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Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 11:14 AM Jun 2017

As a Baby Nurse close to 30 years ago....in the interest of public safety, it was MY responsibility

to make sure that I learned everything that I needed to know BEFORE I took care of patients.
I was NOT allowed to treat a patient, give a medication or perform a procedure UNTIL I was well-versed
in what I was doing.
I do NOT give this Orange Menance a pass.
There is NOBODY that has EVER been elected POTUS that "knew" the job...that is why they hired people around them to help.
But this POS-POTUS did the exact opposite. He FIRED the career people around him that could have helped him.
The fault for HIS ignorance lies with HIM. He doesn't get a pass for not learning the job.
Hell...my incompetence could only have killed one person at a time. His incompetence can kill millions.
It is NOT an acceptable learning curve.

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As a Baby Nurse close to 30 years ago....in the interest of public safety, it was MY responsibility (Original Post) Horse with no Name Jun 2017 OP
hey once Red Lobster would not hire me to carry a stupid tray of food because I had no experience ha luvMIdog Jun 2017 #1
That is important Horse with no Name Jun 2017 #4
I remember being a waitress years ago, (when we were called "waitress") and Maraya1969 Jun 2017 #13
I don't keep up with the lingo - are they now "food providers"? George II Jun 2017 #19
Servers MoonRiver Jun 2017 #20
True, true. tazkcmo Jun 2017 #2
Comparatively speaking...yes.... Horse with no Name Jun 2017 #3
I hear ya! tazkcmo Jun 2017 #5
Some days that is all you have during this shitshow...n/t Horse with no Name Jun 2017 #15
Trump can argue that he was unfamiliar with procedures and protocols, procon Jun 2017 #6
Usually a person in his position realizes that he/she lacks the knowledge necessary for the job. Arkansas Granny Jun 2017 #7
It might be HuskyOffset Jun 2017 #11
Hey, my favorite psych thing! dhol82 Jun 2017 #29
With a little... 3catwoman3 Jun 2017 #33
Little Peter! Not knowing how dumb he is! sprinkleeninow Jun 2017 #38
Well said. nt tblue37 Jun 2017 #8
Great analogy. Thank you judesedit Jun 2017 #9
He claimed he knew better than anybody else how to do it... Wounded Bear Jun 2017 #10
K&R gademocrat7 Jun 2017 #12
Stubbornness dogandturtlemom Jun 2017 #14
BINGO! dogandturtlemom! montana_hazeleyes Jun 2017 #28
Welcome aboard from a not-yet-retired PNP. 3catwoman3 Jun 2017 #34
Republican Pres Trump is WILLFULLY ignorant. Refuses to study. Incapable of studying. It's very bad. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #16
'I'll choose the best people for my administration!' n/t leftstreet Jun 2017 #17
Exactly and I like the honorarium you placed before POTUS. Would dae Jun 2017 #18
Brilliant analogy! Thanks! eom LittleGirl Jun 2017 #21
Professional jobs are like that Warpy Jun 2017 #22
I've been a lawyer since 1992 and I ONLY take cases I have experience with. no_hypocrisy Jun 2017 #23
Looking at the people he chose justgamma Jun 2017 #24
He was running against "the best prepared candidate in the history of our country" Shoonra Jun 2017 #25
Thank you, agree 100% FlightRN Jun 2017 #26
No, he gets no pass from me....nt Heartstrings Jun 2017 #27
Nailed it. mahina Jun 2017 #30
Key: "He FIRED the career people around him that could have helped him." SunSeeker Jun 2017 #31
Guess what? It hasn't changed anywhere but in my companies upper management tavalon Jun 2017 #32
The "a nurse is a nurse is a nurse" BS infuriates me. 3catwoman3 Jun 2017 #35
My mother was a nurse in the Army Blue_Roses Jun 2017 #37
Ding, ding, ding, ding...agree iluvtennis Jun 2017 #36

Maraya1969

(22,479 posts)
13. I remember being a waitress years ago, (when we were called "waitress") and
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 12:52 PM
Jun 2017

you had to work your way up. You couldn't go into a nice restaurant where their were going to be big bills and big tips right away. I started at an iHop and worked my way up to a fancy restaurant.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
5. I hear ya!
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 11:23 AM
Jun 2017

Thanks for having a sense of humor in a storm of crap! I feel the same way about his "curve" except I see it as an eternal straight away.

procon

(15,805 posts)
6. Trump can argue that he was unfamiliar with procedures and protocols,
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 11:59 AM
Jun 2017

but he can't excuse his lack of character, honor and integrity. Would any other reasonable person believe that Trump was acting on the up and up when he told everyone to get out of the room so he could get Comey alone?

This own staff knew he was up to no good and Reince Priebus was even worried enough to open the door only to be waved off by the president so he could continue pressuring Comey about Mike Flynn.

Arkansas Granny

(31,515 posts)
7. Usually a person in his position realizes that he/she lacks the knowledge necessary for the job.
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 12:06 PM
Jun 2017

They bring in people with knowledge and experience to help them and teach them.

Trump won't admit that he's not up to the job. The same ego that wouldn't let him drop out of a race that he didn't really want to win, won't allow him to appoint people who might appear better qualified than he is.

HuskyOffset

(888 posts)
11. It might be
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 12:45 PM
Jun 2017

the Dunning–Kruger effect. He might literally not realize how dumb he is, all the while thinking he's the smartest guy in the room. If this is the case, I'd like to see his face at the moment that balloon pops.

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
33. With a little...
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 12:09 AM
Jun 2017

...Peter Principle thrown in.

