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(58,785 posts)
4. Agree. Standing together against the enemy (us),
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 01:17 AM
Jun 2017

no matter what that requires of them, is their big strength, no matter if they're temporarily discombobulated while regrouping.

And it's important to remember that with rump out of the way, the Koch alliance, Mercers, Pence, Ryan, McConnell, and all the rest will probably be able to more effectively proceed with dismantling our government.


(3,396 posts)
10. Pubes made peace with Trump months ago. They knew if worse came to
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 02:26 AM
Jun 2017

worse Pence (their real hero) would end up as President and Lord help us.
I want Trump strung along till at least after mid-terms in 2018.


(15,580 posts)
14. 80% not that good actually
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 04:27 AM
Jun 2017

Usually support from members of one's own party is in the 90s. Losing 20% of your base voters, and party ID is the best predictor of how a person will vote, is a recipe for electoral disaster.


(24,432 posts)
16. He's at about 88% right now
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 05:11 AM
Jun 2017

Which is in the 80's.
They aren't going to desert him and one reason is, there is a large segment within the voting republikkan party that support him
They will turn out in 2018. Labrador is safe, as are some others in the free-dumb caucus
But, there are others that are far more vulnerable. And since districts are so gerrymandered, they know if they get the nomination they're on the road to re-election
A primary opponent is about all the can derail many of them
Dorkenschmidt in the white house has a solid (read:rabid) group of supporters.


(15,580 posts)
17. There's safe seats, but even 88% isn't that great
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 07:23 AM
Jun 2017

Obama was probably in the high 90s during his 8 years.


(92,441 posts)
8. So having all 3 branches of government in their grubby paws isn't turning out so great since...
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 01:47 AM
Jun 2017

...they boarded The Titanic with Trump at the helm.

not fooled

(5,858 posts)
11. Yeah
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 02:42 AM
Jun 2017

tragic that just when the worst president gets in--a puke, of course--they get both houses of congress too.

They were doing better under Obama than dump. Just like everyone else.


(300,625 posts)
15. Oh darn.. they have all three branches.. BUT..
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 04:30 AM
Jun 2017

they got the perverted tweeter trump calling the shots..


(15,429 posts)
12. they said, and it was said "sources say" the exact same thing throughout 2016
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 03:34 AM
Jun 2017

while I would love to believe this, I don't. Someone upthread said it best: for the GOP the only evil is the Democrats and they will do anything to oppose us.

Major Nikon

(36,870 posts)
19. The smart ones have already been there since before the election
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:32 AM
Jun 2017

The more Trump fucks up, the more there will be to join the party. Assuming all the Dems in the House vote for impeachment, it will only take 25 GOPhers. If this doesn't happen before the next session, there will undoubtedly be more seats lost by the GOP. So it's really just a matter of when they want that ship to sail.

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