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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 10:46 AM Jun 2017

Comey emphatically stated that no one including Trump asked him to stop investigating.

He also said he was aware of massive cyber-intrusion into the DNC and DCCC by the summer of 2015. But Hillary's email was obviously more important.

So basically a) he's mad about getting fired and b) let's talk about that Tarmac moment, baby!

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Comey emphatically stated that no one including Trump asked him to stop investigating. (Original Post) ucrdem Jun 2017 OP
Chill jehop61 Jun 2017 #1
Are you being leftynyc Jun 2017 #2
He just admitted again that Trump did NOT direct him to stop the investigation. ucrdem Jun 2017 #5
That was in the context about the "Russian investigation". However, accoring to Comey, Trump did still_one Jun 2017 #33
The conversation I quoted there was about Flynn. ucrdem Jun 2017 #35
Kamilila Harris just reiterated Comey's statement that Trump asked him to let the Flynn still_one Jun 2017 #36
She did a good job, but we basically knew this already. ucrdem Jun 2017 #41
And implied part of the Steel Dossier is true C_U_L8R Jun 2017 #3
Yes, he's implied lots of things, as did Trump, but the words were not spoken, and that's the point ucrdem Jun 2017 #7
This thread will not age well. nt Persisted Jun 2017 #4
I think he's going to leave all legal interpretations up to Mueller. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2017 #6
"I agree he's a good guy" ucrdem Jun 2017 #8
At least he admitted that he was "cowardly". cwydro Jun 2017 #26
thats not what he said. drray23 Jun 2017 #9
That is what he said. I wrote it as he said it. I'll check the transcript when it's available. ucrdem Jun 2017 #10
And sadly it doesnt matter what Comey says, unpatriotic, law breaking criminals Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #11
As for Flynn, he said that was his impression, but Trump never actually SAID that. ucrdem Jun 2017 #12
I guess firing him doesn't count. The_Casual_Observer Jun 2017 #13
He was fired for his mishandling of the email investigation. ucrdem Jun 2017 #16
You agree Trump fired Comey because he was unfair to HRC??? regnaD kciN Jun 2017 #31
I agree with the reasons provided. ucrdem Jun 2017 #34
And I'm the Queen of France. You may call me "Your Majesty." Squinch Jun 2017 #46
He is FURIOUS about being fired. That is why he began with a message to his WinkyDink Jun 2017 #14
Yes, that's what he wants to talk about. ucrdem Jun 2017 #18
Agreed. hamsterjill Jun 2017 #44
But he also stated BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #15
Yes, that was his perception. But apparently he didn't tell Trump that was his perception ucrdem Jun 2017 #17
Blunt is going over that now BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #19
Apparently he also told Trump that he wasn't a target of investigation. ucrdem Jun 2017 #21
But then he seemed to come back to say BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #23
Thought I just heard someone pin him down on that and he said he wasn't. ucrdem Jun 2017 #25
He keeps repeating that BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #28
He just admitted again to Cornyn that there was no investigation ucrdem Jun 2017 #37
Like I said BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #38
He should have told the POTUS, "I think you are pressuring me, Sir"?! WinkyDink Jun 2017 #20
Yes, and explained that it was inappropriate. ucrdem Jun 2017 #22
He didn't research how ruthlessly Drumpf operates. BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #24
Short. He's laying out the investigation underpants Jun 2017 #27
Now he's going on about Russia. Why didn't he do this when he was "investigating" Huma's laptop? ucrdem Jun 2017 #29
Wrong. Trump Asked Comey For 'Loyalty,' and Wanted Comey To 'Let' the Flynn Investigation go". still_one Jun 2017 #30
Well, when you fire someone they stop doing the job/investigating Beaverhausen Jun 2017 #32
You're only getting flamed because you're speaking truth. cwydro Jun 2017 #39
Thanks cwydro .. ucrdem Jun 2017 #40
Exactly. cwydro Jun 2017 #42
What a strange take away. Egnever Jun 2017 #43
Fortunately we were mostly spared the tarmac replays ucrdem Jun 2017 #45
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
2. Are you being
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 10:48 AM
Jun 2017

deliberately disingenuous or just sloppy? He wasn't asked to stop investigation into russia meddling in election. He ABSOLUTELY DID ask him to back off Flynn.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
5. He just admitted again that Trump did NOT direct him to stop the investigation.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 10:52 AM
Jun 2017

"That's not what he said." "Correct."

still_one

(92,183 posts)
33. That was in the context about the "Russian investigation". However, accoring to Comey, Trump did
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:04 PM
Jun 2017

ask him to let the Flynn investigation go.

