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compsports

(91 posts)
Sat May 27, 2017, 01:07 PM May 2017

Phone Banking for Jon Ossoff/Perplexed

I was going to do some phone banking for the campaign but am perplexed at the script. In it, the caller is instructed to ask the person how he/she identifies politically and if it is mentioned they are a swing voter or Republican, they are instructed to end the call.

That boggles my mind since I feel no voter should be written off particularly since many Republicans and swing voters are against Trump. This article is also a perfect example of this.

https://thinkprogress.org/republicans-for-ossoff-9dce1541ccd5

If someone could shed some light on this, I would greatly appreciate it. I apologize in advance if I am missing something obvious.

Here is the link to the phone bank:

https://www.reddit.com/r/BlueMidterm2018/comments/68x7v3/ga06_and_quist_phonebanks/

Thanks!

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Phone Banking for Jon Ossoff/Perplexed (Original Post) compsports May 2017 OP
cold calling someone lapfog_1 May 2017 #1
this is the best strategy. drray23 May 2017 #2
That's standard GOTV phone banking strategy. MineralMan May 2017 #3
Agree. Wellstone ruled May 2017 #14
It's a better use of your time to engage the most likely voters and encourage them to turn out Dream Girl May 2017 #4
It's a proven thing that if you say, "Yes, I will go and vote for Ossoff," you'll actually be more Squinch May 2017 #5
Never worked in GA crazycatlady May 2017 #6
Near Election Day, strategy switches from persuasion to GOTV. Barack_America May 2017 #7
This isn't a persuasion script though because it is not asking them to engage with undecideds. This LBM20 May 2017 #10
I think that's what I said? Barack_America May 2017 #18
It sounds like this is a script for turning out Ossoff supporters and not a persuasion script. LBM20 May 2017 #8
Focus on turnout of Democrats. Don't waste time on anyone else. dalton99a May 2017 #9
They focus on turnout of voters ID'd as "friendly." That can also mean Indies and some moderate R's. LBM20 May 2017 #13
With Democrats, it's all about getting out the vote. athena May 2017 #11
That's contemporary politics. OrwellwasRight May 2017 #12
No, they do persuasion. This just might not be a persuasion script. Others may have those scripts. LBM20 May 2017 #15
Not really. OrwellwasRight May 2017 #20
Thanks compsports May 2017 #16
You are working to GOTV a majority of the time. NCTraveler May 2017 #17
The point of phone banking is to turn out your voters oberliner May 2017 #19
Campaigns do voter identification calls too. wildeyed May 2017 #21
What kind of smart political phone bank wastes time on cold calls? You call registered WinkyDink May 2017 #22

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
1. cold calling someone
Sat May 27, 2017, 01:10 PM
May 2017

and then engaging them in a political debate might win a few votes... but more likely to motivate the called person to get out and vote for the repuke. At least that would be my assumption.

Not to mention that the goal right now is to get out the base.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
2. this is the best strategy.
Sat May 27, 2017, 01:20 PM
May 2017

at this stage, you try to get people who would vote for you at the polls. its a waste of time to argue with others. you wont convince them. when we do phone banks we always try to get our people to polls not convince others.

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
3. That's standard GOTV phone banking strategy.
Sat May 27, 2017, 01:21 PM
May 2017

It saves time and lets callers move on to the next call. With this type of call, there's little chance of changing a person's mind. The goal is to get those who support the candidate to go and vote.

While it may seem odd, it has been tested and proven to be more effective to do it that way. I don't necessarily agree with the strategy, but have no facts to present for the alternative.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
14. Agree.
Sat May 27, 2017, 01:42 PM
May 2017

This type of scripting does work the best,been doing Phone Banking for years,and in the Second Round of Calls,one changes up the verbiage.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
4. It's a better use of your time to engage the most likely voters and encourage them to turn out
Sat May 27, 2017, 01:21 PM
May 2017

Your job is not to convince them of who to vote for on the phone. Waste of your time. I suppose is there were unlimited volunteers, some could attempt to engage republicans, but would take some skill and training to do it properly.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
5. It's a proven thing that if you say, "Yes, I will go and vote for Ossoff," you'll actually be more
Sat May 27, 2017, 01:21 PM
May 2017

likely to get off the sofa on the day and do the actual voting than if you had never told anyone you were going to vote for Ossoff. This is true for the people who were always planning to vote for Ossoff.

The previous poster is absolutely correct: you're not likely to change anyone's mind in a cold call, but you WILL make a difference in the numbers of people who vote for Ossoff if you get sympathetic voters to agree or pledge or whatever that they will go and vote for him on election day. Those who agree that they will vote for him are much less likely to let that kids soccer game or unexpectedly long meeting prevent them from voting on the day.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
6. Never worked in GA
Sat May 27, 2017, 01:24 PM
May 2017

But may states do not have partisan registration and everyone is 'independent'. Not sure about GA, but the April jungle primary makes me think they don't have it. It is used to help identify partisanship for future campaigns and to help voter targeting.

Swing voters should be targeted, but that's an error on the campaign (or organization doing an IE). That should be in the script.

 

LBM20

(1,580 posts)
10. This isn't a persuasion script though because it is not asking them to engage with undecideds. This
Sat May 27, 2017, 01:39 PM
May 2017

sounds like a script to make sure friendly voters go back and actually vote. This is a runoff election and turnout is almost always lower than the first vote. It sounds like they are working like hell to make sure all their friendly voters go back and vote. In this case, persuasion may be happening on other scripts simultaneously, or they may be saving persuasion calls for the last few weeks to mix in with final GOTV calls in order to lock down the win. It would make sense that their main objective right now is to make sure their friendly voters follow through on voting again in this runoff.

