When we suspect a topic is started by Russian or GOP trolls, like the

[applegrove]

Corey Booker likes Trump meme of tonight, could we have a word that means that? I propose "sverchki" which is Russian for "crickets".

[samnsara]

1. I agree but if its like a safe word then maybe somegthing we can remember or spell?

how about 'crickets'? And.. I like Cory!! I really like him and I can overlook some minor flaws in someone I believe is a good person ) no, not like Jared)

[applegrove]

3. It should be a Russian word No? We can all learn to spell it.

[L. Coyote]

2. How about izmennik?

[applegrove]

5. "traitor". I like it. Izmennik. Izmennik. Izmennik.

[C_U_L8R]

4. Фигня

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/фигня

[applegrove]

7. Too hard for DUers to get the Russian alphabet. I like IZMENNIK or traitor.

[Lotusflower70]

6. Hmmm

Nyet, da, das vi danya, spasibo

[applegrove]

9. My sister was best friends with someone in high school whose family

was posted to the embassy in Moscow so I know the first three. What does the last one mean?

[Lotusflower70]

14. Ah ok

The last one is thank you.

[LOL Lib]

8. I guess, "Vodka swilling Rooskee troll alert!" would be too long.

Right?







































My last lame attempt to make someone smile for the night.

[applegrove]

10. LOL!

[radical noodle]

15. It worked for me!

Thanks!

[shraby]

11. How about trumpskitroll

Or just trollsky or robotroll

[applegrove]

12. Trollsky I like. Catchy.

[melman]

13. How about not assuming everything you don't like is Russian trolls?

Too much?

[ms liberty]

41. This. n/t

[WoonTars]

44. No shit right?

Or is it too hard a concept to figure out that not everyone thinks the same way...

[TheBlackAdder]

45. This too. The key word "suspect" leads to witch hunts and the formation of an echo chamber.

[m-lekktor]

46. thank you. nt

[TheDebbieDee]

16. I think when we come across a post that is suspected to be posted by a TROLL

We should fill the thread with posts about the weather status of each poster's locale or each poster's favorite chili recipe or the name and type of the beverage that each poster is currently imbibing...

That way you don't have to respond to anyone who has already responded to the post and the original poster is puzzled as to why most posters aren't addressing the original post!

[shraby]

17. dailykos used to do that, post recipes when they suspected a troll or a disruptor.

[TheDebbieDee]

18. Then maybe we should start using the same tactics here, too...

[applegrove]

19. I was serving cocktail sausages in a few troll filled threads myself...

because 'we had guest's'.

[AgadorSparticus]

20. Ok. but the only Russian i know is nyet.

I'll warn you right now. In a few days, there is a good chance you may see something like "sever chicken" from me. Just so you will know in advance...

[applegrove]

21. I've settled on serving guests cocktail sausages because of 'guests'.

This is how you say guest in Russian: "Gosti" That works too. That is Indian originally. I did a college talk on manners and some of the English language comes from Indian subcontinent. Through Russia in this case. Back 10s of thousands of years ago. So guest gosti ghost works well too. So many choices.

[AgadorSparticus]

22. Ghosti, it is!!

[applegrove]

23. No h. Just gosti. We would not want our Russian guests to misunderstand.

[AgadorSparticus]

24. Jeebus. I am not usually this bad. It's late for me and time to go to sleep. Gosti it will be.

Have a good night!

[applegrove]

25. Night.

[58Sunliner]

26. I missed that thread-is there a link?

I saw a couple of threads-one that said people were trying to knee-cap CB because some were critical of his position re JK and DT impeachment, and another that posted that the substance of a tweet alleged CB supported JK and DT-not true either. Are those the threads?

[applegrove]

27. Yup. CB is a possible 2020 candidate and the GOP/Russians can't

start Benghaziing him fast enough. Remember they started the "outrage" on Hillary and Benghazi before Obama's second term. Even if the trollskys pick up on a authentic comment, they have proven that they can do a lot of damage when they set their minds to it by putting their foot on the scale.

[JCanete]

35. First of all, there are plenty of liberals who aren't fond of a candidate like Booker being our

frontrunner, any more than they are fond of, or are carrying water for, Putin. It should not go with the territory that if you have misgivings about a Democratic candidate, or harsh things to say, that that makes you a Russian operative or stooge.

That said, as somebody who isn't a huge fan of Booker the politician, I don't think withholding judgement on
Jared rises to the level of scandal. People who are concerned about money going to Booker might have a point--when something happens following the money makes sense--but nothing has happened here yet. Frankly all of our politicians should be wary before they call for drastic action against a person. Putting your foot in it isn't going to do us any good, and that goes the same for people jumping to conclusions about Booker now.