Those are two different issues.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
35. The conversation I quoted there was about Flynn.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:08 PM
Jun 2017

The senator was pinning him down as to whether he was explicitly directed to drop the Flynn investigation and said he wasn't.

still_one

(92,183 posts)
36. Kamilila Harris just reiterated Comey's statement that Trump asked him to let the Flynn
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:18 PM
Jun 2017

investigation go", and Comey did NOT refute that.

Letting the investigation go, is asking him to DROP the investigation of Flynn

This from CNN:

"Comey said that Trump asked him to drop FBI investigations into Flynn centering on his calls with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak during the transition, which eventually led to his dismissal as national security adviser after it emerged he had lied about the conversations to Vice President Mike Pence.
Interactive: The many paths from Trump to Russia
He wrote that Trump said: "'I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go."
"I replied only that 'he is a good guy.'" Comey wrote, describing a private meeting with Trump in the Oval Office on February 14, then added: "I did not say I would 'let this go.'"
The exchange took place after a meeting between Trump and senior intelligence and homeland security officials, after which the President asked to speak to the FBI Director alone.
Comey said in his testimony that he understood the President to be requesting that he drop the investigation into Flynn, who had resigned the day before. But he says he did not understand Trump to be referring to the wider Russia investigation."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/07/politics/james-comey-testimony-released/index.html





ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
41. She did a good job, but we basically knew this already.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:33 PM
Jun 2017

He perceived that Trump wanted him to drop the Flynn investigation but he'd have to be pretty thick not to.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
7. Yes, he's implied lots of things, as did Trump, but the words were not spoken, and that's the point
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 10:53 AM
Jun 2017

that's been made repeatedly and will continue to be made.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
6. I think he's going to leave all legal interpretations up to Mueller.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 10:53 AM
Jun 2017

He's just testifying as to the words he was told, and the proper individuals will determine.

We have what Trump told Comey, and we have what Trump told Lester Holt, and what he told the Russians. And there could be far more as the investigation continues.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
26. At least he admitted that he was "cowardly".
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 11:51 AM
Jun 2017

He sure is. What a scum sucking suck-up.

Coney is NOT our hero.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
9. thats not what he said.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 11:00 AM
Jun 2017

if you had listened carefully, you would have seen it was related to the russian investigation about the russians hacking the election. Trump did ask him to stop the investigation on Flynn and Comey is absolutely confirming that.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
10. That is what he said. I wrote it as he said it. I'll check the transcript when it's available.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 11:02 AM
Jun 2017

The point is that Comey is not going to say anything particularly different than what he's been saying for four years, except to add that he's mad about getting fired without notice.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
11. And sadly it doesnt matter what Comey says, unpatriotic, law breaking criminals
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 11:04 AM
Jun 2017

most of whom are bought and paid for by Putin, and I do mean dozens if not over 100 current GOP House members and Senators will never do the right thing no matter what trump is guilty of.

Right now the house is doing away with Dodd Frank and the Senate is killing Obamacare.

They are trying to DESTROY you and me.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
12. As for Flynn, he said that was his impression, but Trump never actually SAID that.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 11:04 AM
Jun 2017

Good luck making that stick to anything.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
16. He was fired for his mishandling of the email investigation.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 11:25 AM
Jun 2017

That was the official reason and I read the memo and agreed with 99% of it.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
34. I agree with the reasons provided.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:06 PM
Jun 2017

Motivation is another thing but the official reason i.e. Rosenstein's memo was entirely compelling. He absolutely should have been fired for those reasons.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
14. He is FURIOUS about being fired. That is why he began with a message to his
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 11:24 AM
Jun 2017

colleagues, a completely out of place moment, IMO.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
18. Yes, that's what he wants to talk about.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 11:32 AM
Jun 2017

I sympathize, but it's not going to change a damn thing. He also stated emphatically that there was no Russian manipulation of votes. So basically this is Hillary's email redux, or will be shortly.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
44. Agreed.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:58 PM
Jun 2017

Particularly, the portion of his statement where he stated that he had not been able to "say goodbye" to his fellow FBI employees.

