The GOP is seriously considering the creation of a constitutional crisis...

[kentuck]

From the way they have acted in their Committee hearings, by shutting down questioning by some Democrats (Kamala Harris), they appear ready to support the entire shutdown of the investigation into Russian meddling in our elections and any suspicious activities by the Trump campaign and transition team.

If Trump shuts down the Special Prosecutor, Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan will go along with him and take their chances in the next election, rather than drag this out until then. They would prefer to take a hit now than wait to take a hit later.

It is much more a real possibility, in my opinion, than we might think. They are carrying the water for Donald Trump in this matter. We do not see any independent thought from the GOP.

[dweller]

1. seriously considering?

actively implementing, more likely...

[kentuck]

3. Very possible...

They have never believed there was anything illegal or suspicious about the Russian connection to the Trump campaign.

[dawg]

9. No. It's not that they don't believe it.

They just don't care.

[FiveGoodMen]

27. Agreed. The GOP leadership isn't stupid. They're evil.

And not the least bit ashamed of it.

That should tell you something about their 'faith' -- if they really believed in the god of the bible, they wouldn't dare lie, cheat, steal, harm the poor and helpless...

[spanone]

6. fox is already there....

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[underpants]

2. I'd say Trump is already finished in public opinion but you are right

The longer this goes on and the closer it gets to next November, the worse it is for them.

[pbmus]

4. The if in your supposition is not possible.

Thanks to Lordy be, ExDirector Comey...

[AlexSFCA]

5. it's obvious

that trump plans on firing mueller and shutting down the investigation. This is witht the help of new fbi director who has likey pledged loyalty to trump.

If the reports are true that Ryan and possible mcconnell both benefited from russian donors, then it is their highest priority to shut down the investigation.

[justiceischeap]

7. Again, the only person who can fire Mueller is Rosenstein

So Trump would have to first fire Rosenstein, then replace him with a toady willing to be complicit in Obstruction and Abuse of Power to get Mueller shut down.

I don't think he (or his staff) is that stupid.

[kentuck]

12. Or fire Jeff Sessions and...

and have his replacement fire Rosenstein?

[justiceischeap]

13. Either way, Rosenstein would have to go to get Mueller fired. nt

[kentuck]

14. No. If a new AG is appointed to replace Jeff Sessions...

Rosenstein would no longer have the authority he now has.

[justiceischeap]

17. Again, I think the new AG would have to be willing to make him or herself complicit

in the matter. He'd have to nominate his personal atty, I think, to find someone willing to wade into this morass and become, at this point, an accomplice.

I could be totally wrong that they'll go down this path but it only makes things worse for him and the Repubs in the long run if they meddle with the investigation.

Every poll that has been taken shows more and more support for impeachment. Eventually the GOP will clue in on this--probably right around the time they pass tax cuts.

[AlexSFCA]

24. Sessions will resign

and who said that Rosenstein won't 'resign'? Replacement with loyalists and immidiately gaslighting.

I beleive trump can only be forcefully removed. He'll stop at nothing including nuclear threat to stay in power and complete transition to authiritarian oligarchy. We are at the very very beginning of it all. Nothing is off the table at this point including the collapse of the US economy.

The curcumstances of current events are different from anything frim history books so there is no precedent or rules. All you need to keep in mind is his goal. And it will become obvious to you how he can possibly achieve all that. Not pretty, I know.

[kentuck]

25. And someone like Chris Christie would take his place...

...and would not hesitate to do the bidding of Donald J Trump.

[AlexSFCA]

30. easily

congress will confirm in no time. It is no longer possible for trump to continue with Sessions at the Justice dept. so I am sure backdoor deals are being made so seasions keeps his mouth shut after departure.

[pbmus]

8. Not likely....

http://heavy.com/news/2017/05/could-donald-trump-fire-have-authority-power-to-robert-mueller/

[justiceischeap]

15. It's sticky for Sessions to get involved because he's recused himself

theoretically. Rosenstein is the "top boss" for the Russia investigation. And if Rosenstein goes for the sake of shutting down the investigation , that's another charge against Trump and Sessions if the matter is investigated again (say should we win the House).

