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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:04 AM Jun 2017

Republicans unhappy that voters tie them to Trump.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/secret-recording-reveals-gop-lawmaker-freaking-out-about-going-down-with-the-ship-for-trump/

“It’s basically being taken out on me,” she said of Trump’s erratic behavior. “Any Republican member of Congress, you are going down with the ship. And we’re going to hand the gavel to Pelosi in 2018, they only need 28 seats and the path to that gavel being handed over is through my seat. And right now, it doesn’t matter that it’s me, it doesn’t matter what I’ve done. I have an ‘R’ next to my name and right now, this environment would have me not prevail.”

...

“The environment has changed and some of it changed on January 20,” she said. “There’s just an element out there that’s just, like, so against the president. Like they just can’t see straight. And all of a sudden on January 20, I’m like his twin sister to them. And I’m, like, responsible for everything he does, and tweets and says. And they want me to be spending my time as a pundit. ‘I disagree with that. I agree with this.’ I have a job in the legislature!”




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It's really unfair to tie random republican members of the House to Trump.
All the Republicans did was voting for Trump in the primary.
And voting for him in the general election.
And Ryan and McConnell publicly issuing a statement how their caucuses are fully behind Trump.
And carrying water for Trump with ever-more-ridiculous excuses for his erratic and possibly impeachable and possibly illegal behavior.

And for that you dare to tie her to Trump???





