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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKathy Griffin and Bill Maher say offensive stuff in order to get attention for themselves.
This seems like an obvious point, but their entire schtick is to offend people and go beyond what's considered appropriate.
They've gotten rich doing so, despite their lack of other talents. (Griffin was a wannabe Joan Rivers who's now a wannabe Amy Schumer).
They are victims of no one but themselves when they go so far as to find themselves criticized on all sides because the attention they sought is not positive.
They're not worth defending.
Is the scalp-taking ugly and unseemly? Of course.
But, we do it all the time. If those are the rules we're gonna live by, then professional trolls on the nominal left are going to have to deal with it.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I can't tell if you mean people defending this shit or pivoting to economic discussions or those who are genuinely bothered by the slurs?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)if it would be offensive if Rush Limbaugh used the N-word, it's offensive when anyone on the left does it as well. If hideously violent imagery is offensive when the right does it, it's offensive coming from the left.
I think there are some things that are just generally unacceptable in terms of civility and common decency.
BeyondGeography
(39,284 posts)Bill Maher is worth defending IMO because there's a lot more to his act than offending people. Watch any one of his shows and you'd know that (which I suspect you do anyway). Kathy Griffin is an uninteresting mediocrity in comparison.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)So a female comedian could call Clinton a "c word" in 2008. And a Black comedian can use the "N word". If you are not a member of the slurred group, you use an euphemism like "N word". Otherwise every hater out their will seize the opportunity to use the slur on the grounds that so and so on TV used it.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)in a p.r. battle with the Tr*mp family. I guess maybe she does have a talent, as that's quite a rare feat.
BootinUp
(46,928 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)BootinUp
(46,928 posts)emulatorloo
(43,982 posts)gulliver
(13,142 posts)Poor liberalism is ill served by what Maher's critics are demonstrating. Priggishness + inhumanity + humorlessness. There are two sides to that human flaw. One is that when we liberals show it, we disgrace liberalism and set back its causes. The other is that it opens the door a crack to Pol Pot style boneheadedness and cruelty.
Maher has apologized. Now it is time for all those who criticized him to apologize too.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)the N-bomb owe no apologies.
gulliver
(13,142 posts)There's a huge apology deficit in the world. It's better to overpay when it comes to apologies.
ciaobaby
(1,000 posts)Why "drop" it at all.
ciaobaby
(1,000 posts)This is the Maher I know and despise - nothing "liberal" about it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-maher-history-bigoted-comments_us_5932bcb5e4b02478cb9beaf6?fn&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
applegrove
(118,022 posts)the most important jobs in the country.
billh58
(6,635 posts)Meh.