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Comey was asked why Americans should care about investigation into Russian meddling in US election. (Original Post) kpete Jun 2017 OP
He even broke it down into language deplorables should understand. Barack_America Jun 2017 #1
Funny how they never ask that question about 'her emails' ck4829 Jun 2017 #2
(don't forget that's why Fox and Limbaugh's lies are bad too) sharedvalues Jun 2017 #3
All of the networks do the propaganda thing to a greater or lesser extent. Dustlawyer Jun 2017 #11
Thanks for this. You shoud write a book about it. They_Live Jun 2017 #14
Makes sense to me! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #4
He's right, but why is that even a question? Bucky Jun 2017 #5
That's the maxim of it, isn't it? Volaris Jun 2017 #6
Republicons either want power at any cost or they think there is nothing there. That's why he saidit Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #12
It's whether or not the Trump organization / campaign welcomed their misdeeds. YOHABLO Jun 2017 #7
Personally bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #8
The rubes don't care... Bromwell Jun 2017 #9
fuck the deplorables Skittles Jun 2017 #17
No, not "tried to shape" -- Russia actually did shape .. ananda Jun 2017 #10
Well the deplorable bdamomma Jun 2017 #13
the fact someone thought this question needed to be asked DarleenMB Jun 2017 #15
WHY did he help Trump become president Skittles Jun 2017 #16

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
3. (don't forget that's why Fox and Limbaugh's lies are bad too)
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 07:32 AM
Jun 2017

Because we expect honest discourse, but instead, through lies, Fox and right wing radio try to shape the way we think and act. And that's a big deal.

Putin doing it is far far worse. But the dishonesty of the GOP (did you see their Comey talking points) is part of the problem.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
11. All of the networks do the propaganda thing to a greater or lesser extent.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:39 AM
Jun 2017

It is not just Fox News!

I worked on over 10,000 BP Gulf oil spill cases from beginning to end. After the explosion and 11 deaths came the oil. It caused widespread economic loss throughout the Gulf states. I remember both Rachel Maddow and Anderson Cooper say in their live broadcast from the coast that they would be back down later and follow up on this story. They never did.

The reason they did not is because BP put on a huge advertising campaign for 3 years, especially for news outlets along the coast itself. No victim stories were taped locally to make the national news because the outlets needed that ad money and it was clear BP would cut the money off to any station or paper that printed anything negative.

While BP's commercials went from "Come on down to the coast" to a lady freezing her butt off in Alaska (as far from the Gulf as possible and still be in the U.S.), national news outlets faced the same advertising threat.

The effect was that the rest of the country were left with the impression that it had all been taken care of almost at the beginning. Advertising and news departments used to be kept separate. News used to have to bring truth to what they told. Now they label it "Entertainment" and they can legally lie to us!

They_Live

(3,231 posts)
14. Thanks for this. You shoud write a book about it.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:55 AM
Jun 2017

It makes me so angry. And it it's just one of many "corporate cover-ups" that we never hear about.

Bucky

(53,997 posts)
5. He's right, but why is that even a question?
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 07:50 AM
Jun 2017

A foreign power hostile to our values and our national security goals monkeys around with how the voters understand the issues that shape their votes. Sure, American politics is a big mosh pit.

but it's OUR mosh pit. Republican voters have become so docile, and so perversely obsessed with denouncing democratic scapegoats, that they have to be reminded the force coming along and attacking their fellow Americans it's a bad thing.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
6. That's the maxim of it, isn't it?
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:01 AM
Jun 2017

It's OURS.
Fuck Vlad (and I'm in the camp that says the Russian PEOPLE have never been my enemy and as soon as they realize they never were not a superpower, they will be one again, and I'm ok with that).

This is akin to Antigone got paid by the Persians. Creon would have tried to have her resurrected just to kill her twice.

When the deplorables figure that out, trump 'will die in prison.'

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
8. Personally
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:18 AM
Jun 2017

Did any of you get a lot of spam over the years? From Director James Comey?
I cannot tell you how many millions of dollars I have inherited from long lost
relatives in Nigeria as well as other countries. Sometimes notices of these
inheritances, or those willing to share their own good fortune if I will simply
clear the checks for them, come directly from spam accounts with the header
'Director James Comey, FBI' or some such. My cash flow has kind of diminished
though I'm sure one went into the trash bin just last week.

Was all this spam connected in some way? It helped to erode our tether to reality
and made election rumors about HRC more believable and something to laugh about?
They should have done something about spam long ago. There is no money in stopping
spam. Now maybe it will be re-examined.

Bromwell

(123 posts)
9. The rubes don't care...
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:20 AM
Jun 2017

They don't care b/c they don't want the truth...and the "media" they pay attention to keeps telling them lies.

ananda

(28,858 posts)
10. No, not "tried to shape" -- Russia actually did shape ..
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:23 AM
Jun 2017

.. the way many Americans think and vote.

I'm also convinced that they actually hacked the vote as well.

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
13. Well the deplorable
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:54 AM
Jun 2017

in this case, believe this. Raw Story Article:

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/trump-supporters-agree-neither-trump-nor-comey-lied-they-blame-the-media-instead/

Something is truly off with these people they have been systemically brainwashed and facts don't matter anymore.

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