"If Trump fires Bob Mueller it would be like Watergate on steroids."

[DemocratSinceBirth]

-Paul Butler


Adam Schiff weighs in as well:

Link to tweet

If President fired Bob Mueller, Congress would immediately re-establish independent counsel and appoint Bob Mueller. Don't waste our time.

[NightWatcher]

1. If he fires Mueller, do they really even need to investigate any further?

This would be the 4th person who was looking at his activities that he has improperly fired and the equivalent of screaming "I'm guilty of everything and more" from a megaphone.

They should go ahead and remove him at that point.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. At the end of the day impeachment is a political process.

We need to win the House to begin proceedings.

[Kablooie]

13. I wouldn't change the devotion of a single Republican so, yes, they do.

It's going to take a lot more than racketeering, money laundering, defying the Constitution, and open treason to bring him down.
The whole situation is controlled by Republicans and they are fine with their president doing all these things.

Until Trump's popularity with the public drops into the 20's and Republicans become scared of their positions will anything be done.
It all hinges on making nearly all of America disgusted with Trump before he can be destroyed.

[cilla4progress]

17. I agree.

That's why it's taking time. The public have to be convinced and come along.

[LudwigPastorius]

46. "It all hinges on making nearly all of America disgusted with Trump before he can be destroyed."

...which may be why Trump seems especially concerned about exoneration concerning the Steele dossier.


As you say, the GOP will back that bloated, orange meat sack through any number of crimes, but they might have a hard time ignoring a Russian, Trumpian pee party in full HD.

Because of their constituents, and because Jesus.

[blue neen]

56. Excellent point.

[Salviati]

2. That really should be the go signal for an immediate general strike.

The hour he fires Bob Mueller is the hour everyone should take to the streets.

[virtualobserver]

3. I hope that the Republicans will do that....

...and by hope....I mean they BETTER fucking do it.

[pbmus]

4. Lmao...

[Trust Buster]

5. I disagree. Anyone that thinks that the Republicans would re-establish the Independent Counsel

Statute if Trump fires Mueller just DOES NOT understand the state of today's Republican Party. This softness is why we lose so much lately IMO.

[kentuck]

16. But the Congressional investigations and the FBI investigation would continue?

even if the Special Counsel is fired?

Now, if they shut down the Congressional investigations, that would be another problem altogether.

[Eyeball_Kid]

32. There is no choice.

The very integrity of the Constitution is at stake. If Mueller is fired, Republicans either act, or they actively partake in the coup. If they fail to act, the US' overthrow by Russia is complete.

[slumcamper]

53. There IS a choice,

You've expressed it as "either/or."

I understand your point, but (to use their own vernacular) "those people" do not see it as we do.

[Trust Buster]

54. Between their voter suppression efforts and collusive hacking, they already committed a coup.

They won't change their stripes now. They are about to vote on healthcare legislation without a single hearing. They denied a twice elected President his right to nominate a Supreme Court Justice. What is it about "they don't give a damn" do you not understand ?

[davekriss]

40. I agree with Trust Buster here

[hedda_foil]

6. I hope he knows what he's talking about.

The teenagers in the House have a lot of clout and the Senate may be problematic too.

[cilla4progress]

8. If that happens

We are going to be called upon to overthrow fascism here.

[mopinko]

14. yup. people will be in the streets.

it will make the spontaneous outbreak after the travel ban look like a meeting of the mickey mouse club.

[MFM008]

9. That will

Be shocking.

[kentuck]

10. Of course, they would have to get it by McConnell and Ryan.

But, they would probably have the numbers if something like that happens?

[kairos12]

11. In Schiff's dreams. The Reich Wing would never reinstate the Independent Counsel Law.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. The chaos might cause the GOP to act. I could see world markets tumble

The chaos might cause the GOP to act. I could see world markets tumble as investors flee American companies and sell American dollars.

[kentuck]

18. They would be inclined to appoint a bi-partisan committee to replace Special Counsel.

in my opinion.

[kairos12]

22. Kentuck, I hope you are right.

[kentuck]

28. I do too.

They are so emboldened.

[cilla4progress]

15. Listening to Schiff

On Tweety.

[superpatriotman]

19. Which Congress?

This Congress?

Are you out of your ever-loving mind?!

Twitler is above the law. End of thread.

[Duppers]

27. My thoughts too.

Will happen ONLY if they think their congressional seats are in jeopardy.

