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kpete

(71,963 posts)
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 11:29 AM Jun 2017

I stand with-Charles P Pierce: "Hillary Clinton Must NOT Be Silent"

Hillary Clinton Must Not Be Silent
We can't forget the extraordinary events that put Donald Trump in the White House.
BY CHARLES P. PIERCE
JUN 1, 2017

.........


As a matter of fact, I think the nation would have been better served had Gore raised holy hell about what happened to him for as long as he possibly could. I think the nation would have been better served if some Democratic senator had stood with, say, John Lewis, to contest the results of the 2000 election.

I think that Kerry should have hollered louder and longer about the shenanigans in Ohio that helped re-elect George W. Bush. Maybe if they had done this, the subsequent flood of voter-suppression laws, and the ensuing gerrymandering of various legislatures, which continues to rage through the political process today, could have been partially stemmed.

Frankly, I hope she continues to "frustrate" Democratic panjandrums and I hope she continues to make the likes of Ruth Marcus simper about how bitter she is. Right now, as far as I can see, HRC is the only one completely free to hammer away at the extraordinary events that conspired to put Donald Trump in the White House. As the investigations continue to accelerate, the country needs somebody outside of the Congress and outside of Department of Justice to keep the country at large focused on the real cost of having abided by the Clinton Rules while an election was hijacked from afar. Might as well be her.


http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a55410/hillary-clinton-2016-election-comments/

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I stand with-Charles P Pierce: "Hillary Clinton Must NOT Be Silent" (Original Post) kpete Jun 2017 OP
K & R! 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2017 #1
K & R ...... Wounded Bear Jun 2017 #2
ABSOLUTELY AGREE! Madam Clinton's Presidency on her worst day... Raster Jun 2017 #3
i agree! she knows so much about what happened.... samnsara Jun 2017 #4
A-freaking-men!!!! Bleacher Creature Jun 2017 #5
Kicked and recced. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #6
This: ehrnst Jun 2017 #7
K/R BadgerMom Jun 2017 #8
I'm with him--and her! spooky3 Jun 2017 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author mcar Jun 2017 #10
Ford should not have pardoned Nixon. mahannah Jun 2017 #11
K&R ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #12
This is perfect. Sugar Smack Jun 2017 #13
Forward, Secretary Clinton! Lonestarblue Jun 2017 #14
Yes! This! I want to hear all she's got to say! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #15
This: LiberalLovinLug Jun 2017 #16
Absolutely, 1,000% right! NastyRiffraff Jun 2017 #17
Agreed LoveMyCali Jun 2017 #25
Yep. They hijacked our country, and even if some of them get caught C Moon Jun 2017 #18
I wrote an email to Ruth Marcus lovemydogs Jun 2017 #19
She won't be silent. Less is more. Every time the RW push some 'breaking headline' or outright lie, Sunlei Jun 2017 #20
Good on Charlie Pierce.. Mahalo, kpete! Cha Jun 2017 #21
Bless Chas Pierce for saying this forcefully. We MUST have Hillary's back. Hekate Jun 2017 #22
Got that right. Also about Gore and Kerry and a bunch of others and those down ballot from Hillary. Amaryllis Jun 2017 #23
I love this! Exactly right! And we should ALL be screaming our heads off about ALL of this ALL deurbano Jun 2017 #24
... Lucinda Jun 2017 #26
She won't be, in spite of certain members of the disgraceful media's constant bashing of Hillary still_one Jun 2017 #27
Yes Insufficient outrage in 2000 paved the way for 2016 delisen Jun 2017 #28
Absolutely. And she should also tell Sarandon to Eat Shit. Lil Missy Jun 2017 #29

Raster

(20,998 posts)
3. ABSOLUTELY AGREE! Madam Clinton's Presidency on her worst day...
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 11:33 AM
Jun 2017

...would have been far better than tRump*s on his best day (which we have yet to see)!

The NUMBER ONE thing Hillary Clinton can do right now is RESIST, PERSIST and BE AS LOUD AS HELL!

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
7. This:
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 12:01 PM
Jun 2017

"Put simply, the Clinton Rules state that any relatively commonplace political occurrence or activity takes on mysterious dark energy when any Clinton is involved. For example, ever since I began following politics, I never have seen an unsuccessful campaign that wasn't riven with internal strife, messaging problems, and ex post facto recriminations about the allocation of resources. For that matter, I haven't seen many successful campaigns where this wasn't the case, eith

BadgerMom

(2,770 posts)
8. K/R
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 01:28 PM
Jun 2017

I get it. The 2000 election was the first salvo at the federal level. I just never understood the almost cowardly acquiescence.

