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If Trump allows businesses to avoid offering contraceptives to their employees -- (Original Post) Akamai May 2017 OP
Perhaps folks will post on Glassdoor. brokephibroke May 2017 #1
I disagree. Else You Are Mad May 2017 #3
then Fuck 'em and let them feel pain! Many lives are going to be made Akamai May 2017 #6
I don't disagree. Else You Are Mad May 2017 #8
They need to compete for good employees brokephibroke May 2017 #10
After the last few years... Else You Are Mad May 2017 #11
There is no way companies like brokephibroke May 2017 #14
I sure hope you are correct!!! Akamai May 2017 #26
Totally wrong...employees are not valued these days period. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #33
Why would they do that? Dem2 May 2017 #15
Neither would paying their employees equal wages. Else You Are Mad May 2017 #17
I agree with the person above Dem2 May 2017 #18
Unless it hurts their bottom line. Else You Are Mad May 2017 #20
Companies try to have a reasonable reputation to potential female hires Dem2 May 2017 #22
Don't get me wrong... Else You Are Mad May 2017 #23
I don't either Dem2 May 2017 #25
Some companies pay 100 percent for vasectomies citood May 2017 #28
Isn't Hobby Lobby a public company? GoCubsGo May 2017 #16
Private brokephibroke May 2017 #19
And here's a company that I not only boycott Dem2 May 2017 #24
My boycott of them began even before the contraception thing. GoCubsGo May 2017 #29
They also pay their employees well MichMary Jun 2017 #30
Religious Nazis Dem2 Jun 2017 #31
I never shop there...and this hypocritical company Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #34
My guess is... Else You Are Mad May 2017 #2
I don't think you are right about this. But really, any change that makes it more Akamai May 2017 #27
As usual this will disproportionately affect Voltaire2 May 2017 #4
The thing is, most major corporations want to attract the best talent. If they were to enact this smirkymonkey May 2017 #5
You bet! but for restaurant chains, etc., I would like to know who would deny Akamai May 2017 #7
I completely agree. smirkymonkey May 2017 #9
You can't know that...and what about rightie groups that organize Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #35
This is reason number 247 why we need national health care Yupster May 2017 #12
There a tons of reasons single payer would be the best and no way of getting it Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #36
Choice for corporations but not for women. Nt lostnfound May 2017 #13
Corporations are... Else You Are Mad May 2017 #21
Most companies will continue to offer bc Buckeyeblue Jun 2017 #32
I don't think they will...most companies don't offer maternity leave these days... Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #37

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
3. I disagree.
Wed May 31, 2017, 09:56 PM
May 2017

Public corporations only exist to make the most profits for the shareholders, and they will maximize even more profits by excluding contraceptives for their lower paid workers and non-executives.

 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
6. then Fuck 'em and let them feel pain! Many lives are going to be made
Wed May 31, 2017, 10:08 PM
May 2017

more difficult by stopping women from controlling their options.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
8. I don't disagree.
Wed May 31, 2017, 10:12 PM
May 2017

But, it will make them more money and that is all they care about. It is the same reason why the minimum wage is so low. They lobby to keep it low. Corporations do not care about their workers and this is no different. The people that can afford to quit their jobs and make a lateral career change to a different company would be the same people that would be more likely to have their insurance include contraceptives. The working poor do not have that luxury.

America is a fucking cesspool when it comes to health care and woman's rights.

brokephibroke

(1,883 posts)
10. They need to compete for good employees
Wed May 31, 2017, 10:49 PM
May 2017

And anyone with skills and intelligence will not work in a repressive organization. At least I hope so....

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
11. After the last few years...
Wed May 31, 2017, 10:54 PM
May 2017

They just don't care anymore. Most corporations are in a race to the bottom to make most profits.

brokephibroke

(1,883 posts)
14. There is no way companies like
Wed May 31, 2017, 10:58 PM
May 2017

Microsoft, alphabet, apple, Costco, ge,etc limit benefits. Ok, maybe some companies in red states do it, but not if they want to grow....

Smaller companies in red states who hate people in general may try to implement that crap.

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
15. Why would they do that?
Wed May 31, 2017, 10:59 PM
May 2017

It's not in their interest to do such childish things - not going to save them that much

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
17. Neither would paying their employees equal wages.
Wed May 31, 2017, 11:00 PM
May 2017

But they don't do that either.

Corporations don't care if it saves them pennies, they will do it.

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
18. I agree with the person above
Wed May 31, 2017, 11:01 PM
May 2017

Some regressive s******* redstate companies may do it but most companies in blue areas like where I live would never do such a stupid thing.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
20. Unless it hurts their bottom line.
Wed May 31, 2017, 11:03 PM
May 2017

Maybe you are right, but there are very few good corporations these days.

