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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsComey emphatically stated that no one including Trump asked him to stop investigating.
He also said he was aware of massive cyber-intrusion into the DNC and DCCC by the summer of 2015. But Hillary's email was obviously more important.
So basically a) he's mad about getting fired and b) let's talk about that Tarmac moment, baby!
He just called the Pres a liar
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)deliberately disingenuous or just sloppy? He wasn't asked to stop investigation into russia meddling in election. He ABSOLUTELY DID ask him to back off Flynn.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)"That's not what he said." "Correct."
still_one
(92,183 posts)ask him to let the Flynn investigation go.
Those are two different issues.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)The senator was pinning him down as to whether he was explicitly directed to drop the Flynn investigation and said he wasn't.
still_one
(92,183 posts)investigation go", and Comey did NOT refute that.
Letting the investigation go, is asking him to DROP the investigation of Flynn
This from CNN:
"Comey said that Trump asked him to drop FBI investigations into Flynn centering on his calls with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak during the transition, which eventually led to his dismissal as national security adviser after it emerged he had lied about the conversations to Vice President Mike Pence.
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He wrote that Trump said: "'I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go."
"I replied only that 'he is a good guy.'" Comey wrote, describing a private meeting with Trump in the Oval Office on February 14, then added: "I did not say I would 'let this go.'"
The exchange took place after a meeting between Trump and senior intelligence and homeland security officials, after which the President asked to speak to the FBI Director alone.
Comey said in his testimony that he understood the President to be requesting that he drop the investigation into Flynn, who had resigned the day before. But he says he did not understand Trump to be referring to the wider Russia investigation."
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/07/politics/james-comey-testimony-released/index.html
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)He perceived that Trump wanted him to drop the Flynn investigation but he'd have to be pretty thick not to.
C_U_L8R
(45,000 posts)but classified
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)that's been made repeatedly and will continue to be made.
Persisted
(290 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,181 posts)He's just testifying as to the words he was told, and the proper individuals will determine.
We have what Trump told Comey, and we have what Trump told Lester Holt, and what he told the Russians. And there could be far more as the investigation continues.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)He sure is. What a scum sucking suck-up.
Coney is NOT our hero.
drray23
(7,627 posts)if you had listened carefully, you would have seen it was related to the russian investigation about the russians hacking the election. Trump did ask him to stop the investigation on Flynn and Comey is absolutely confirming that.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)The point is that Comey is not going to say anything particularly different than what he's been saying for four years, except to add that he's mad about getting fired without notice.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)most of whom are bought and paid for by Putin, and I do mean dozens if not over 100 current GOP House members and Senators will never do the right thing no matter what trump is guilty of.
Right now the house is doing away with Dodd Frank and the Senate is killing Obamacare.
They are trying to DESTROY you and me.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Good luck making that stick to anything.
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)That was the official reason and I read the memo and agreed with 99% of it.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)If you say so...
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Motivation is another thing but the official reason i.e. Rosenstein's memo was entirely compelling. He absolutely should have been fired for those reasons.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)colleagues, a completely out of place moment, IMO.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)I sympathize, but it's not going to change a damn thing. He also stated emphatically that there was no Russian manipulation of votes. So basically this is Hillary's email redux, or will be shortly.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Particularly, the portion of his statement where he stated that he had not been able to "say goodbye" to his fellow FBI employees.
BumRushDaShow
(128,899 posts)that when Drumpf told him "I hope you... blah blah", he assumed that this is what Drumpf "wanted done" and was basically "an order".
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)and he admits Trump never actually said it.
BumRushDaShow
(128,899 posts)But I expect this is why he documented everything in case his "perception" might have been incorrect. But as an investigator (by training) he documents the setting, conversations, and other facts in case it would be useful for potential future criminal investigations.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)And admits today that he wasn't. Also that he didn't report any of this questionable interaction to the AG. So this is basically what I thought it would be, which is not much.
BumRushDaShow
(128,899 posts)that he wasn't being investigated for the "salacious dossier material" and also claimed why it wasn't reported to the AG (a "team" decision due to Sessions about to recuse).
He is sortof all over the place - he does the emphatic statements and then comes back around and undoes them more subtly.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)i.e. that Trump wasn't under investigation period, but I could be wrong.
BumRushDaShow
(128,899 posts)but then will come back and leave hints that he might be - one statement for example - "because his campaign was under investigation and since he was the head, then....".
He's been doing this the whole time - come out very aggressive and then come back around later and equivocate on smaller details that can lead to a different conclusion from his initial statements.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)but that he didn't want to say so publicly in case there might be one down the road.
BumRushDaShow
(128,899 posts)he keeps going back and forth. He's doing an amazing dance.
He'll make what appears to be a "definitive" statement and then he'll come back and blow holes in that statement, leaving open the possibility regardless.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Apparently he had 9 opportunities to point that out.
BumRushDaShow
(128,899 posts)That was probably his mistake. Drumpf was never a politician and doesn't follow politician "rules", he uses "mob boss" rules. Comey assumed he was a politician and let it go until he found himself suddenly fired.
underpants
(182,788 posts)This is BRUTAL
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)He basically closed down the Russia investigation in the first 10 minutes when he said there was no Russian manipulation of votes. The cyber-intrusions would have been nice to hear about two years ago.
still_one
(92,183 posts)However, Trump did not ask Comey to stop the Russian investigation.
Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)Are you missing the point? Trump said he was relieved about Russia after firing Comey.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)I know it's not what many want to hear, but hanging hopes on Comey is really a bad idea. He's mad that he was fired, but he's not going to say anything that will damage anyone in the GOP, and if that means lying he'll lie. That's just who he is.
Too many here believe in magic.
This guy is the epitome of a "swamp" dweller.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)but what did we learn that we didn't know? That Russia didn't directly manipulate any votes? That Comey knew for years they were stealing cyberdata and that the email investigation was worthless but repeatedly went public with Hillary's email anyway? That he leaked his own memos to the NYT?