Maher apologized. Those offended should now consider apologizing to him.

[gulliver]

Maher offended with words and has apologized. Those who turned on a good liberal over what he said could be considered to have demonstrated insufficiency in the good character traits of humor, loyalty, and tolerance. They should now accept Maher's apology and give him one of their own back. That would be the right thing for them to do in my opinion. Then everyone is good again.

[sharedvalues]

1. Stop talking about him. The right wing media wants you to continue using his name

[BeyondGeography]

3. Wha?

Since when does the RW media like to see us stand up for people who quite effectively tear them a new asshole every time he talks about them?

[cyclonefence]

34. I don't understand

why we are being encouraged to stop talking about something that concerns us. I understand that RW spies and bots keep track of mentions, but why should our freedom to speak be impeded by that? And if we shouldn't talk about these things here, where is it OK to talk about them.

Discussions about democratic politics, both good and ugly, are why I'm here.

[bettyellen]

2. That's not how apologies work. We didn't do anything. Wrong- HE DID.

I'm hoping you were being sarcastic but it's hard to tell today....

[gulliver]

5. Of course that's how apologies work.

And those who criticized Maher arguably did do something wrong. We don't offer apologies only because we think we owe them. We also offer apologies if we think it is anywhere within reasonable that someone else thinks we owe them. Apologies are like thanks to a degree. It's better to overdo them.

[bettyellen]

6. Calling out racial slurs is not wrong- no one needs to apologize for doing that. You should

Apologize for even suggesting as much.
Maher gave a weak worded apology because it was required of him- he's not getting as much as a thank you from me. But this OP deserves all the scorn I can muster.
Fuck apologizing for speaking the truth. Just nope.

[gulliver]

7. I apologize if you are offended by my suggesting you apologize.

It's not an easy thing to say or hear.

[bettyellen]

11. You should delete this embarrassing OP, otherwise your apology is meaningless.

[gulliver]

13. I can't do that. I believe it is correct.

[bettyellen]

15. Don't apologize if you have no regrets- that's dishonest. Apologies are not the same

As thanks in any way shape or form, but that's not he only problem with this embarrassing OP.

[elehhhhna]

21. Well, now that you've apologize for your inane convoluted illogical post

I guess I owe an apology for thinking it's stupid?

Ridiculous. Sorry not sorry.

[bettyellen]

23. Oh shit! LOL

[gulliver]

24. You don't owe me an apology.

[kcr]

57. No. Apologies aren't thank you notes.

That is not at all how apologies work.

[Warpy]

39. Did you see the show?

I really want to know. You and others seem to be missing one hell of a lot of context.

[bettyellen]

44. I saw the exchange, and he chose his words very poorly. Watching him make

A joke about the distinction between house and field slaves was icky, using those words made it more offensive. I get his overall intent- we all do. Doesn't negate the fact that it was offensive. Both those things can be true. I'm not calling for anyone to be fired but the blanket "but...many of his guests/ women he sexes are black" is just embarrassing.

[Warpy]

48. It was a little icky, but do note it was from GWTW and he used it on himself

He didn't use that word hurtfully against anyone else. I think he was just flummoxed.

It's really not worth all this hyperventilation. He apologized for a bad joke that didn't land, which is what that was, using a word that people find offensive when it's used against other people.

Choose your battles carefully. This one is not worth it.

[bettyellen]

51. Not worth it- to YOU. And that seems to be what's lost in these dozens of "hey it doesn't bother me"

posts. Well yeah, so much for empathy and solidarity guys. This is how we got to Trump, apathy and selfishness. It matters.

[Warpy]

54. I consider a war on words to be even more useless than a war on plants

It was tacky. He apologized. Consider the context unless this is the molehill you want to die on.

[bettyellen]

59. YOU consider it that, but it's linked to cultural issues that matter...

They matter a great deal to OTHER DEMS. Your priorities aren't the only things that matter... but fuck solidarity, right?

[SaschaHM]

4. "Those offended should now consider apologizing to him"

White liberalism really is the cure for all sins.

[NCTraveler]

8. No thanks. Nt

[WhiskeyGrinder]

9. Lmaoooooo

[nycbos]

10. I am not an African American.

So I won't wouldn't presume to tell African Americans how to feel when the hear the N-word.

[gulliver]

12. I agree with your decision.

[Dream Girl]

25. I'm African American and the word offends me no matter who says it.

That said, I don't really care and will continue to watch his show if I feel like it. He's a frigging comedian whose brand is edgy and offensive. I don't believe he is anymore racists than your average white person. Maybe even a bit less so.

[nycbos]

29. You have the right to your opinion...

, my point was there seemed to be a whole lot of white people giving lectures on social media.

I was saying that isn't ok.

[elehhhhna]

14. Apologies do not guarantee forgiveness, and they certainly do not elicit apologies

from the offended party. This is one of the most ridiculous ops ever.

[bettyellen]

17. I've never ever heard this convoluted logic before- but I'm sure I'll find

Someone tweeting this same crap now. Dumb memes are dumb.

[elehhhhna]

19. Right? I guess if someone hits me and later apologizes I should apologize for being hurt?

What the ever loving fuck? It's ridiculous.