Also, the NY AG is, I'm pretty certain, investigating Trump and his org on other matters.

Finally, the statute of limitations on Obstruction is 5 years, so if we win in 2020, the case can be reopened.

[pbmus]

16. Exactly/...this is the trumpian Saturday night massacre...

[saidsimplesimon]

10. I agree kentuck.

Yes, party before patriotism is what I expected. They must feel the pain before they will act.

One of the reasons my nightmares continue. I get enough sleep but it is less than peaceful.

[Takket]

11. imagine someone is robbing your loved one, in broad daylight..........

there are cops standing right there. you run over to them and point at the robber who is attacking your loved one.

They look over there and shrug. "So what?" They say.

Now what do you do? What is your recourse when the law would rather allow a crime to go on than intervene? Who do you go to?

and then on top of it, they arrest you for being a "leaker".

[OregonBlue]

18. Chances are very good that McConnell is involved. I know he received 2.5 million from a PAC run by

one of Putin's Oligarch buddies. Several GOP senators did. It's possible a great number of the GOP is also dirty.

[workinclasszero]

19. So is everybody ready to admit that

the election was actually a coup brought about by an act of war perpetrated by the Russian government and its dictator Putin with seemingly full collusion of the republican party and conservative "news" outlets like Fox?

Oh and not to forget Jill Stein and the Green party, BoB's like TYT's and rich so-called libs like Sarandon.

I have to wonder how deep the planning was between these groups and Moscow?

[Mme. Defarge]

20. Remember that Rosenstein refused

to state under oath that Mueller would not be fired.

[tableturner]

21. Agree with the Heavy article. With Mueller's firing, hell follows, 100 times the hell of Comey's.

He's done either way.

Edited to add: He may as well go ahead and fire Mueller.....he knows he is caught, and that Mueller will bring him down. The firing of Mueller won't work, and deep down he knows the chances are slim, but if he doesn't throw every hail Mary he's got (and there will be more), he may as well just march himself down to a federal prison, because again.....he's caught and he knows it.

[kentuck]

23. Why so?

Trump followers would not turn against him or the GOP for such an action. More than likely, they would be even more united.

No doubt, liberals and the media would complain but to what impact?

[pbmus]

26. His minions are becoming less and less as we speak...

Our institutions are still working, even though our house and senate is lacking...

I also believe that a firing of mueller would be a bridge toooooooo far for many repukes....you know that we only need 26 seats in the house and we are going to get that in 2018.

[L. Coyote]

22. They are a constitutional crisis, but I'm not so alarmist. Obstruction is not new.

They just hadn't fixed enough elections until 2016 to control all three branches.

The crisis is that the GOP controls the government and they are not the majority party by along shot.

[Egnever]

28. Oh good lord

While I agree they will try to shut whatever they can down that exposes the truth.

Kamala was not shut down. She was firing non stop questions and refusing to let the witness answer. That is a bullshit tactic and was rightly told to allow the witness to answer.

[pbmus]

31. She knew the answer was going to be bullshit before the answerer answered

Therefore the nonstop questions to at the least get the questions into the record.

[Egnever]

33. Again bullshit tactic

and rightly admonished regardless of what she thought the answers would be.

[pbmus]

34. Bullshit tactic for bullshit antics....fire with fire....not BB guns at a gunfight...

Sick and tired of democrats having to lick the balls of repukes....

[Egnever]

35. That's fine but

You don't get to cry poor me afterwords,

[pbmus]

36. That is exactly what repukes do every time....

[Egnever]

37. And we rightly ridicule them for it.

[pbmus]

38. Ridicule does not work on the mind of a deplorable...

They are beyond ridicule....

[Initech]

29. The GOP has put party power over the people as their main agenda.

It's seriously scary.

[pbmus]

32. This.....has been happening for at least since raygun....

[kentuck]

39. It appears this is being seriously considered.

Democrats should boycott Congressional proceedings if they attempt such an incendiary action.