Paul Ryan taped discussing GOP money laundering

[triron]

with Russian ambassador?
https://patribotics.blog/2017/06/09/paul-ryan-taped-with-russian-ambassador-on-gop-money-laundering/

[Chasstev365]

1. Is the site legit?

I don't doubt it, but have never heard of the site.

[bettyellen]

5. It's not always right- but WaPo reported similar, this has been gossiped about for a month or so...

[HarmonyRockets]

6. It is Louise Mensch

And no, she is not legit at all. She's a complete joke.

[Demsrule86]

24. Really? She was right more than once...

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[HarmonyRockets]

26. And she's been wrong

about a hundred times. She's a right-wing conservative from the UK who is friends with Milo Yiannopoulos and throws out absolutely ridiculous, stupid stuff almost daily to troll liberals. Even Milo has admitted she is trolling. Almost the entire internet has been laughing at Mensch and her ludicrous conspiracy theories and trolling for a while now, yet some people still start threads over her here almost daily. And we go through the exact same thing, every single time. Go back and look at all the claims she has made. Many of them are completely nonsensical. For instance, she claimed that the justice department has already started the impeachment process, when it's actually congress that initiates impeachment. She has called almost everyone a "russian agent" at this point, such as Jeremy Corbyn. Some of her claims have been just laugh-out-loud funny.

The situation with Louise Mensch is getting out of hand. She is trolling us HARD. Many liberals want everything she posts to be true, so they believe it. She has been proven completely unreliable many, many times now. She purposely throws in something true every once in a while. It is her tactic.

[L. Coyote]

7. Only if you want to be the first one to know.

Exclusive: Sources with links to the intelligence community now confirm that a tape exists of Paul Ryan, the Speaker of the House, discussing how Russian money could be funneled without detection to target GOP campaigns, including Ryan’s.

These sources report that Mr. Ryan is also on tape discussing how he can best use and disseminate Wikileaks material that was hacked from the DNC by Russia in order to win both his own election and election for Trump.

Further, sources say, the tape of Mr. Ryan discussing his knowledge of Russia funding the GOP that has previously been published in the Washington Post is in fact a small fragment of a much more damaging tape.

Patribotics exclusively broke the news of that tape one week before it was released in the mainstream media.

MORE: https://patribotics.blog/2017/06/09/paul-ryan-taped-with-russian-ambassador-on-gop-money-laundering/

[luvMIdog]

2. oh please don't let that be just a tease.. please..

[L. Coyote]

8. Does it read like a tease?

.... Separate sources with links to the intelligence community and justice departments now confirm that there are at least two tapes of Speaker Ryan discussing Russian money, however. One is the tape that I reported and which the Washington Post published. The second, however, is indeed of Ryan speaking with Kislyak at the convention. Sources report that there is signals intelligence, or SIGINT, of Paul Ryan discussing Russian money reaching the GOP and being covered up through companies using the ruling on Citizens United. Further, there is signals intelligence connecting Ryan to discussions on how best to use hacked data from Wikileaks to benefit Trump’s campaign and his own as well as the GOP in general.

Sources with links to the intelligence community report a widespread belief that Mr. Ryan is being forced to act sympathetic towards Trump and dismissive of the Russian probe because Russia holds kompromat upon him. There is anger, these sources say, amongst rank and file intelligence agents at Paul Ryan’s gross defense of Trump and rank misstatements of Director Comey’s bombshell testimony. Affirmation that Paul Ryan is on tape discussing Wikileaks and Russian money laundering with Sergei Kislyak at the GOP convention – as well as the extensive further tapes that exist of the Washington Post discussion where Ryan admits knowledge of the conspiracy to wash Russian money – may have been passed on in detail in order to remind the Speaker that if Russia holds kompromat on him so does the United States, and he may wish to reconsider his position before constantly defending treason by Donald Trump.

https://patribotics.blog/2017/06/09/paul-ryan-taped-with-russian-ambassador-on-gop-money-laundering/

[luvMIdog]

10. I didn't click on the link because I'm not familiar with that source & I'm more or less asking if

that is a credible source of news. Myself.. I have no idea. I'm hesitant to click on links from sources I don't know because I'm paranoid about phishing and malware. I'm sure my ignorance on just what is able to be spread from clicking on certain sites makes me very wary. It was not meant as a insult or a jest.

[L. Coyote]

14. It is Louise mensch's blog domain.

Not the first time she has been posted here, 30,000 views on this one: https://www.democraticunderground.com/12512604434

[luvMIdog]

15. ok I didn't know what was her link.