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
22. Companies try to have a reasonable reputation to potential female hires
Wed May 31, 2017, 11:05 PM
May 2017

If they have a bad reputation for hiring women or treating women different than men, it could be disastrous for their bottom line.

I guess we'll see. If I can boycott a company that would do such a thing, I will.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
23. Don't get me wrong...
Wed May 31, 2017, 11:07 PM
May 2017

I really want you to be right. I just don't have much faith in our greed economy.

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
25. I don't either
Wed May 31, 2017, 11:08 PM
May 2017

And right now employees don't have the power they used to have, but if the economy heats up again, they will have to compete for good hires.

citood

(550 posts)
28. Some companies pay 100 percent for vasectomies
Wed May 31, 2017, 11:16 PM
May 2017

Any monetary motive would lead a company to avoid paying for pregnancy.

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
24. And here's a company that I not only boycott
Wed May 31, 2017, 11:07 PM
May 2017

But I actively tell other people don't shop there and I flip them the bird whenever I am near.

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
29. My boycott of them began even before the contraception thing.
Wed May 31, 2017, 11:31 PM
May 2017

That place gives me the creeps. Aisle after aisle of cheap Chinese CRAP, and religious music piped through the store... If I need some craft item, I hold my nose and go to Walmart. (We have no Michael's here.)

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
30. They also pay their employees well
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 09:00 AM
Jun 2017

So--six of one, half a dozen of the other.

The daughter of an old friend of mine works there. They treat her well, and she loves it.

Demsrule86

(68,469 posts)
34. I never shop there...and this hypocritical company
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 09:42 AM
Jun 2017

does not offer maternity benefits...they sell worthless Chinese crap anyway.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
2. My guess is...
Wed May 31, 2017, 09:55 PM
May 2017

Is every major publicly traded corporation and most private corporations will do away with contraceptive coverage for their lower level employees and their families. And, of course, any small to medium sized business that cares more about profits over employees.

Sadly, greed will ensure that most businesses will exclude contraceptives -- even if it is for other health reasons other than birth control -- from their insurance policies.

 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
27. I don't think you are right about this. But really, any change that makes it more
Wed May 31, 2017, 11:14 PM
May 2017

difficult for women should be stopped.

Voltaire2

(12,963 posts)
4. As usual this will disproportionately affect
Wed May 31, 2017, 10:00 PM
May 2017

trump supporters. However these same people are really bad at connecting the dots and will be convinced that Mexicans stole their birth control or some other covfefe.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
5. The thing is, most major corporations want to attract the best talent. If they were to enact this
Wed May 31, 2017, 10:06 PM
May 2017

ridiculous law they would see a huge reduction in their talent base. Most well educated, high-level candidates would not sign on with a company that subscribed to such a ridiculous curtailment of benefits.

I know for a fact that my company would not go along with it and our employees would not support a company that did either. Don't think that companies don't know that they would lose a lot of their best employees if they went along with this. They stand to lose the best and the brightest.

I would like to think most of them are not that stupid.

 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
7. You bet! but for restaurant chains, etc., I would like to know who would deny
Wed May 31, 2017, 10:12 PM
May 2017

their workers this basic human options.

This so everyone can COMPLETELY AVOID THEM NOW AND FOR (FUCKING) EVER!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
9. I completely agree.
Wed May 31, 2017, 10:17 PM
May 2017

I would not patronize an establishment that ever denied their workers basic human rights and decent healthcare options. They will suffer for their greed. However that will also hurt the workers. I don't really know the answer to this, but if corporations are being threatened with going out of business because of their greedy, hateful actions, perhaps they will reconsider their options.

Demsrule86

(68,469 posts)
35. You can't know that...and what about rightie groups that organize
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 09:43 AM
Jun 2017

boycotts to stop contraception coverage? It will happen.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
12. This is reason number 247 why we need national health care
Wed May 31, 2017, 10:55 PM
May 2017

Why should your employer have anything at all to do with whether you use birth control or not?

Health insurance and employment should have nothing to do with each other.

Demsrule86

(68,469 posts)
36. There a tons of reasons single payer would be the best and no way of getting it
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 09:44 AM
Jun 2017

in the foreseeable future.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
32. Most companies will continue to offer bc
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 09:38 AM
Jun 2017

Of course, not for the right reasons but because maternity leave is expensive, both from a cost and lack of productivity perspective. Companies run by crazies will not.

Demsrule86

(68,469 posts)
37. I don't think they will...most companies don't offer maternity leave these days...
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 09:45 AM
Jun 2017

In fact I was shocked to learn that a Mahoning school system does not offer maternity leave anymore.

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