BumRushDaShow

(128,899 posts)
15. But he also stated
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 11:24 AM
Jun 2017

that when Drumpf told him "I hope you... blah blah", he assumed that this is what Drumpf "wanted done" and was basically "an order".

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
17. Yes, that was his perception. But apparently he didn't tell Trump that was his perception
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 11:27 AM
Jun 2017

and he admits Trump never actually said it.

BumRushDaShow

(128,899 posts)
19. Blunt is going over that now
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 11:35 AM
Jun 2017

But I expect this is why he documented everything in case his "perception" might have been incorrect. But as an investigator (by training) he documents the setting, conversations, and other facts in case it would be useful for potential future criminal investigations.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
21. Apparently he also told Trump that he wasn't a target of investigation.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 11:39 AM
Jun 2017

And admits today that he wasn't. Also that he didn't report any of this questionable interaction to the AG. So this is basically what I thought it would be, which is not much.

BumRushDaShow

(128,899 posts)
23. But then he seemed to come back to say
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 11:43 AM
Jun 2017

that he wasn't being investigated for the "salacious dossier material" and also claimed why it wasn't reported to the AG (a "team" decision due to Sessions about to recuse).

He is sortof all over the place - he does the emphatic statements and then comes back around and undoes them more subtly.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
25. Thought I just heard someone pin him down on that and he said he wasn't.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 11:50 AM
Jun 2017

i.e. that Trump wasn't under investigation period, but I could be wrong.

BumRushDaShow

(128,899 posts)
28. He keeps repeating that
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 11:56 AM
Jun 2017

but then will come back and leave hints that he might be - one statement for example - "because his campaign was under investigation and since he was the head, then....".

He's been doing this the whole time - come out very aggressive and then come back around later and equivocate on smaller details that can lead to a different conclusion from his initial statements.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
37. He just admitted again to Cornyn that there was no investigation
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:23 PM
Jun 2017

but that he didn't want to say so publicly in case there might be one down the road.

BumRushDaShow

(128,899 posts)
38. Like I said
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:26 PM
Jun 2017

he keeps going back and forth. He's doing an amazing dance.

He'll make what appears to be a "definitive" statement and then he'll come back and blow holes in that statement, leaving open the possibility regardless.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
22. Yes, and explained that it was inappropriate.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 11:40 AM
Jun 2017

Apparently he had 9 opportunities to point that out.

BumRushDaShow

(128,899 posts)
24. He didn't research how ruthlessly Drumpf operates.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 11:48 AM
Jun 2017

That was probably his mistake. Drumpf was never a politician and doesn't follow politician "rules", he uses "mob boss" rules. Comey assumed he was a politician and let it go until he found himself suddenly fired.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
29. Now he's going on about Russia. Why didn't he do this when he was "investigating" Huma's laptop?
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 11:58 AM
Jun 2017

He basically closed down the Russia investigation in the first 10 minutes when he said there was no Russian manipulation of votes. The cyber-intrusions would have been nice to hear about two years ago.

still_one

(92,183 posts)
30. Wrong. Trump Asked Comey For 'Loyalty,' and Wanted Comey To 'Let' the Flynn Investigation go".
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:02 PM
Jun 2017

However, Trump did not ask Comey to stop the Russian investigation.



Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
32. Well, when you fire someone they stop doing the job/investigating
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:04 PM
Jun 2017

Are you missing the point? Trump said he was relieved about Russia after firing Comey.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
40. Thanks cwydro ..
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 12:30 PM
Jun 2017

I know it's not what many want to hear, but hanging hopes on Comey is really a bad idea. He's mad that he was fired, but he's not going to say anything that will damage anyone in the GOP, and if that means lying he'll lie. That's just who he is.


ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
45. Fortunately we were mostly spared the tarmac replays
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 01:03 PM
Jun 2017

but what did we learn that we didn't know? That Russia didn't directly manipulate any votes? That Comey knew for years they were stealing cyberdata and that the email investigation was worthless but repeatedly went public with Hillary's email anyway? That he leaked his own memos to the NYT?


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