Remember the 2014 mid-term elections. The Democrats were running away from Obama and lost horribly.
In the 2018 mid-term elections, it will be the Republicans who are running away from Trump.
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Republicans unhappy that voters tie them to Trump. (Original Post) DetlefK Jun 2017 OP
This is likely the funniest thing I'll read all day JenniferJuniper Jun 2017 #1
Beat me too it! Zoonart Jun 2017 #3
Funny how that works; just can't understand it. Chasstev365 Jun 2017 #39
She said "The environment has changed" Canoe52 Jun 2017 #50
Sure is. But, people aren't just tying them to Trump, they're tying Republicans to "Mother Russia!" TheBlackAdder Jun 2017 #65
If you don't want to be tied to Trumputin... hvn_nbr_2 Jun 2017 #67
We all need to pressure all our conservative reps and senators on their ties of support beachbum bob Jun 2017 #2
please include bdamomma Jun 2017 #14
Hey Repubs... Dulcinea Jun 2017 #79
Take responsibility for your actions for once, repubes Achilleaze Jun 2017 #4
Exactly right, take responsibility for your actions! Kleveland Jun 2017 #29
THat is why I always, always say, "The Republcans' choice for President" duhneece Jun 2017 #46
YES YES YES! Laminate them to him. Superglue them to him. Gorilla-glue them to him. calimary Jun 2017 #57
I did before with Merrie Lee Soules.. duhneece Jun 2017 #80
Easy solution. Start speaking out against him. tanyev Jun 2017 #5
Exactly! Call for his impeachment. benfranklin1776 Jun 2017 #18
If only people would focus on all the good they do BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #6
Well, most of them DO appear to be potty-trained. Buns_of_Fire Jun 2017 #17
Yeah, like voting to over turn Dodd Frank Yavin4 Jun 2017 #30
People need to appreciate the beauty of reverse means testing BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #35
LOL ananda Jun 2017 #7
Trump and the GOP are trying to ruin the ACA... Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #8
She votes 100% in line w/ Trump's positins Nevernose Jun 2017 #9
Stop,whining Corgigal Jun 2017 #10
We need to come up with one great ad NewJeffCT Jun 2017 #11
Excellent idea Phoenix61 Jun 2017 #40
"Like they just can't see straight." - No, you stupid fucking cow, we CAN see straight. hatrack Jun 2017 #12
Stand by Your Man....perfect ad campaign idea bluecollar2 Jun 2017 #22
Forward your idea to the DCCC meow2u3 Jun 2017 #43
Dial 1-800-WAA-WHAA meow2u3 Jun 2017 #13
In the Big Dusty Trunk Of Flaccid Rhetorical Devices . . . hatrack Jun 2017 #15
IIRC somebody on Fox News has tried the talking-point that he's a Democrat at heart. DetlefK Jun 2017 #19
Joe Scarborough has been doing that on MSNBC. n/t demmiblue Jun 2017 #48
Yeah, right not fooled Jun 2017 #56
Waah, they are paying attention to the fact that I support the 1% and their leader and lark Jun 2017 #16
Awww poor baby! muntrv Jun 2017 #20
You beat me to it! Drat! DDySiegs Jun 2017 #49
Proud deplorables! Bromwell Jun 2017 #21
Poor little Trumpkin--"I have an 'R' next to my name. . . ." BigDemVoter Jun 2017 #23
THEY TIED THEIR OWN SELVES !!! Don't blame the voters, it was the R Party, as an organization & Kashkakat v.2.0 Jun 2017 #24
Even R voters in my town are upset that people are branding Republicans with Trump Le Gaucher Jun 2017 #25
Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #26
You nailed it! workinclasszero Jun 2017 #61
They have language for that. Turbineguy Jun 2017 #27
poor widdle snowflakes. . . .n/t annabanana Jun 2017 #28
They vote the party of trump line and then whine like this? El Mimbreno Jun 2017 #37
every single AlexSFCA Jun 2017 #31
Yes.. you are the Trump party. C_U_L8R Jun 2017 #32
Is this from The Onion? Yonnie3 Jun 2017 #33
Good. Keep tying them to Republican President Trump. It's working. They own him. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #34
boo-f******-hoo Marthe48 Jun 2017 #36
Yes Please Go Down With The Ship All-In Jun 2017 #38
They support Trump publicly and then whine that they are in trouble for supporting Trump? wildeyed Jun 2017 #41
Poor wittle snowflake....doesn't like being linked to what she is... Moostache Jun 2017 #42
you bought that bad pony, now ride it nt geek tragedy Jun 2017 #44
Jokes not even on her. It's on us.. Crybaby... LakeArenal Jun 2017 #45
Has her mouth broken? Amimnoch Jun 2017 #47
I don't want to tie her to Trump grantcart Jun 2017 #51
Fight back... bluecollar2 Jun 2017 #71
They own him ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #52
The provide some opposition to Trump IronLionZion Jun 2017 #53
There were only like what...23 other Reeps in the primary? forgotmylogin Jun 2017 #54
Well that's just too damn bad. calimary Jun 2017 #55
How independent? keithbvadu2 Jun 2017 #58
The solution for republicans is...do the right thing/do your damn job! workinclasszero Jun 2017 #59
Republicans in Congress can easily open their cake holes and object to Trump. Vinca Jun 2017 #60
Hey Martha.... bluecollar2 Jun 2017 #62
LOL workinclasszero Jun 2017 #63
Need video BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #66
if I lived in her district bluecollar2 Jun 2017 #68
!!!!! BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #69
Try voting against the policies Trump is pushing. Then maybe people will listen. nt Blue_true Jun 2017 #64
Well, duh, she has a 100% one hundred percent record voting with Republican Pres Trump Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #70
Here's a solution, you two-faced bastard. Goodheart Jun 2017 #72
Cry me a river. GoCubsGo Jun 2017 #73
GOP: party of hate, party of the wealthy american_ideals Jun 2017 #74
Then impeach him. McCamy Taylor Jun 2017 #75
Shields over at PBS called Trump "Typhoid Mary" Quixote1818 Jun 2017 #76
Hammer them relentlessly !!! OnDoutside Jun 2017 #77
That's why it's important to expose and stand against crooks in your own party, otherwise the luvMIdog Jun 2017 #78

hvn_nbr_2

(6,485 posts)
67. If you don't want to be tied to Trumputin...
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 01:14 PM
Jun 2017

...do something that shows you're not tied to Trumputin. It's funny but also tragic and disgusting that we've come to this.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
2. We all need to pressure all our conservative reps and senators on their ties of support
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:09 AM
Jun 2017

of trump and their own conservative policies that will destroy america as we know it. Letters to the editor, tweets to their twitter accounts and showing up at townhalls and their offices. Give them all indigestion and sleepless nights

Dulcinea

(6,602 posts)
79. Hey Repubs...
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 11:05 AM
Jun 2017

YOU have the power to start impeachment proceedings. If you don't want to be tied to The Donald, get rid of him! The ball is in your court. YOU have the majority. YOU can change things; it looks like you just don't want to.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
4. Take responsibility for your actions for once, repubes
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:16 AM
Jun 2017

You are getting blamed because you are responsible. Don't make things worse for America by trying to weasel out of responsibility. That is why decent, honest Americans see you as the freaking DEPLORABLES you are.

Kleveland

(1,257 posts)
29. Exactly right, take responsibility for your actions!
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:53 AM
Jun 2017

In the world where I was brought up, filled with decency, respect and compassion for others, I was taught that one needs to take responsibility for actions and choices that you make in life.

