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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe GOP is responsible for McCain's meltdown. They were obviously conspiring
to drag President Hillary Clinton into the Trump fiasco and gave this marching orders to their member os the committee. McCain was just following marching orders and ended up totally confused.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)just embarrassing performance that was.
LOL Lib
(1,462 posts)Needs to be in a nursing home, not the Senate
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,839 posts)He's 80 years old. Is he going senile?
And I'll add to that as one who's had a parent who lost it such is not a laughing matter.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)the difference between the investigations.
But the whole referring to trump as Comey at least a couple times could just show McCain is shot.
mfcorey1
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rest or it was his medication.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Well, that's his excuse and he's sticking to it, dammit!
I didn't add the sarcasm thingy because that's what he really said.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)when his client is in trial for murder and there is motive and forensic evidence and the attorney says "How do we know that the deceased didn't annoy some drug dealers on the way home from work the day they were killed" with zero evidence that this is what happened.
Plausible? Not if all the evidence is in the other direction.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)as described in the OP.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)about all the questions the cons asked was what they DIDN'T ask about. Nobody mentioned the unmasking BS - that was supposed to be what they were to deflect to (according to Donnie - THAT's the big story). Not one con obliged that BS. I think that's significant.
eleny
(46,166 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)thoroughly INEFFECTIVE with that line of questioning. I think they were told to use that argument but they didn't shake Comey in the slightest and he came off as human and sincere.
eleny
(46,166 posts)I thought he did fine. But wingnuts had to be cheering even McCain.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)who still supports that degenerate to be a slack jawed imbecile, I couldn't possibly care less what those neanderthals think. Only independents count and with a 34% approval rating, they're already bailed.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)that supposedly still supports Trump.
That's what I want to know.
I agree, the attacking of Comeys reaction to Trumps attempts at Obstruction of Justice were ineffective with anyone remotely being fair about it.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)They're lost causes and can't be counted on to do any critical thinking at all. I'm listening to his lawyer speak now and I'm literally laughing out loud.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)amount matters to us in 2018 in terms of how many state legislature and congressional races we can pull in traditionally very red areas. We need both badly. Congress for obvious reasons and the state legislature races to try to get some momentum going into the 2020 elections and subsequent redistricting.
I think 27% or so was the low point for Nixon and/or George W Bush, so I think that is the best we can hope for.
eleny
(46,166 posts)The disgruntled can count. Just like Dems who became Reagan Dems. They counted for a lot.
Losing ones base is serious business. Peeling them off is worth going for, imo. We can multitask.
Pisces
(5,599 posts)Will win all these people over. We can not care or expend energy on this 34% they will never vote Dem
eleny
(46,166 posts)And the Republicans haven't finished gutting the ACA. Wait till people start dying after they lose their healthcare. Don't worry. You won't have to lift a finger to convince their families of who murdered their loved ones.
Haven't you read the postings here from DUers with family members who are regretting their Trump vote and it's been less than a year? You give up to easily.
Pisces
(5,599 posts)Time on people who are dumb as rocks. We need to focus on the 2-5% that actually swing elections who are independents. Not on brainwashed imbeciles who constantly vote against their best interest.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)We're only talking about hardcore R's who still support him now. Even many of them are embarrassed.
Pisces
(5,599 posts)Or Ben Sasse. They will not be lost to these conservatives. We need to focus on retaining those Independents in our column not waste time money and resources on the 34% that will never vote Dem.
IamFortunesFool
(348 posts)They regurgitate Fox spin and cultural parlances deeply rooted in ignorance of facts or history. Only truly ignorant or willfully uninformed people still support this man... In my experience, these are people who celebrate their ignorance... climate denying, young-earth fundamentalist types that have no education or desire to be informed.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)There is about 6-9% of those folks that could still be eventually convinced. Again, I'm using the Nixon and George W Bush low points as my guide. And those 6-9% are important in terms of punishing the GOP in 2018.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Ilsa
(61,691 posts)He did in his own line of questioning by getting names Comey and Trump confused.
irisblue
(32,950 posts)Dementia in POWS, a case study.
Brother Buzz
(36,407 posts)He was fishing out of season.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Frustrated here.
Brother Buzz
(36,407 posts)Here's one of many:
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,407 posts)Yes.
Leith
(7,808 posts)No, I will NOT apologize for that.
H doesn't understand the difference between a completed investigation into the legality of using a private email server while Secretary of State (which Rice and Powell also did)
and
an ongoing investigation into Russian hacking and interference in the US election.
"Double standard" my ass.
rethugs are trying so hard to implicate HRC in something that they make themselves look even more idiotic than usual.
Brother Buzz
(36,407 posts)I found it peculiar he was sitting off to the side, far away from his colleagues, like he was afraid that they would try and lock him in a closet again.
BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)...the mornings when LG isn't there, in his sheer Baby-Doll, making coffee, are the mornings when McCain just can't get revved up
Polly Hennessey
(6,793 posts)the worse it gets.
wishstar
(5,268 posts)He obviously didn't even understand his own gobbledygook.
It was shocking to me and probably equally shocking to Comey for McCain to seem so befuddled and demented
Sad and scary to think that McCain is supposed to be one of the few stalwart patriots who has claimed to be so concerned about Russian intervention and aggression, but obviously a total hack unless he was deliberately screwing up his marching orders so he would be totally ineffective in tearing down Comey's credibility.
Freethinker65
(10,008 posts)Channeling his running mate, Ms. Palin, perhaps? Too much rehearsing the night before to get the exact maverick-y statemanlike tone he wanted? Thing is, he could have just used allowed crib notes. Hahaha. Doesn't matter too much though...Lindsey will still be there for him and he really does not care much for Trump anyway.