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choie

(4,107 posts)
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 05:50 PM Jul 2012

MK ULTRA - CIA Mind Control Research - Human Experiments in the United States

This documentary on MK ULTRA may have been posted previously, but I just found it on youtube. It is pretty harrowing, specifically the cold blooded psychopathic behavior of the CIA and its contracted doctors.


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choie

(4,107 posts)
2. Really?
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 06:06 PM
Jul 2012

This is an ABC news report - MK Ultra came out during the Church hearings of the 1970's. It's certainly not "creative speculation".

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
6. I think that reporting on someone else's creative speculation counts as
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 07:19 PM
Jul 2012

a viable discussion.


This isn't about the possibility of mind control, it is about the attempts at mind control.


I will be very disappointed if this gets sent to C.S..

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
9. Correct. Nor does it invalidate the Congressional Committee that brought it to light.
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 08:12 PM
Jul 2012

The Church Committee

Project MKUltra was first brought to wide public attention in 1975 by the U.S. Congress, through investigations by the Church Committee, and by a presidential commission known as the Rockefeller Commission. Investigative efforts were hampered by the fact that CIA Director Richard Helms ordered all MKUltra files destroyed in 1973; the Church Committee and Rockefeller Commission investigations relied on the sworn testimony of direct participants and on the relatively small number of documents that survived Helms' destruction order.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
12. Full disclosure for mankind to decide if this is acceptable
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 08:35 PM
Jul 2012

Apparently, the doctors, agencies or corporations who did these things thought it was. Their research, like the disgraced psychologists who used their expertise on prisoners in the last decade despite the censor of others, are still running loose.

Those who allowed the Tuskogee experiment, who exposed servicement to nuclear test blasts, atrocities in Japan, Germany and elsewhere, still have their papers circulated as if they were worthwhile. How should the human race regard any living thing within their power to help or harm?

Will we keep on setting human rights and environmental justice aside in the interest of science and industry? What is the goal? Is it a worthy goal?

This has been going on for a very long time, much longer than the existance of this nation. We'd better think long and hard about the intentions of those who do this kind of work, even in the most benign applications. The for-profit health care system hasn't even been handled in a just and humane manner, and those are the 'good guys.'

TIme for a morals and ethics review of our world.. or maybe just a lot of training in empathy.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
14. Don't forget the American soldiers exposed to depleted uranium,
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 11:15 PM
Jul 2012

... which has cause them horrendous problems, cancers, birth defects, etc--because they sat on the boxes holding the ammo. Not to mention the thousands overseas exposed to that same depleted uranium, experiencing similar horrors because they have to live around that stuff, daily.

allan01

(1,950 posts)
13. re:MK ULTRA - CIA Mind Control Research - Human Experiments in the United States
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 09:10 PM
Jul 2012

i belive that the cia should be totaly shut down.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
16. Thank you for posting this.
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 12:22 AM
Jul 2012

I believe the "mind control" unit is still active, and producing many who are unconcerned with their own interests, ie, republican voters.

I would not be surprised to hear fox noise was an unfortunate result of these experiments.

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