Unlike the Dumpster, who has never had to take responsibility, because daddy would bail him out.

I went to school in a fairly wealthy community in Shaker Heights Ohio, I saw this same sort of thing happen with many spoiled rich kids. I could tell you stories. When you are given everything, you have no respect for anything except your own developing obsessive ego and self interest.

Is it any wonder he ended up in military school?

When I was younger, and made some bad choices that caused me to be in trouble, the common threat to bring me into line was being sent of to military school. I can only imagine the crap this sorry excuse for a human being did when he was younger. It would make for a fascinating documentary I am sure.

As an allegedly grown man, now he can hire and coerce and blackmail others to lie and cheat for him, and personally always blames others when called out on anything that he does that comes into question by decent law abiding citizens.

He still has the demeanor of a school yard bully.

I have no sympathy for the pathetic Republican that have enable this madness,

They made their bed, they can just lie in it! Sweet dreams assholes!



duhneece

(4,110 posts)
46. THat is why I always, always say, "The Republcans' choice for President"
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 10:44 AM
Jun 2017

After this, I will, in conversations about our Tea Party US Congressman and even our Tea Party State Rep (against whom I ran last year),

The Republicans' chocice for President AND US Congressman (or State Rep...or State Senator and so on)...

calimary

(81,110 posts)
57. YES YES YES! Laminate them to him. Superglue them to him. Gorilla-glue them to him.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 11:40 AM
Jun 2017

WELD the two of them together. Surgically attached. Lash them together to the mast of that sinking ship.

No opponent for her yet... but the midterms will be here before you know it.

https://ballotpedia.org/Arizona%27s_2nd_Congressional_District_election,_2018

Turn that "R" into a new age Scarlet Letter.

duhneece

(4,110 posts)
80. I did before with Merrie Lee Soules..
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 11:13 AM
Jun 2017

And will again...within State Dem party and in our local Indivisible group, that's 90% of what we talk about...since mostly we appeared at Pearce's Town Halls (even the mock one)...and he doesn't let any but his most faithful know when he'll be in town...

...some of us are trying to get us going to local-County and State Rep (against whom I ran last Nov, with much help and support from DU and our beloved, late pinboy3niner)-meetings and appearances.

The newest are uninterested in mainly 'local' issues---like, aren't all politics local?-like the 'transfer' of public lands and so much more.

Any response from you feels like a response from a celebrity, surely you know, calimary?

tanyev

(42,516 posts)
5. Easy solution. Start speaking out against him.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:19 AM
Jun 2017

Loud, long, and often. Or, learn to enjoy that albatross around your neck.

benfranklin1776

(6,443 posts)
18. Exactly! Call for his impeachment.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:18 AM
Jun 2017

That would be the honorable and decent thing to do and in accord with their oath to defend the constitution but none of those things matter to this crop of soulless, honorless reprobates. They made their Faustian bargain knowingly and willingly trading their raisin shriveled souls out of their rapacious zeal for tax cuts for the wealthy, and now must rightfully pay the price.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,154 posts)
17. Well, most of them DO appear to be potty-trained.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:17 AM
Jun 2017

Maybe they can focus their upcoming campaigns around that.

Depends.

BeyondGeography

(39,346 posts)
35. People need to appreciate the beauty of reverse means testing
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:59 AM
Jun 2017

The wealthier you are, the more goodies you get.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
9. She votes 100% in line w/ Trump's positins
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:38 AM
Jun 2017

And then blames "liberal activists" for being tied to Trump.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
10. Stop,whining
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:42 AM
Jun 2017

Speak up and act ethical. Protect our country and it's norms first, before your party or your reelection. Let the chip fall as they may, but at least you'll be on the right side of history. It's possible your career may not be ruined, but you must do the above first.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
11. We need to come up with one great ad
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:48 AM
Jun 2017

that contains most of Trump's top outrages and then just cut and paste each district's Congressional Rep and each state's senator. "Congressman Issa voted with Trump to support throwing kids off insurance and for poisoning our air and deregulating our banks."
"Congresswoman Bachman..."

hatrack

(59,574 posts)
12. "Like they just can't see straight." - No, you stupid fucking cow, we CAN see straight.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:52 AM
Jun 2017

And it's not our problem. It's yours.

Suck it up and "stand by yer man" and sink with him.

Or stand up and repudiate him.

Your choice.

bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
22. Stand by Your Man....perfect ad campaign idea
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:36 AM
Jun 2017

Tie Representative/Senator X to two-scoops with "Stand by your man" playing incessantly in the background.