(After I typed that, I realized the unintentional double entendre' potential lurking in the "little peter" phrasing.)

sprinkleeninow

(20,239 posts)
38. Little Peter! Not knowing how dumb he is!
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 03:29 AM
Jun 2017

It really is beyond sad. It's unnerving for us all who are sickened on a daily basis, or insert appropiate word here _______.

Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
10. He claimed he knew better than anybody else how to do it...
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 12:32 PM
Jun 2017

He said he would hire "the best people."

Gee, do you suppose he lied?

dogandturtlemom

(41 posts)
14. Stubbornness
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 01:03 PM
Jun 2017

I agree with Horse with no name. I am retired Pediatric Nurse Practitioner. How can anyone possibly excuse this presidents behavior when he has violated expected standards of society, not just the presidency, his entire life. The Republican Congress is only defending him for their own greedy agenda. They are in it for themselves and have no regard for their country or constituents!

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
34. Welcome aboard from a not-yet-retired PNP.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 12:18 AM
Jun 2017

I've been at it since 1976, and am wondering how many more years I want to continue. I used to be afraid I would miss it, but since the advent of electronic medical records, which I detest, I no longer worry about that as much.

It has been asked, in what other very important job, would lack of knowledge and experience be considered a desirable quality. One would not hire a surgeon who had never done the operation you needed, or a pilot who had never flown, or a builder who had never put up a house. Why should that be different for POTUS?

dae

(3,396 posts)
18. Exactly and I like the honorarium you placed before POTUS. Would
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 01:27 PM
Jun 2017

POS happen to stand for Potentate of Stupid?

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
22. Professional jobs are like that
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 02:39 PM
Jun 2017

You go to school to prepare you to be able to learn the nuances on the job. Lawyer, engineer, doctor, nurse, architect, all the professions are like that.

Orange Pustule had most of November plus December and half of January to sit and listen with his fat mouth shut to what the job entailed. We know Obama and his administration tried to bring that blustering halfwit up to speed. They didn't fail. He did.

No, I don't give him a pass. He knows less about government than most high school kids and what he does know, he hates.

He is incapable of listening or learning. He has to go.

no_hypocrisy

(46,086 posts)
23. I've been a lawyer since 1992 and I ONLY take cases I have experience with.
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 03:33 PM
Jun 2017

My client doesn't deserve "on the job training" with dubious results and having to pay for my training.

justgamma

(3,665 posts)
24. Looking at the people he chose
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 04:51 PM
Jun 2017

the only qualifications needed was the hatred of Obama and a willingness to believe any cockamamie conspiracy theory from the right.

Shoonra

(521 posts)
25. He was running against "the best prepared candidate in the history of our country"
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 06:05 PM
Jun 2017

Trump said he knew the system. Even though he never held public office.

At the same time, Obama and others said that Hillary was the most thoroughly prepared candidate in American history. She had been First Lady, Senator, Secretary of State, and been on various projects, such as a lawyer working on the Congressional committee handling the Nixon impeachment.

We knew the difference. And yet we chose Trump. We taught Hillary a lesson we'll never forget.

FlightRN

(194 posts)
26. Thank you, agree 100%
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 06:19 PM
Jun 2017

He gets no pass from me either for his unacceptable incompetence, neither does the complicit and despicable current GOP.

This notion of "he's new to politics," or "he's still learning his job," it's all sh*t. These horrible humans such as McConnell, Ryan, etc are just using that as an excuse to enact their atrocities. I'm sick of MSM still largely playing that card as well. People are going to die. Period.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
31. Key: "He FIRED the career people around him that could have helped him."
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 08:39 PM
Jun 2017

AND he left their positions, especially in the State Department UNFILLED.

The sudden sacking of all of the Assistant U.S. Attorneys at DOJ without any replacement was obstruction of justice as well.


This was not just ignorance, this was an intentional shit show.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
32. Guess what? It hasn't changed anywhere but in my companies upper management
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 11:19 PM
Jun 2017

and since we're unionized, we won't allow "a nurse is a nurse is a nurse". I am a highly trained NICU nurse and yet they want the privilege of sending me to any unit and giving me any assignment. They won't win. It's unsafe.

Just a small diversion from the truly important part which is we have a pResident who doesn't have a clue what he's doing and that's dangerous and wrong.

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
35. The "a nurse is a nurse is a nurse" BS infuriates me.
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 12:51 AM
Jun 2017

I have been a pediatric nurse practitioner for 41 years, as of next week. Strictly out-patient. I would be useless in your work setting, and just about any other, as well.

After 4 years of active duty in the Air Force nurse corps, as a PNP, I was a reservist for 8 years. The first 7 years, I always did my reserve time in the base pediatric clinic wherever ny husband was stationed. The final year, "they" decided they wanted everyone to have "war readiness skills," and I got put in the ER at Andrews AFB for a week, on the evening shift. The charge nurse said, "Here, I'll show you around tonight, and you can be in charge for the rest of the week." Not only no, but HELL NO! I told her I had been doing diaper rashes and ear infections since forever, and there was no way I was fit to be in charge in an ER.

Blue_Roses

(12,894 posts)
37. My mother was a nurse in the Army
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 01:20 AM
Jun 2017

during WWII and was stationed in the Philippines. I have so much respect for your profession. My mother passed away 3 years ago and hearing these stories make me miss her so much.

Our military nurses in WWII were an unspoken hero in that war. We see so many movies about male soldiers, but rarely anything remotely resembling what our nurses went through. We need to change that.

Thank-you for your service and please know you are very appreciated, even if you never hear it.

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