability has he admitted to?
The only one I have observed is his self-serving prickishness that pervades every area he touches.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)3catwoman3
(23,946 posts)..."self-serving prickishness," there should be.
Maybe we can arange for him to get sucked into one of the jet engines on Air Force One. There is a code for this - V97.33
There is one he already qualifies for - R46.1 - Bizarre Personal Appearance
Chellee
(2,091 posts)Run over by a golf cart.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)The constant sniffing. The unhealthy eating. Having to wear orange powder to give his face some color. The hair dye.
I can't believe that people fell for Trump's meme that HILLARY was the unhealthy one! That's straight out of Rove's playbook. I saw him talk about this on a tv show. You take your OWN weakness and accuse your opponent of having that weakness before they can point out that YOU have that weakness. Then if they point out that that's YOUR weakness, it just sounds like they're being defensive.
We need younger candidates in the future. Mature, but not THIS old. And definitely not someone who wants to go back to the 1950s!
MontanaMama
(23,295 posts)he is out of his league. I think he has a serious inferiority complex. Doesn't play well with others. SAD!
justhanginon
(3,289 posts)last few months as a president he actually is inferior and this country has suffered through some doozies. In fact he seems inferior even as a sentient human being. I cannot, in all honesty, think of any good reason he continues to exist.
MontanaMama
(23,295 posts)Even mosquitos and ticks have a purpose. Haven't found 45's yet. You've got me thinking.
kimbutgar
(21,055 posts)They both appear to dislike him and have awkward looks on their faces. Justin looks so cool with the Japanese Leader and Macron. The guy next to May seems to look at chump with disgust.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)He wore painful braces in order to stand and present an illusion. That we still look for that and ridicule it's absense just shows how ableist our culture still is.
Everyone who lives long enough will experience physical and mental decline. It's kind of superficial to not acknowledge that this is natural in advancing years. The real stuff is this administation's agenda.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)It has been established that sexism directed at republican women is okay with many. Where is the line where we finally say bigotry is never okay?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,586 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)I hope you are aware that that is what facilitates the acceptance of it towards other targets. Including your friends and even their children. It's never okay.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,586 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)that exploiting racism is a racist action? And likewise, sexism, bigortry towards LGBT, and anti-semitism should also be called out? If that is the case, why is it okay to exploit ableism?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,586 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,908 posts)AFAIK there's no prohibition against lazy-ism.
Ligyron
(7,616 posts)Ya beat me to it. His Dr. says he's healthy - the healthiest man to ever hold the Presidency.
So he's just plain lazy and out of shape, he has no physical disabilities.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)I don't really care about ANYTHING trump has...just because I detest him does not automatically make me a hater of orange people as a whole or any other person who is disabled!
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)The argument I am seeing is that since Rs exploited ableism to try to tarnish Hillary, it is okay to do it to 45. My point it that exploiting bigotry is never okay. Limited mobility and age are what people are ridiculing here.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Last edited Sat May 27, 2017, 02:00 PM - Edit history (1)
you can't criticize it if someone says it about me without being a hypocrite. Enabling bigots is bigotry itself. Ableism is bigotry based on ability. If it's okay to direct it at one person you have zero credibility to criticize what was said about Hillary or when 45 mocked the disabled reporter.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)It's way worse here because people here are supposed to be inclusive and respectful of marginalized people and their experiences. Unfortunatly ableism is an acccepted bigotry here.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)...he wants to take away YOUR disability check...and give it to a billionaire...you like that idea?
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)That was my objection. But as many of us have noticed haters gonna hate.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)trump loves him some able bodied folks and hates the disabled...and you accuse ME of ableism
My best friend is on oxygen 24/7 and though she can walk a few steps needs to be wheeled in a chair wherever she needs to go anywhere...so don't talk to me...talk to trump!
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Where have I heard that one before? Showing disdain towards a person based on perceived diminished physical capacity is clearly claiming elevated status or value based on ability.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)good riddance
Hekate
(90,552 posts)What's wrong with you? Red Don is completely unfit to hold office. Pick a category, any category. No one gives a shit that he's old -- but his brains are turning to mush, and his dad had Alzheimer's at this point in his own life. He belongs in the care of his family, and nowhere near the Oval Office.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)things, but leave race out of it. Itis irrelevant.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)45's physical limits should be left out of it.
Hekate
(90,552 posts)Your arguments are specious at best, but I take note of your persistence
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)be reasonably healthy. He knew he was taking on a taxing job. As he said though, this is hard work. GW said about the same thing.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"physical limits should be left out..."
What specifically leads you to allege they are physical limits rather than mere laziness?