[bresue]

18. In a way, it makes sense.....

because the IC could not serveil a US citizen, but if they were recording the Russian agent's conversation, which we know was true at the time, then I could see this being played so.

Anyone who talked to the Russian at the convention is fair game.

[L. Coyote]

20. Anyone engaging in criminal conduct is fair game. Under FISA, others are protected.

Incidental collection is protected, to a point.

[malaise]

3. Is that the same Lyin' Ryan who thinks Putin pays Trump?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html
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A month before Donald Trump clinched the Republican nomination, one of his closest allies in Congress — House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy — made a politically explosive assertion in a private conversation on Capitol Hill with his fellow GOP leaders: that Trump could be the beneficiary of payments from Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016, exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia.

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthy’s assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy.


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Connect the dots

[sheshe2]

11. You have to think about what Ryan did...

Swore everyone to secrecy. Why the need for that if it was just a hardy har har moment or....unfounded and an absurd conspiracy theory.

I say Ryan is up to his neck in this he knows the truth and the Con is as guilty as hell. There sure is an ugly odor coming out of that party.

[malaise]

13. And went on the media to dismiss it as a joke

They're all in this thing together

[sheshe2]

17. Sadly true.

[Volaris]

31. If Donald fucking trump can rid us of Ryan and McConnell by going to prison

And taking them with him, I swear I will go on facebook and send a thank you note to every fucking Deplorable I can find.

[malaise]

33. +1,000

It may just be worth it

[bresue]

19. And if they only were joking as they profess to media questions....

Why make it so hush, hush? If it was a joke....what's the big deal? A lot of things are not adding up....or maybe they are adding up and the truth will finally come out.

[malaise]

21. They're adding up alright

Truth will out - every last drop

[Hoyt]

4. Not Patribotics again. Would be great of true, though.

[The_jackalope]

16. Well, she did report on the tape that the Post later released a partial transcript

Her report was a week before the WaPo story. So somebody gave her good info.

[Thomas Hurt]

9. Believe it, sure just as soon as the tapes are released and verified...

otherwise this tape is just like fat fascist 45's tapes.

[The_jackalope]

12. If these tapes in fact exist

(and we have good reason to believe so, given that a partial transcript of one of them has already been published)

Then Bobby "Three Sticks" Mueller already has them, and it's half past too fucking late for Paul Ryan. Couldn't happen to a more deserving waste of skin.

This is why Citizens United HAS TO GO!

Link to the mentioned transcript:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/national/read-the-transcript-of-the-conversation-among-gop-leaders-obtained-by-the-post/2209/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_transcript-6pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

[Volaris]

32. First rumor of this was that McConnell was on that call as well.

[LonePirate]

22. I need another and unrelated source to confirm this before I believe it.

This stuff is almost starting to read like a spy novel. It's almost unbelievable and very well could be. I'm reserving judgment for now.

[tblue37]

29. WaPo had an article about it a few weeks ago. Ryan denied it, so they played him the tape and he

then changed his story to say they were just joking.

[politicat]

30. Spy novel world became a near certainty when Citizens United became our reality.

Our elections are ludicrously expensive, but they're still chump change in terms of oil money, and oil money is scared. Or tech money. It's grotesque, but someone who wants to buy access can do so on the interest on the interest of a year's income. A congressman is a cheap date -- $500K is more than sufficient to fund a sympathetic incumbent in a gerrymandered district. A senator is a little more pricey, but still well under the seven figure mark. One doesn't have to fully fund the campaign, just has to subsidize the extra ads and SuperPAC ads/staff.

Nobody believes the technical lie that SuperPACs don't coordinate with the candidate. The FEC is intentionally toothless, because neither party can stand down while the other can exploit the rules. It's mutually assured destruction of the sort that kept piracy and privateers on the high seas long after most maritime powers really wanted to be done.

We've been seeing funneled foreign funds for multiple cycles now; they used to have to pretend the money came bundled from a church group headed by some dual citizen second cousin with a used car lot in Pasadena, but now? With enough shell companies, they don't even need to pay in Bitcoin. And shell companies are easy -- you can buy one that's got a decade of credit history for a few thousand. If shiny new is more your style, they're under $1000. Chump change.

Follow the money. Always follow the money.

[taught_me_patience]

23. This is probably fake news

but if true, the most explosive political scandal of my lifetime.

[demmiblue]

25. Unrec. for source. n/t

[Major Nikon]

28. I'm reccing your unrec

[triron]

27. kick for visibility