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onecaliberal

(32,739 posts)
4. No both sides do NOT say they grab women by the pussy, do not walk in on naked teens
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 06:33 PM
Jun 2017

In a beauty pageant, do not say they could shoot someone on 5th avenue and still get elected. Do not pathalogically lie about everything and give Russians classified info while leaving out Americans. Do not assist Russia in ripping off democracy. Do not blow up the NATO alliance. NO sorry, no fucking false equivalence. I have zero fucks to give about what people who support all this think.

leftstreet

(36,097 posts)
5. This shouldn't be a Democrats vs Republicans thing
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 06:34 PM
Jun 2017

I support her right as a person and an entertainer to do/say whatever she wants

Really hate that it's becoming a red vs blue thing though

Squinch

(50,897 posts)
6. But both sides don't do it. She is an entertainer. She did something a bit over the top.
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 07:27 PM
Jun 2017

It's her job. She's not a candidate grabbing pussy or punching a reporter or hacking an election.

This brouhaha is Republicans framing the narrative and us falling for it hook line and sinker. A-fucking-gain. We're even anticipating their displeasure and getting all scared of it.

If we didn't get all breathless about it and if we treated the breathless Republicans as if they were making a mountain out of a molehill, which they are, it would not amount to anything.

She should never have apologized.

Kaleva

(36,235 posts)
8. Lots of broad brushing going on. Blaming all for the actions of one or a few.
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 07:42 PM
Jun 2017

Blame Ted Nugent for what he says or does.

Blame Kathy Gifford for what she alone did.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
10. From Rolling Stone's Elizabeth Goodman in 2007:
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 07:52 PM
Jun 2017

"Renegade right-winger Ted Nugent recently went on a vicious onstage rant in which he threatened the lives of Democratic presidential candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Decked out in full-on camouflage hunting gear, Nugent wielded two machine guns while raging, "Obama, he's a piece of shit. I told him to suck on my machine gun. Hey Hillary," he continued. "You might want to ride one of these into the sunset, you worthless bitch." Nugent summed up his eloquent speech by screaming "freedom!"

And then Ted and Kid Rock and Sarah Palin (who put crosshairs on Gabby Gifford)
got invited by Trump to the White House.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
12. Many good points. But still....
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 08:59 PM
Jun 2017

I couldn't agree more about the filth Ted Nugent said about President Obama, his lack of apology, the fact that the right never condems it, and that fact that Benedict Donald invited him to the White House.

But we on the left are better than that and now other's hate will be excused because, Kathy Griffin stooped to the hateful right's level.

 

Henry Krinkle

(208 posts)
13. She dun goofed.
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 09:08 PM
Jun 2017

For someone who makes a living dishing out the heat, she's a poor sport at taking it.

It's not the original incident that's going to haunt her, it's her response to it that's going to be
her undoing. I never even heard of her until this fiasco.

When I first saw the pic, I didn't find it offensive, horrific or the slightest bit funny, I just saw it as a lame,
eye rolling attempt at being 'ohhh so edgy', relevant and controversial'... like 'meh', whatever.

I didn't even remember it a day or two later when someone I know asked me what I thought about the Kathy Griffin
thing... "who the fuck is Kathy Griffin? Ohhh... is that the comedian holding Trumps severed head thing? What about it?"

Then she goes and has this mind blowing disaster of a press conference. Like, WTF was she thinking?
A smarter, more wiser person would have just let it go (although a smarter, more wiser person wouldn't have
posed for that pic to begin with), be done with it, and in 6 months or less, it will all be forgotten and she could
get back on track with her career.

Whatever she has coming is on her.

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