Have we seen additional evidence of these limitations? If so, what and when?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,586 posts)being the healthiest president EVER and accused Hillary of being weak and having no stamina. He's 71 and overweight, so of course he isn't going to be dashing up a hillside, but he made a big deal about his great health and Hillary's alleged lack of it, so screw him and the golf cart he rode in on.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)They mocked our candidate unsing an exploitation of ableism and marginalized people so we get to be equalloy bigotted.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,586 posts)about his great health while sneering at Hillary's "lack of stamina." If Trump had a disability like FDR's nobody would make an issue of it. In fact, nobody would be making an issue of his age or weight if he hadn't made an issue of it (in reverse) himself.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)There is a clear effort among usually kind and decent people to tap into the ridicule and disdain directed towards people who have mental illness and people experiencing natural bodily decline. "If people think he's one of them, maybe they'll turn on him."
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,586 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)This thread is part of the same effort because the ridicule is of the speculation that he is impaired in a way that limits his ability to walk. Limitated mobility is one of the most universally recognized forms of disability. Did you ever notice whe universal disability icon?
Buns_of_Fire
(17,151 posts)*American Asshole Association.
He gives assholes a bad name.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)It's same mentality just a different target. If it's okay with someone, they are among those who turn it in any other direction. Not the best company, I would think.
BeyondGeography
(39,345 posts)Trump is our first President Body Shamer. He deserves every bit of scorn he gets on this front and then some.
Kaleva
(36,248 posts)Just as FDR excluded disabled people from the WPA. Similarly, I have heard women criticize other women for their own abuse, and people of color attack their peers. By all means participate if you like, but you will have no standing to object when it happens to you.
Kaleva
(36,248 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,153 posts)There's a big difference.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)45 is intellectually lazy, not very smart, thin-skinned, rude, a bigot.....
There are plenty of criticisms without resorting to ableism.
Tanuki
(14,914 posts)Last edited Sat May 27, 2017, 06:02 PM - Edit history (1)
I think the people on this thread are merely pointing out that someone who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones. I don't see Trump as someone who has a disability, but as someone who despite having "let himself go" over the past decades relentlessly mocks anyone who does not meet unrealistic ideals of beauty and fitness. He makes up lies about the putative low energy and lack of stamina on the part of those whose work habits he could never hope to equal and who could run rings around him any day of the week. He relishes his KFC and amazing, best-you-ever-saw chocolate cake and chooses not to exercise out of some crackpot notion that it would sap his vital energy. As a consequence of those choices, and in a public setting where he does not get to control the optics, it can be seen that he has allowed himself to become so deconditioned that he has to ride in a golf cart even for the short distance that his counterparts can easily walk. I honestly don't think that anyone would have made an issue out of it if he had not been so hypocritical in his cheap shots at others. I also think that equating this to FDR's post-polio paralysis is completely off base.
nicely stated
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)He rode in a gold cart rather than walked. So would a lot of people in that situation. Especially people with disabilities that limit their movement or balance. He was attacked over a very ordinary strategy used specifically by people who are aging or mobility impaired. The good for the goose argument fails.
It's an ideology that claims superiority based on bodily function. They tried exactly that with Hillary turning it back around to a different target does not change the fact that it is in the end the very same belief system claiming bodily superiority.
Hekate
(90,552 posts)We're not being "ableist" for pointing out HIS hypocrisy and unbelievable cruelty to others. Do you have any clue at all about what he did to his own flesh and blood for not living up to Daddy Trump's eugenic ideas of being an übermensch?
Google Donald Trump's disabled nephew health insurance. It will make your day if it doesn't make you puke.
Donald Trump is a vile excuse for a man who lied about his own (lack of) health and lies about everybody else's if it will serve him in the moment. Did Franklin Delano Roosevelt do that?
You are barking up the wrong tree -- and later on, you change the subject to racism and Ben Carson. Just to get this off my chest, he gets no free passes from me either. As someone else already said, "racist is as racist does." He may have once been a brilliant neurosurgeon, but on all other subjects he is an idiot.
onethatcares
(16,161 posts)anyone want to volunteer to hook him up to a 12v charger?
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,586 posts)One of those cheap ones that come with little made in China gadgets.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)TeamPooka
(24,205 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)I know many his age who can climb mountains, ride bikes,
walk...He is lazy and a glutten.
If Bernie, Obama or Hillary had been there at 71, they would have walked.
TeamPooka
(24,205 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)down that escalator, and started his great publicity stunt.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)There is no realistic comparison- except maybe Reagan.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Im not suggesting he be in great shape, but work out even 15 to 30 min a day, so you can walk w world leaders. He ran for Prez and he's the only one in recent history who doesn't exercise, and he needs it the most.
Disgraceful.