 

LBM20

(1,580 posts)
8. It sounds like this is a script for turning out Ossoff supporters and not a persuasion script.
Sat May 27, 2017, 01:34 PM
May 2017

There are three kinds of phonebank scripts. One is strictly for voter ID. That happens early in the campaign and it is where you simply ask the person whom he/she prefers. From those results you generate turnout scripts and persuasion scripts. For those who answered "undecided" during the ID calls, there comes a time for persuasion calls. It may be that right now they are trying to lock down their definite voters and make sure they know when and how they can vote and make sure they get to the polls. My bet would be that in the last few weeks before the election they will also generate persuasion lists to try to get at those swing voters, or some of that may be going on now and just being done by people with a different script. Sometimes these do happen simultaneously. The main objective is to ID your favorable voters and make sure they get to the polls. And that is probably their focus right now for this runoff special election.

 

LBM20

(1,580 posts)
13. They focus on turnout of voters ID'd as "friendly." That can also mean Indies and some moderate R's.
Sat May 27, 2017, 01:40 PM
May 2017

athena

(4,187 posts)
11. With Democrats, it's all about getting out the vote.
Sat May 27, 2017, 01:40 PM
May 2017

Research shows that personal contact, over the phone or at the door, makes it a lot more likely that a Democrat will go out and vote. The reality is that most Democrats work very hard; some have multiple jobs. For many of them, it's a major hassle to vote because they have to take time out of their already very busy day to do something they're not sure will make a difference. And the lines are always longer in areas that lean heavily Democratic. When you reach out to them and show that you really care, they realize their vote matters and that this is important.

The bottom line is that it's better to spend half an hour encouraging ten Democrats to go out and vote than to spend that half hour arguing with one or two Republican or undecided voters.

Like you, I was surprised when I first found out about this while volunteering for the 2012 Obama campaign. But the Obama campaign knew what it was doing, and if you think about it, it makes sense.

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
12. That's contemporary politics.
Sat May 27, 2017, 01:40 PM
May 2017

Particularly at this point in the campaign. It is virtually never about persuasion, but only driving turnout amongst those already most likely to agree. It makes reasonable sense very late in the campaign to use limited resources where they have the most bang for the buck. However, it is a riskier strategy in a district like Ossoff's where the Dems are a minority. If you only drive turnout, you will lose. There needs to be some persuasion to promote crossover voting. But Dems always assume that persuasion is there because people will use their common sense to see that R policies are driving the country into the ground. Unfortunately, people don't vote on common sense.

Anywho, persuasion is not really how politics is done in the US. The campaign professionals, like those who ran HRC's campaign, and Gore's campaign, and Kerry's campaign (remember those great successes?), mock the idea of changing voters' minds. If you even discuss it, you are mocked and ridiculed as some sort of uninformed idealist that has no place in professional politics.

Just driving turnout tends to be self-sustaining because it always appears to have been the right strategy in retrospect, because it will usually turn out to have succeeded in districts when the winning candidate had the edge in registrations in the district or state where the election was held.

And it often works well for Republican campaigns because the Republicans have already invested in almost fifty years of persuasion through entities like Fox News, Regnery Publishing, the US Chamber of Commerce, the Heritage Foundation, AEI, etc.

The Democrats have no equivalent mass effort to bring cultural, social, political, and economic thinking back to the left, so trying to win in places like MT and LA is much harder, particularly without effective persuasive techniques.

My two cents.

 

LBM20

(1,580 posts)
15. No, they do persuasion. This just might not be a persuasion script. Others may have those scripts.
Sat May 27, 2017, 01:45 PM
May 2017

Or, right now they are focusing on making sure their friendly voters already ID'd get the hell to the polls. This is a runoff, and runoffs almost always are lower in turnout than the original vote. They may be focusing on that right now and waiting another week or so before focusing heavily on persuading swing voters. It makes sense to lock down your friendly voters and get them the hell BACK to the polls and also turnout newly ID'd friendly voters. Again, sometimes they allocate some callers to turnout and others to persuasion simultaneously depending on the location of the phonebank. The main thing is to ID your friendly voters and get them the hell to the polls.

compsports

(91 posts)
16. Thanks
Sat May 27, 2017, 01:47 PM
May 2017

Thanks everyone for your responses as now I better understand the strategies.

However, I realized I wasn't very clear with my initial post. I realize it is pointless to get into a political debate as a volunteer. But when I previously did phone banking, the question of the voter's political loyalties never came up so that is why this caught me off guard. However, I need to realize each situation is different and the post about focusing on getting the Democrats to turn out makes alot of sense.

Thanks again.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
17. You are working to GOTV a majority of the time.
Sat May 27, 2017, 01:47 PM
May 2017

Asking a volunteer to be a political debate specialist would draw negatives on more than one front.

Great job getting involved and hitting the phones!!!

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
21. Campaigns do voter identification calls too.
Sat May 27, 2017, 02:24 PM
May 2017

They are mapping their 'universe' of voters. The first step is to see who is a strong supporter, who is a persuadable voter and who is a lost cause. Once you do that, you can tailor your campaign strategy appropriately. If you have enough strong supporters to get to a win, but maybe they are not reliable about showing up at the polls, you focus on GOTV. If number of supporters are shaky, you need to work on convincing persuadable voters harder. It's a basic math problem.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
22. What kind of smart political phone bank wastes time on cold calls? You call registered
Sat May 27, 2017, 02:27 PM
May 2017

voters of your Party.

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