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lovemydogs

(575 posts)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 07:30 PM Jun 2017

The Mayflower Hotel, April 2016

Washington Monthly has an article talking about the fact that a meeting at the Mayflower Hotel in April 2016 between the Russian Ambassador and Trump campaign and knowing what took place there is the clue needed to unravel Trump.

The writer, John Stoher, feels this is the thing that will blow the republican party out of the dream state they've been in for several years. That the scandal would make Watergate seem like 'small potatoes', as he says.

He feels that many in Washington, intellegence, FBI, congress, ect., knows alot more about the Trump campaign's dealings then is being let on and that it is coming out in drips and drabs for a reason:

'I don’t use the T-word lightly, because no one should. But we are getting close. As I noted in a recent column, I suspect everything needed to impeach and remove this president is probably already known, and it probably was known within weeks of Trump’s surprise victory in November. The problem for those with this knowledge was what to do with it after the country had completed a process of choosing a new leader. Only by leaking this information, drip by drip, were they able to expose Trump without jeopardizing the constitutional integrity of our democracy.'

He thinks Trump struck a deal with Putin, as many of us have, for Russia to help Trump win in exchange for dropping sanctions but, it seems the Obama administration knew alot more about this then was let on to the public:

'Even so, senior Obama administration officials and staffers at the Department of State told Michael Isikof of Yahoo that, after the inauguration, the Trump White House demanded “proposals for the lifting of economic sanctions, the return of diplomatic compounds and other steps to relieve tensions with Moscow.” This so alarmed them that they “immediately began lobbying congressional leaders to quickly pass legislation to block the move.”

This set off a flurry of activity resulting in a bipartisan measure to force Trump to go through Congress before lifting sanctions. The White House eventually backed off the issue, but that hasn’t stopped Trump from seeking ways to please Russia. The Washington Post reported this week that the administration is “moving toward” with returning two Russians compounds vacated after President Obama sanctioned Russian diplomats for meddling in the 2016 election.'

the writer feels that the meeting at the Mayflower Hotel is where the deal was discussed and struck And shortly after that meeting is when the DNC was hacked:

'We already know that Attorney General Jeff Sessions met with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington on that day. Sessions said the meeting was part of a reception, brief and public. What we didn’t know is that Trump himself might have been there along with his son-in-law Jared Kushner. NBC News reported this bombshell Thursday: “Classified intelligence [suggests] there was some sort of private encounter between Trump and his aides and the Russian envoy.” '

It is an interesting article. And the deal had to be discussed and hammered out somewhere. The Mayflower has been mentioned several times in various articles and programs discussing the Russian hacking.

What I find interesting is that many knew what was happening long before now and could not just come out and say what was happening. Maybe in need of evidence. Or, as the article says, to spill it all could have diminished the actual crime and what really happened. And the Obama administration was following this for awhile and deciding it best for this to come out bit by bit.

Once they can nail down the Mayflower and what actually happened, he feels the scandal with explode into the public

http://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/06/02/call-it-the-mayflower-scandal/

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blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
5. i hope when they are found guilty they throw Beauregard in the bullpen with the biggest baddest
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 07:44 PM
Jun 2017

inmates they have and let them have their way with him. I'll bet that would wipe the smirk right off his goofy looking face

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
8. this place keeps coming up in all this.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 07:52 PM
Jun 2017

It's where Flynn and Woolsey met the Turks trying to kidnap that guy with the greencard.

The Mayflower affair may bring down the Republican party. Makes me wonder who owns it.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
9. MAJOR IMPORT: "shortly after that meeting is when the DNC was hacked"
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:32 PM
Jun 2017

The reason the venue was changed to the Mayflower was to allow private meetings to be arranged in hotel rooms. The previous venue did not provide this capability. There was obvious falsehoods about why the venue was changed, so the cover-up begins from the very beginning.




#TrumpRussia 50 tweet MEGA-THREAD by Seth Abramson:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028857006

lovemydogs

(575 posts)
15. They said in the story that shortly after
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 10:27 PM
Jun 2017

the Mayflower meetings the DNC was hacked.

I cannot wait for the full story to come out.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
11. Were there other sanctions against Russia in place at that time?
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 10:19 PM
Jun 2017

There is a point of logic to be answered: if Russia had not hacked the dnc at that time, then there would not have been any sanctions to lift and make a deal for. The April 2016 meeting must have been for something other than the sanctions Obama imposed 12/29/16.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
17. Got it. I wasn't sure if those
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:28 PM
Jun 2017

Sanctions had gone into effect. Seems like there were a lot of disgruntled politicians over it.
Thanks.

triron

(21,988 posts)
16. I still find it very strange that this was hushed up for so long.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 10:30 PM
Jun 2017

Perhaps the 'people in the know' underestimated the plot?
They thought Hillary would surely win?
It all seems so badly mishandled in retrospect.

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