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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Deplorable strategy on Russiagate is becoming apparent.
There was no collusion with an adversary and even if there was collusion it's not illegal and Jim Comey can't be trusted.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)* russia, per ronald reagan
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)I hope and trust he's prepared.
At the end of the day either Comey or Chump will be the only man standing.
better
(884 posts)They stopped being evil when they began allowing private individuals to run off with all the money.
PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)So now we are to the definition of "is".
They gave up ground much faster than I would have expected.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)Online definition.
greymattermom
(5,751 posts)fraud and money laundering are illegal and deplorables will understand that. Collusion is an unknown word to them. They probably think it's the same as collision.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Collusion might not technically be illegal.
But subornation of perjury, perjury, and obstruction of justice are crimes and one can be guilty of all those even if the underlying act was legal.
A great example is Clinton's consensual blow job. It was legal. The cover up is what created legal exposure for him and Monica Lewinsky.
Also, if there is evidence of collusion with a foreign adversary that's an impeachable offense
Volaris
(10,269 posts)They're going to claim Russia isnt an adversary, and even so, it's only Impeachable if the House decides it is, and that's not likely (yet).
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Melting my hard drive isn't illegal. It would be illegal if I was under investigation.
Volaris
(10,269 posts)Al Capone
Nixon
Bills tryst wasn't illegal. Lying to the grand jury about it sure as hell was...you would think that of all people, fucking REPUBLICANS would have remembered this.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)There is no global-warming. And if there is, then it's not our fault. And if it's our fault, then it's not a bad thing.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Is also one of their angles on this. Focus on leaks and unmasking.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)That was one of the talking points given to GOP members. One of the members said that's like saying the problem isn't that I'm beating my wife. It's that my kids are calling the cops about it.
Orrex
(63,172 posts)On page 187 of Valis, he calls it "the two-proposition self-canceling structure," in which the second statement is offered in apparent support of the first, even though it does nothing of the kind.
As Dick phrased it: "I don't steal horses, and anyway you have a crummy horse."
Regardless, I find your assessment to be distressingly credible.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Say you sue me because you claim my dog bit you. Well now, this is my defense: My dog doesnt bite. And second, in the alternative, my dog was tied up that night. And third, I dont believe you really got bit. And fourth, I dont have a dog.
-Richard "Racehorse" Haynes