Have Pelosi and Schumer use the phrase every time they refer to a republican vote...

Make the term synonymous with support for Trump...

hatrack

(59,574 posts)
15. In the Big Dusty Trunk Of Flaccid Rhetorical Devices . . .
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:05 AM
Jun 2017

. . . this is right next to "Oh, well he's not a REAL Republican".

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
19. IIRC somebody on Fox News has tried the talking-point that he's a Democrat at heart.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:20 AM
Jun 2017

But it didn't pick up. Oh well. They can try again when he's out of office.

lark

(23,061 posts)
16. Waah, they are paying attention to the fact that I support the 1% and their leader and
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:15 AM
Jun 2017

am totally against anything that would help the working class. It's not fair, I want stupid Faux voters who know nothing, there's too many people who aren't stupid, waaah!

Poor little snowflake!

Bromwell

(123 posts)
21. Proud deplorables!
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:36 AM
Jun 2017

They embraced this buffoon as did their rube voter base...filled with hate and their bellies full of anti-Hillary lies, so they have to OWN IT.

BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
23. Poor little Trumpkin--"I have an 'R' next to my name. . . ."
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:39 AM
Jun 2017

I guess she doesn't possess the IQ to realize her entire party is morally and intellectually bankrupt.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
24. THEY TIED THEIR OWN SELVES !!! Don't blame the voters, it was the R Party, as an organization &
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:43 AM
Jun 2017

its leadership, who gave us this prez. Time after time, and even now - they continue to enable and make excuses. There was a brief moment when they could have chosen another nominee, but chose not to. Not like a number of conservative commentators with a conscience didnt see this coming.

 

Le Gaucher

(1,547 posts)
25. Even R voters in my town are upset that people are branding Republicans with Trump
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:47 AM
Jun 2017

Swing left , a group that has members in my town knocked on 50 doors to guage what people felt.

Few interesting findings:

1) more people than expected , regardless of political affiliation were willing to talk

2) There is buyers remorse among many republicans to varying degree.

3) 3 of them had bat shit crazy Trump supporters who yelled at the door knockers. The house numbers have been noted.

4) here is the best : regardless of party - most felt safeguarding the climate was very important!!




Overall it was a very good experience and we are planning to expand the effort

El Mimbreno

(777 posts)
37. They vote the party of trump line and then whine like this?
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 10:10 AM
Jun 2017

My heart pounds panther piss for them. Pints and pints.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,955 posts)
34. Good. Keep tying them to Republican President Trump. It's working. They own him.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:58 AM
Jun 2017

Republican President tRump is the culmination of 40 years of Republicon propaganda, stupefaction, gerrymandering, framing the debate, polarization, and fake news.

They ran 17 candidates and they chose him.

They had numerous chances to condemn him. They endorsed him.

Democrats predicted this disaster if he was elected. Republicons could see it too but kept quiet and prayed while they colluded with the Russians to steal the Electoral College.

They own him. They must pay in 2018 by losing seats.

The only way to redeem the Republicon brand now is to impeach both tRump & Pence simultaneously and use Article II, Clause 6 to restore the presidency to the Majority Vote winner, Hillary Clinton. Unlikely, but really the only way.

 

All-In

(312 posts)
38. Yes Please Go Down With The Ship
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 10:13 AM
Jun 2017

Good thing there is an alternate universe your supporters (lemmings) live in.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
41. They support Trump publicly and then whine that they are in trouble for supporting Trump?
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 10:31 AM
Jun 2017


Hmmm... Maybe they should try publicly condemning Trump, then maybe their constituents would understand that they don't support Trump.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
42. Poor wittle snowflake....doesn't like being linked to what she is...
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 10:32 AM
Jun 2017

FUCK THEM ALL...

If you are GOP, you are dead to me and you are responsible for Trump.

Don't like that? IMPEACH AND REMOVE...

Then I'm hanging Pence and his zealotry around your neck next!

LakeArenal

(28,802 posts)
45. Jokes not even on her. It's on us.. Crybaby...
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 10:42 AM
Jun 2017

As Judge Judy says: You bought the steak, you cooked the steak, you ate the steak, you own the steak..

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
47. Has her mouth broken?
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 10:46 AM
Jun 2017

If she want's to distance herself the solution is easy:

1. Join the democrats in voting against his unpopular legislative initiatives.
2. Speak out against him instead of just complaining that she's being tied to him.