He should have prepared by just a bit of exercise. I have an aunt and uncle in late 80s who swim daily and ride horses a couple of times a week. Another aunt in her 90s walked w my daughter and I, from her house a few miles to see Hurst Castle , and then up and down all of those steps.
71. No excuse. Get your fucking butt in shape
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)nor is it the least bit typical of people in their 70s. The exception does not disprove the natural trend of aging which is followed by the majority of humans.
JohnnyLib2
(11,211 posts)To be honest, Trump is at the top of people in my long life of whom not "speaking ill " is very, very difficult.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)He is no doubt one of the most despicable individuals among the US citizenry if not the entire human race.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Butterflylady
(3,537 posts)was helping to build houses well into his eighties with Habitat for Humanity.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Carter is special. It Takes some effort to stay fit. 80s aren't the 20s, but my point is DT makes NO EFFORT, not even 15 min per day, regardless of his age. He himself admitted it.
Laffy Kat
(16,373 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)at taxpayer expense.
republican draft dodger in chief needs to stop living his deluxe gourmet suckupthegravy lifestyle off of honest, hard-working American taxpayers.
RKP5637
(67,086 posts)angstlessk
(11,862 posts)RKP5637
(67,086 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)angstlessk
(11,862 posts)Motley13
(3,867 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)She looks like she's thinking "How the hell did I end up walking beside this weirdo?"
procon
(15,805 posts)In the past, incoming presidents went off to to get a physical exam and the basic info was released so the American people knew their leader was healthy, or least taking steps to get there. Not Trump.
Look at him. He's 70 and given that he eats a bad diet loaded with fats, cholesterol, salt, sugar and starch, he must weigh... what? 300lbs, maybe 350lbs, or more? So he's got no choice but to cram his big fat lard ass into either a wheelchair or golf cart.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)SAD!
world wide wally
(21,738 posts)Lucky Luciano
(11,248 posts)Beartracks
(12,797 posts)underpants
(182,603 posts)I wonder if it's cocaine, or meth or both, that Benedict donald uses.
bucolic_frolic
(43,044 posts)or congestive heart failure?
Timmygoat
(779 posts)It's not just about his physical shape, I really think he has a mental problem, have you notice how he never gives a press briefing, he hardly ever speaks, never answers questions, I think he was the leaker on the Manchester bombing info, otherwise Tillerson would not have rushed to the UK to apologize. Also the Netanyu/Trump conference, where he wandered away with a blank look in his eyes and had to led back by aides. I think there is a lot they are not telling us.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)from meeting the Pope's boss...
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,739 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)but think how much worse things would be if we had the most qualified candidate who ever ran for the office but who owned a private server.
2 choices, fantastic wonderful future and worst possible human being who ever lived...good job America
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)to be sworn in as president before dying (really, I'm not making this up)
trump is deteriorating day by day, and the whole world is watching.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)What a ****in joke huh?
Where are all those right freaks now that our lardass-in-chief looks like he is going to keel over any minute?
ancianita
(35,932 posts)Kaleva
(36,248 posts)Botany
(70,447 posts)... .when do I wake up from this nightmare?
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)suffragette
(12,232 posts)In every instance in G7, Trump has worked at either being first or center of attention and creating distance between himself and the other leaders.
These are not the actions of an ally.
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)He is so embarrassing. God forbid he get some exercise.
Hekate
(90,552 posts)I wouldn't mind Red Don needing a golf cart if it were not for all the outrageous lying about himself and cruelty to others. After all, one of our greatest presidents was a survivor of polio. Trump, tho, is just disgusting.
meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)He said he had the "STA-mina" it takes "STA-mina" to be president and he had it. Hillary didn't have the "STA-mina"
I bet Hillary would have been walking with the group because she exercises and eats well. Unlike this blob who eats Big Macs, KFC and never exercises because the body has a finite amount of energy and exercising just uses it up that much faster
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Trump can barely stand after one trip.
Stinky The Clown
(67,761 posts)Low Energy
Sad
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)How much shame are we supposed to bear?
judesedit
(4,437 posts)oasis
(49,326 posts)"I'm all that" so he believes.
furtheradu
(1,865 posts)Thanks for this thread!
LeftInTX
(25,123 posts)I'm 60 years old and disabled. I was out there for almost 2 hours. I had a clipboard, a pile of flyers, my purse and a water bottle. I was fumbling through papers, looking for addresses and reading maps all while juggling my water bottle. I did this for over an hour, then I had to take a break in my car's A/C. I then moved my car and started another block. After that block, I was worn out and moved the car again. At this point, I could tell the heat was not working in my favor. I had to quit before I could finish the roster. But good gosh, Trump can walk 700 yds. If he can get around the WH, he can walk 700 yds.