Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJoan of Arc-executed because she was a cross-dresser????
?resize=1100x740Interesting bit of history. After Joan was captured by the English, she was sentenced to life imprisonment and was not to be executed IF she dressed appropriately - in a skirt. Joan tried for a awhile, but reverted back to hose and tunic so they hauled her before the court again and sentenced her to burning as an unrepentant witch.
"...both because she continued to wear mens clothes and continued to claim hearing voices of saintsthe pro-English Bishop of Beauvais, Pierre Cauchon, decided to excommunicate and then execute her, partly for the heresy of wearing mens clothes."
Funny bit - Despite the reversal of Joans sentence, it would be centuries before women could wear mens clothes in public without causing a scandal. In fact, a French law forbidding women from wearing pants remained on the books until 2013. The law required Parisian women to ask permission from city authorities before dressing as men, and stipulated that they could not wear trousers unless holding a bicycle handlebar or the reins of a horse.
More detail about Joan and the whole cross-dressing thing at:
http://mentalfloss.com/article/501179/how-cross-dressing-helped-send-joan-arc-stake
InfoView thread info, including edit history
TrashPut this thread in your Trash Can (My DU » Trash Can)
BookmarkAdd this thread to your Bookmarks (My DU » Bookmarks)
4 replies, 3210 views
ShareGet links to this post and/or share on social media
AlertAlert this post for a rule violation
PowersThere are no powers you can use on this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
ReplyReply to this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
Rec (3)
ReplyReply to this post
4 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Joan of Arc-executed because she was a cross-dresser???? (Original Post)
packman
Jun 2017
OP
JoeStuckInOH
(544 posts)1. She sound a bit off her rocker...
not the whole pants thing. That's silly as there's nothing wrong with female trousers.
The whole "I hear voices" part is a bit looney. It might be the voices' fault though - they could have advised her better. Mine tell me not to say anything about them to anyone else.
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)2. Wow! This is the first I've ever read abt
Joan of Arc's being persecuted mostly for her style of dress... Then again, I haven't read much abt Joan of Arc either
unblock
(52,196 posts)3. When I first heard of Joan of arc I thought "girl who thinks she's a boy"
Of course this was ages ago, before I knew anything about transgendered people.
Not sure what I based this on but I still have in my mind that Joan was a boy
shraby
(21,946 posts)4. If she was, mankind hasn't progressed much since, has it?