[bettyellen]

22. It's a real Trumpian sense of agrievement and entitlement to even suggest

that. And I mean Trumpian in the spoiled toddler sense of the word. You don't get a cookie just because you apologized. You don't automatically even get forgiven.

[demmiblue]

16. 10 posts in the last 90 days, and this is what you want to contribute here?

[gulliver]

18. This is what you want to contribute here?

[geek tragedy]

20. LMAO. nt

[emulatorloo]

26. I'll say it in pictures

[Squinch]

27. Are you having an LSD flashback? If not, you might want to rethink your premise there.

If you are having one, post more!

[demmiblue]

31. Holy shite... this is quite something.

Especially the Anthony Weiner comment.

That is one of the most fucked up things I have read here in a long time, and that is saying something.

[samnsara]

35. yes hes a sick weirdo but he had a voice that we need.. he was abrasive and loud

[demmiblue]

42. 'We' don't need Anthony Weiner.

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Just what are you trying to do here?


For prosperity:

28. i dunno about you but our side needs some pitbulls who may sometimes offend us to get.....

..their (our) message across. Criminey how many times have I had to listen to the 'C' word or the 'B' word...or suffered the indignities of simply being female. Yes he said it was wrong but don't stifle his voice...or HER voice over it, we NEED people like Bill and Kathy and Alan Greyson and hell yes even Anthony Wiener who can and will get in the gutter, when we wont, and fight like hell for us...because we don't want to get our hands dirty. I would rather they be on OUR side than the other.

If we are going to be squeaky clean we are gonna keep losing.

[pintobean]

30. Fuck that.

The guy is, and always has been, a total douchebag. The asshole is just showing his true colors. He might be liberal, but he isn't good.

[pnwmom]

32. Those offended have nothing to apologize for. The ones who should apologize

are the fans of Mahers who insisted on supporting his right to make a slavery joke with the N word, and who still insist he was some kind of victim.

He's the one who made a mistake, not the people he offended or those who called him out on it.

[madville]

33. Kind of sick of the perpetual outrage and correctness

From the right and the left, anyone that goes outside the lines on either side is now subject to immediate boycotts and calls for ouster. Don't really care for it, seems to damper free thought in my opinion.

[Squinch]

38. Racist slurs damper free thought too. I don't care for them. Also, not one person that I have seen

in any of these discussions has called for a boycott or an ouster. The only ones who have mentioned boycotts or ousters are the ones defending the racist remark that Maher himself said was unacceptable.

[nini]

36. WTF?

No.. just no. Accepting an apology is one thing but how the hell should someone offended by what he said have to apologize for questioning him?

Being a 'good Liberal' does not give someone a pass for these type things. We call our own out and we should never stop holding each other accountable for such things.

[Paladin]

37. Fuck that. I don't grovel to used-to-be liberals like Maher.

Let him cut back on the non-stop Islamophobia and liberal bashing, maybe I'll think about it. At the moment, Kathy Griffin is far more worthy of my sympathy.....

[bagelsforbreakfast]

40. People who think Maher is racist...

are A*holes. I guarantee if you got Jaime Foxx, Chris Rock and Dave Chapelle together and ask them they'd laugh their collective asses off at how stupid white people are. Do you not get it - TRUMP is president. That's where your concern should be.

[SaschaHM]

43. Black voters voted solidly against Trump and are his worst demographic.

Maybe your "concern" should be directed towards the white people that continuously put him and folks like him into power.

[bettyellen]

46. Are you so limited you can only have one concern at a time? That sucks!

[Squinch]

47. No. We can be concerned about racism too.

[Skidmore]

41. The answer to an apology is foregiveness.

Forgiveness granted must be met with a demonstration of a lesson learned and the application of that lesson to all similar circumstances. It goes beyond mouthing perfunctory words.

[bettyellen]

45. Forgiveness is not always granted,sometimes you gotta walk away.

I'm surprised people think anything is owed to the man for merely saying what HBO demanded.

[Skidmore]

50. Don't know about the HBO part, but

you are spot on about the nature of forgiveness.

[bettyellen]

52. Too often people use "forgiveness" as "it's all okay" when it was not....

You move on but have to resist writing history. Or apologizing back to the offender, LOL.

[JTFrog]

49. What a ridiculous OP.

Seriously.

I thought I has seen some crazy shit here before, but this one takes the cake today.

[Snackshack]

53. Very true.

Not sure if people are being trolled or if the posts are legit. Either way it is a very good example of why the right/conservatives own the field and the left/progressives are in such bad shape rt now

[still_one]

55. I am not going to comment on Maher's use of the "n" word, but the irony of republican and right

wing groups, who have been pushing a racist and bigoted agenda for decades, suddenly seem so offended by Maher's use of the word.

Does anyone find that strange?

[Humanist_Activist]

56. This post is a special type of stupid, you realize that, right?

That's not how apologies work, nor how anything works.

[kcr]

58. So, will Mahar then have to apologize because we apologized?

Then we'll have to apologize to him again. This seems like it will only result in an infinite loop of apologies.

[Gravitycollapse]

60. Bill Maher can kiss my ass.