Have the RWNJs grown brains yet?


Pitchforks to the streets, folks.

[johnnyrocket]

20. Why can't someone who Trump CAN'T fire investigate this administration?

We need answers!

[Azathoth]

23. Ken Starr killed that

It was his out-of-control partisan antics that led Democrats to support abolishing the Office of Independent Counsel. Republicans had been opposed to the office ever since it led to the Iran-Contra investigation that tarnished Saint Reagan.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. There always has been a mechanism to remove the special counsel...

There always has been a mechanism to remove the special counsel IF the person removing him is willing to suffer the political fallout.

[Azathoth]

50. That's somewhat wrong. The OIC was a Congressionally-created office

He or she could only be removed by impeachment, or for very specific causes by the Attorney General. And, most importantly, removal by an AG was subject to judicial review. The district court had the authority to override the AG's decision if it violated the statute. At no time did the President have a direct say.

Mueller's appointment as "special counsel" is pursuant solely to internal DOJ regulations, which are entirely a creature of the Executive Branch's power. Trump can order the DOJ to fire Mueller, or he can order that the regulations be changed so he can fire Mueller personally. Or he can just ignore the regs and fire Mueller and call it a day. Who, besides Mueller himself perhaps, would have the standing and the political willingness to challenge such a move in court?

[Azathoth]

21. Schiff is blowing smoke. The GOP Congress are taking healthcare away from millions

You think the firestorm over Mueller's firing would suddenly convince them to find a conscience?

It's only a matter of time before senior GOP members of Congress begin calling on Trump to fire Mueller.

[TEB]

25. This is a twilight zone episode 143 days so far

[TNNurse]

26. If he fired Mueller, it would be as admission of guilt.

[Ligyron]

29. and the GOP will say: "whatta ya gonna do about it sissies?"

[Still In Wisconsin]

30. Is there actual talk of TRUMP firing Mueller?

Anything beyond (very reasonable) speculation that he might eventually do so, I mean?

[MoonRiver]

34. One of his spokes idiots said Chump was considering it.

Can't remember the guy's name. Never saw him before. But I've been watching him talking this up for the last couple of hours.

[Still In Wisconsin]

35. Well, it wouldn't surprise me.

It would be politically stupid, but very much in character, obviously.

[MoonRiver]

42. Yep. Maybe this will tank his poll numbers into the low 20s

and the House RepubliCONS will be forced to impeach, to save their own hides. Unlikely, I know, but possibly the only way we can get rid of this freak of nature before 2020.

[janx]

43. No.

The original source is from Newsmax.

[Johnny2X2X]

31. Free Press

There was a free press back then. Today there is a State run media that is under the control of the White House. No matter what they do they'll use this media to convince enough people they didn't do anything wrong.

[Initech]

33. It already is Watergate on steriods. This would be Watergate on crystal meth!

[Still In Wisconsin]

36. That gives me an image...

of Donny Two Scoops tweaking in the Oval Office, Twitter fingers at the ready. Hell, maybe that's how we got covfefe!

[bora13]

38. say my name

"Yours is just some tepid, off-brand, generic cola. What I'm making is classic Coke."

classic watergate. classic blue meth watergate indeed.

[Initech]

39. Where's Walter White when you need him?

[WheelWalker]

47. Phencyclidine. Watergate on Angel Dust.

[davekriss]

37. Firing Mueller...

...would be a blatant admission of guilt. But that won't stop Trump. Nor should we expect the traitorous Republicans in congress to take steps to restore our republic. Basically it's game over (or so I fear).

[TomCADem]

41. It Would Be A Gangster Move Just To Show...

...that he had the GOP Congress in his pocket and that the RW media can ignore anything.

[Amaryllis]

44. The Repubs would go along with that? I sure hope so.

[Honeycombe8]

45. I wonder why he thinks THIS Congress would do that. nt

[kpete]

48. They don't care

they will proceed

we must resist.

kp

[rdking647]

49. i hope he does fire him

just to see the GOP implode

[McCamy Taylor]

51. He can't fire him. Only Sessions can fire him. And he is supposed to be recused.

[briv1016]

55. Rosenstein is in charge of Mueller.

Donald will order Rosenstein to fire Mueller and when/if he refuses Donald will fire him and appoint someone that will. It's the Nixon model.

[liberal N proud]

52. Firing Mueller would indict him without question

Nothing would make him appear more guilty.