Otherwise.. continue to own him, and suffer the consequences of it.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
53. The provide some opposition to Trump
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 11:11 AM
Jun 2017

there are very few Republicans speaking out against his disastrous policies

forgotmylogin

(7,520 posts)
54. There were only like what...23 other Reeps in the primary?
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 11:12 AM
Jun 2017

Its all'y'all R's fault for letting the Con pick you off that platform via bullying and assholery like beginner target practice. He had no experience and enough dirty, sticky skeletons in his closet that you should have easily disposed of him like crumpled toilet paper and sent him back to civilian life where he could accomplish his criminal butt fuckery without involving your party and America and the whole world going down with him. His only talent was winning the popularity contest, with or without Russia's help.

You should have been more diligent in making sure someone who *had at least read the fucking job description and had some experience" got forwarded. Right now, I'd be so much more comfortable with Jeb! (who actually has a brain and some sense of decency and commiseration for humankind) running the country than the douche you let through.

calimary

(81,110 posts)
55. Well that's just too damn bad.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 11:28 AM
Jun 2017

You climbed into bed with him, MARTHA MCSALLY. Freely. Deliberately. Nobody held a gun to your head and forced you to do so. It was through your own choosing. Never mind his visible and easily looked-up track record and "Trail of Fail" - the rip-offs and screw-jobs and slick-talking deceitful snake oil sales pitches and broken promises in his long and well-documented history, and the avalanches of lies he's told - all easily available on the record. Never mind all the times we tried to warn you.

You STILL went ahead anyway. ANYWAY!

YOU climbed into bed with him. Now he gets to fuck you.

But we intend to do EVERYTHING we can to make sure that he doesn't get to fuck the rest of US. (Especially since WAY MORE of us did NOT choose to crawl into bed with him.)

Words have consequences, dear Martha. So do actions.

And hey, Martha - thanks for the tip! I'm gonna look up who's running against you and send their campaign some money. Besides, I have some friends in Tucson, and I have family in Arizona. I think I'll start watching this one a little more closely.

keithbvadu2

(36,655 posts)
58. How independent?
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 11:59 AM
Jun 2017

"...thus making it impossible for her to tout her own independent record as a member of Congress."

How independent?

Tell us how you voted on Trumpcare.

With the herd?

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
59. The solution for republicans is...do the right thing/do your damn job!
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 12:04 PM
Jun 2017

Start impeachment proceedings in the House of Reps that your party controls against Trump or face him being tied around your neck as he kills your party!

It's really very simple.

Vinca

(50,236 posts)
60. Republicans in Congress can easily open their cake holes and object to Trump.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 12:05 PM
Jun 2017

They choose, instead, to be silent and that makes them complicit.

bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
62. Hey Martha....
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 12:36 PM
Jun 2017

Stand By Your Man

Tammy Wynette

Lyrics

Sometimes it's hard to be a woman
Giving all your love to just one man.
You'll have bad times
And he'll have good times, 
Doin' things that you don't understand
But if you love him you'll forgive him,
Even though he's hard to understand
And if you love him oh be proud of him,
'Cause after all he's just a man 
Stand by your man,
Give him two arms to cling to,
And something warm to come to 
When nights are cold and lonely
Stand by your man,
And show the world you love him
Keep giving all the love you can
Stand by your man
Stand by your man,
And show the world you love him
Keep giving all the love you can
Stand by your man

bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
68. if I lived in her district
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 01:31 PM
Jun 2017

I think I'd mount a large 8 x16 plywood panel on a small trailer. On that panel I'd pay a local artist to paint an image of Martha staring adoringly up at two-scoops.

I'd mount a large loudspeaker on the trailer and I'd hook it up to a recorder that would play this song on a loop.

The I'd go park outside her district office and play the song...over and over and over

Kinda like an ice-cream truck...

Just sayin...

american_ideals

(613 posts)
74. GOP: party of hate, party of the wealthy
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 01:20 AM
Jun 2017

That's why Trump joined the GOP - their hatemongering and autocratic tendencies were ripe for full authoritarian takeover. And then DJT cozied up to the Koches and picked many Koch cabinet appointees.

The GOP actually created DJT. Not the other way around.

Quixote1818

(28,918 posts)
76. Shields over at PBS called Trump "Typhoid Mary"
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 02:56 AM
Jun 2017


Something like 97% of Dems can't stand him so Republicans have to distance themselves from him in a big way!

luvMIdog

(2,533 posts)
78. That's why it's important to expose and stand against crooks in your own party, otherwise the
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 06:43 AM
Jun 2017

whole party has to wear the label

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