Response to kpete (Original post)

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
14. Forward, Secretary Clinton!
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 01:45 PM
Jun 2017

We're behind you and will help however we can. I hope Secretary Clinton becomes the Eleanor Roosevelt of our times--pushing not only our country but the world toward a more equitable and just society.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
16. This:
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 01:58 PM
Jun 2017
"As a matter of fact, I think the nation would have been better served had Gore raised holy hell about what happened to him for as long as he possibly could. I think the nation would have been better served if some Democratic senator had stood with, say, John Lewis, to contest the results of the 2000 election. I think that Kerry should have hollered louder and longer about the shenanigans in Ohio that helped re-elect George W. Bush. Maybe if they had done this, the subsequent flood of voter-suppression laws, and the ensuing gerrymandering of various legislatures, which continues to rage through the political process today, could have been partially stemmed."

Hillary seems to be following not just the "Clinton Rules", but the "Democrats Rules" about meekly sliding into the shadows immediately after being robbed and lick your wounds lest you be accused of sour grapes.

They seem to be living in some alternate past reality when decorum and good manners were respected above all. And definitely above righteous anger.


"Here, you go first."
"Oh no, I couldn't possibly. You go first."
"Are you quite sure?"
"Yes, absolutely."
"Why thank you."
"Oh, you're ever so welcome."

NEWS FLASH!: Democrat voters WANT you to fight back. We promise we won't be put off by raised voices. And small r Republicans and Independents that may just vote Democrat, will not hold it against you. It will be seen as having a backbone.

Because compared to the childishness of how the GOP has acted during Obama's terms, and now with the orange man-child himself as President....there is no need anymore for politeness. They have already set the bar so low, that charges of 'sour grapes' pales.

Would many of us prefer a more cordial, genteel atmosphere from our elected leaders? Yes. But that is not, unfortunately, the situation from the other side. We avoid confrontation to the extreme, playing by not only "Clinton Rules" and "Democrat Rules" but appallingly also the hypocritical and one-sided "Republican Rules".

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
17. Absolutely, 1,000% right!
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 02:14 PM
Jun 2017

I'm sick of people whining about how Hillary should keep her mouth shut. She was robbed of the election; there is now little doubt about that. It's important to understand why and how that happened, not only for the catastrophic 2016 election, but for subsequent elections. I hope she keeps speaking out; I'm sure she will.

C Moon

(12,209 posts)
18. Yep. They hijacked our country, and even if some of them get caught
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 02:29 PM
Jun 2017

they will be smiling: because we'll never get another election.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
20. She won't be silent. Less is more. Every time the RW push some 'breaking headline' or outright lie,
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 02:34 PM
Jun 2017

watch for our "public sector" Hero(s).

Hekate

(90,560 posts)
22. Bless Chas Pierce for saying this forcefully. We MUST have Hillary's back.
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 04:03 PM
Jun 2017

I watched the talking heads take her words apart and distort the hell out of them after her commencement address at Wellesley and at the Codecon. Where I saw, once again, a highly rational thinker expressing herself intelligently and dispassionately, they insisted once again on a narrative that she was bitter, relitigating, rehashing, not taking personal responsibility, and on and on ad nauseum.

What it boils down to is: Be Ashamed of Yourself, Hillary, and SHUT UP and GO AWAY.

Once again folks: She won by 3 million votes even after gerrymandering, voter suppression, and ethnic cleansing of voter rolls. She won by 3 million votes even after our election was hacked in what amounts to an Act of War.

And the majority of the media pundits want her to STFU about this cancer eating our body politic. They want to make it all about her, and she is trying to make people understand that it is NOT all about her.

Are we going to let them do this to her? Are we going to let them do this to America?

Not just no, but Hell No. Let's all vow to have her back -- and be vigilant even at DU.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
23. Got that right. Also about Gore and Kerry and a bunch of others and those down ballot from Hillary.
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 04:35 PM
Jun 2017

Like Rush Holt.

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
24. I love this! Exactly right! And we should ALL be screaming our heads off about ALL of this ALL
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 08:25 PM
Jun 2017

the time! Eric Alterman used to write (probably still does) about the right's unparalleled skill at "working the refs." That helped that ensure excerpts from an effin Breitbart (!) creation, "Clinton Clash" would be featured in BOTH the Washington Post and NYT just as she started her campaign... and helped ensure Comey would smear her (as he cleared her) to try to placate (but he didn't go nearly far enough for them) the snarling, howling mob demanding her head. (They wanted a real head, not the Kathy Griffin version.)

still_one

(92,061 posts)
27. She won't be, in spite of certain members of the disgraceful media's constant bashing of Hillary
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 09:23 PM
Jun 2017

Why don't "women" know their place?


delisen

(6,042 posts)
28. Yes Insufficient outrage in 2000 paved the way for 2016
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 09:29 PM
Jun 2017

I hope Clinton continues to seek out.

Who and what are we when we do not stand forcefully against injustice? and try to discourage others from speaking out?

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