[58Sunliner]

42. An actual link. Not a fantasy.

[applegrove]

43. You've not seen the reports of Russian interference with the Bernie bros?

We have to wait till there is a link to identify a pattern? Remember when Obama went to his first Congressional Black Caucuss weekend as a newly elected senator and was followed around by gorgeous women coming on to him so bad that he went home upset to Michelle. And then publicized what happened? Obviously and attempt by the GOP to mess with Obama's chances at running for president some day. Which did not work. Why should we let the same game work here on the DU with Corey Booker? Assume the GOP or Russians are going to try to wedge any daylight between us and our potential 2020 candidates. And do it with trollskys and gostis. That should be commonly known. And we should have a safe word for each other when it looks like it is happening.

[Kentonio]

28. How about just quietly messaging the moderators or using the alert system

Rather than starting witchhunts? Just a thought..

[applegrove]

29. Calling them guests in russian and serving hors d'oeuvres is pretty

passive. And often they are not blatant enough in a single thread. It is the overall pattern that matters.

[Kentonio]

30. Would be better to message MIRT then I'd have thought.

Otherwise it'll end up with people getting hounded for not conforming to the groupthink of the moment. That makes me uncomfortable. It's healthy to get a range of opinions and viewpoints.

[applegrove]

31. Yes but when there is a pile on of a potential Democratic 2020 candidate

you should put up some warnings.

[Kentonio]

32. If its too strong it should already be a breach of the rules about not attacking Dems shouldnt it?

[58Sunliner]

49. So this is all about your candidate and for that you use these boards and propaganda

to intimidate people from speaking out about issues that are relevant. You look like you are taking a page from the republicans. "you should put up some warnings" indeed. Propaganda alert, calling people trolls and operatives who do not blindly support Cory Booker. Good luck with that. You will need it. I find it interesting that DT always accused others of exactly what he was doing. It's called projection.

[applegrove]

50. No there are patterns out there of our presidential candidates being

done in, or attempts to, years before they became presidential candidates. You can ignore it if you want.

[JCanete]

33. I see this going well. I'm sure people here won't throw something like that around lightly.

[applegrove]

34. So what is the alternative when people float between the lines and

get bandwagon going on one politician vs. another. It did not work out to well with Bernie bros and jackpine radicals and Jill Stein and Hillary. We have to be able to fight grey with grey.

[JCanete]

36. I don't know. As a Sanders fan who has been accused of having some nefarious agenda too often on

these boards, I'm not thrilled about us making the easy assumption that people must just be operatives or fools when they have something to say. The more ludicrous an attack on Sanders or Clinton or Booker is, the easier it is to shred the poster's argument on the substance alone. This isn't a one-direction affair where you can't take down the nonsense by showing just how much nonsense it is. I see no value in assuming the poster is posting out of something other than sincerity. I also don't put a whole lot of stock in the notion that there are a lot of paid propagandists here a LONG time out of the next election, and longer still before the next Presidential race. I could be wrong, but it seems like a silly waste of energy.

[applegrove]

37. The election in 2020 has started.

[JCanete]

38. We don't even know if Trump is going to still be there by Christmas. I'm not saying nothing that

happens now matters, but it matters in ways that would be really hard for people to predict. Taking down a candidate at this stage in the game doesn't really make any sense to me, since that just means that candidate might be too damaged to run for one reason or another, or else not be able to come out on top in the primary. Some other less damaged candidate will take the lead instead, or fill that opening in the spectrum for the primary run. I mean, I'm not claiming this with any certainty,I could be wrong. I could be missing a big piece in the puzzle, but so far, I just don't get the logic for it.

[applegrove]

39. The GOP started the fake Benghazi scandal before Obama was reelected

in 2012. That was to do in Hillary. And it worked well. They had no idea who their candidate would be 4.1 years before Hillary ran. They would only be emboldened.

[Foamfollower]

47. That is complete HORSESHIT!

Everything is riding on the 2018 election and trying to bypass that into a 2020 election mode is complete idiocy.

[applegrove]

48. The GOP went after Obama in his first year as a senator. They went after

Hillary on Benghazi before Obama had won the 2012 election. Ignore it if you like. Of course we need to focus on 2018. But don't forget the GOP play a long game.

[Hekate]

40. Kick

[ProudLib72]

51. So what was the final decision?

Gosti and cocktail sausages? Now I have to find a pic of cocktail sausages in a Russian tin?!

[applegrove]

52. I like trollsky too. But gosti is more passive. So when I see a pile on of

our great leaders for no reason I'll get out the cocktail sausages and make the gosti is feel welcome. No consensus. I guess do what feels best for you if the pattern repeats itself.

[ProudLib72]

53. Gosti

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[applegrove]

54. LOL!

[Bonx]

55. Codename Hardhat