I've come to think that there are no "Good Republicans"

[First Speaker]

...OK. I'm exhausted, have the flu, and have been influenced--to say the least--by today's developments...in just about every sphere of national life. But fuck it. The GOP--all of it--have sold their souls to the devil. There's no moral difference between them and the German conservatives of the 1930s, who hitched their wagon to the star of you-know-who in order to crush the Weimar Republic and the Left. At this point, it literally wouldn't bother me if Trump, Pence, Sessions, Bannon, Ryan, Turtleman, Walker, Brownback, Cruz, and anyone else you'd care to name, were sent to fucking Gitmo and broken. At least we'd find out about the goddam Russian treason, and that real quick. *Deep breath*. OK. I'm back to "normal". But I do believe that we as a nation are about where we were in the 1850s. We aren't on the verge of 1861--yet. But we are on the verge of a John Brown moment, something that will break open the "consensus" for everyone to see. "Normal" politics aren't going to be continuing for much longer, one way or another.

[rufus dog]

1. I got to the same point last summer

They don't have any core, thus no soul.

[Hayduke Bomgarte]

10. I came to that conclusion during the raygun years

That opinion was set in cement in the years following boy george's stolen elections.

[applegrove]

2. A Canadian conservative, Jack Maclaren, got caught admitting all

the creepy nasty stuff the Conservatives would do if they ever win the Ontario Legislature. He got kicked out of the conservative caucus they so don't want it known. Point is you are not alone in the world with your republicans. Trump is just more blatant about it than people like Ryan who keep trying to put a smilieface on everything. But they are all the same. And they are everywhere.

[retrowire]

3. There are.

They just...

Don't get TV exposure

And

Are overshadowed by their dipshit party.

[Jacquette]

4. I lay ALL of this at the feet of our so called

leaders both R and D. With the complicity of the media. They are insisting on treating this as business as usual. Investigate. Supoena. Indict.

As though after a 2 yr process there will be much of a country left.

[Rollo]

5. Well, if we were to be honest, nobody is all good, or all bad...

And some Republicans have done good things:

Teddy Roosevelt busting up the monopolies...

Lincoln freeing the slaves (eventually)

Nixon creating the EPA

Eisenhower creating the national highway system


And some Democrats have done some bad things:

Wilson and race

FDR trying to pack the Supreme Court

LBJ vastly escalating the Vietnam War and lying about the Gulf of Tonkin

Bill Clinton and Monica


So... nobody's perfect. But if we want progressives to win the government, we need to reach out to, not condemn, various voting blocks...

[GitRDun]

6. I'm with you...

They destroy.

They stand for nothing but the worship of money above all else.

They believe that lower taxes and less regulation is a panacea for everything.

And they are liars....all I am hearing today is how great America's been at reducing it's carbon footprint. Well, you dumb fucks, the very regulatory wall you are tearing down is directly responsible for reducing our carbon footprint!

I find myself working hard at NOT simply despising Trump voters despite whether or not they are a good person otherwise.

[Dem2]

7. They're angry

Angry people do not behave rationally. When they eventually snap out of their funk, they will probably wonder what the f*** is going on.

[Iggo]

8. They're like good cops.

If they cover for the bad ones, then what are they really?

[vlyons]

9. Oh there are plenty of "good" Republicans

"Good" in the same way that "good" Germans stood by silently in the 1930s. "Good" Germans, who said and did nothing during Hitler's rise to power. "Good" Germans, who thought it was perfectly ok to label people as subhuman, round them up, and deport them "somewhere else." Never ever forget that in law, silence means consent. So all those "good" Republicans, who stand by silently, while criminals and traitors destroy out country are just as morally bankrupt and guilty as Trump.

[Hayduke Bomgarte]

11. Yes!

[taught_me_patience]

12. Evan McMullen and David Frum come to mind

as a couple of good Republicans.

[FiveGoodMen]

13. There aren't

Haven't been any for a long while.

The bad ones pushed the good ones out (to the extent that there were ever good ones in our lifetimes).

[okieinpain]

14. agree n/t.