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Pachamama

(16,886 posts)
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:21 AM Jun 2017

Who uses the term "Anglo-Saxon" to describe someone? Just saw on MSNBC the shooter at the Baseball

...field where members of congress were shot described as being "Anglo-Saxon"....then silly Stephanie Ruhle of MSNBC repeats the description.....My teen daughter who is 17 looked at me puzzled and asked the same in addition to starting to describe who the Anglos Saxons were and she thought that was bizarre too and we have never seen a form or questionnaire that asks or gives that as an option...

It was Rep. joe Barton of Texas who said that....does he identify himself and his 10 year old son standing next to him as Anglo Saxon?

It was strange and then to hear the word repeated gave it an even stranger reference to hear...can't say I remember ever hearing that...

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Who uses the term "Anglo-Saxon" to describe someone? Just saw on MSNBC the shooter at the Baseball (Original Post) Pachamama Jun 2017 OP
The term explicitly implies British descent... Adrahil Jun 2017 #1
My daughter said "Maybe he is actually Norse-Gael"? Pachamama Jun 2017 #8
Your daughter is awesome! NT Adrahil Jun 2017 #9
I think so too... Pachamama Jun 2017 #15
lololol . .n/t annabanana Jun 2017 #21
WASP White Anglo Saxon Protestant... term used frequently in the Reagan Era as I recall MedusaX Jun 2017 #2
Think WASP Lithos Jun 2017 #3
I grew up in Germany & came to US as a teenager... Pachamama Jun 2017 #11
It's an English colonial term Lithos Jun 2017 #14
He was being careful. Cut him some slack. He'd just been shot at. nolabear Jun 2017 #4
Not being critical of a person having been shot at - in fact, when a person is speaking like he was, Pachamama Jun 2017 #13
Gotcha. It was a strange phrase to hear. I saw it and could almost hear him thinking. nolabear Jun 2017 #20
I think it's an old-fashioned term for "Caucasian" FakeNoose Jun 2017 #5
As opposed to a Celt? leftstreet Jun 2017 #6
As opposed to Gaelic exboyfil Jun 2017 #7
People say this as a synonym for white. Really there would be few to zero pure SweetieD Jun 2017 #10
Yup. Strange. Igel Jun 2017 #12
"Anglo" is the Texas term for a non-Hispanic white meow2u3 Jun 2017 #16
Bingo, it's a borderline racist term down there, "Anglo" v. "Mexican". BARTON is a raging TeaBagger. UTUSN Jun 2017 #25
They can't bring themselves to admit the shooter was white so they are searching for Nanjeanne Jun 2017 #17
Stupid description Motley13 Jun 2017 #18
Maybe He Thought The Baseball Players Were Normans ProfessorGAC Jun 2017 #19
"Who uses the term "Anglo-Saxon" to describe someone?" BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #22
"White." Iggo Jun 2017 #23
That term was quite commonly used when I was younger as was WASP. Kaleva Jun 2017 #24
I asked the same thing malaise Jun 2017 #26
Someone studying Britain in the 6th century DBoon Jun 2017 #27
 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
1. The term explicitly implies British descent...
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:24 AM
Jun 2017

Though I have heard the term applied to Americans who appear to be of Western Europen descent in general.

Really, it's a euphamism for "super white."

Pachamama

(16,886 posts)
8. My daughter said "Maybe he is actually Norse-Gael"?
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:30 AM
Jun 2017

She loves history and accuracy...

But yes, it was clearly referring to "white".... And we both felt that but had not heard it used previously....

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
3. Think WASP
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:25 AM
Jun 2017

White Anglo Saxon Protestant

Have not thought of that in about 20 years, but yeah it used to be very common

Pachamama

(16,886 posts)
11. I grew up in Germany & came to US as a teenager...
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:35 AM
Jun 2017

Never heard anyone in Europe use that term, but I do recall hearing a few times in my life decades ago the term "WASPY" being used. Honestly didn't know what it meant....

I grew up in Bavaria....we just knew there was Bavaria and everyone else...
(Germans or people who have spent time in Germany will understand the Bavarian view that they are the true Germans)

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
14. It's an English colonial term
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:39 AM
Jun 2017

Used by the missionaries who set about demonstrating the superiority of English culture.

You can think of it was 1930's and 1940's Hollywood stereotype where WASPs carried the world's civilization.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Anglo-Saxon_Protestant

Pachamama

(16,886 posts)
13. Not being critical of a person having been shot at - in fact, when a person is speaking like he was,
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:37 AM
Jun 2017

...they are speaking from the heart and I just found it a term and description I can't recall and when Stephanie Ruhle repeated it, it was something both my daughter and I looked at each other and said "what?"

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
20. Gotcha. It was a strange phrase to hear. I saw it and could almost hear him thinking.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:02 AM
Jun 2017

I was waiting for "Caucasian" as he hesitated, clearly not sure what to say but needing to say he was;t Muslim or black.

Pax. I just want to love on people today.

FakeNoose

(32,620 posts)
5. I think it's an old-fashioned term for "Caucasian"
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:27 AM
Jun 2017

Anglo-Saxon means the person is white and speaks English, or is of English heritage.

Caucasian means the person is white and has European heritage, but not necessarily English-speaking.

So the term Anglo-Saxon is no longer used, and I haven't heard it in quite a while.

SweetieD

(1,660 posts)
10. People say this as a synonym for white. Really there would be few to zero pure
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:34 AM
Jun 2017

Anglo saxons left anyway. Most people in Britain are a mix of various Celtic and germanic groups.


Anyway it is a silly term to continue to use in the US because it accurately describes no one here.

Igel

(35,296 posts)
12. Yup. Strange.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:37 AM
Jun 2017

Sounds like they're not happy to use "anglo", a common moniker where I live for non-Latino white Americans of any background, and are hypercorrecting. Unless, of course, he turns out to be British and from one of the sussexes or Anglia.

"Anglo" is just Spanish (Mexican, in this case) "anglosajon" truncated and then borrowed into English.

I'm "anglo" in no way, but am non-Latino white American. Irish, mostly, and something I find really offensive. (Mostly when I say that I find the person using the word feels a great entitlement to being offended at my offendedness. Meh.)

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
16. "Anglo" is the Texas term for a non-Hispanic white
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:41 AM
Jun 2017

I used to live in Texas. Rep. Barton, who's from Texas, said that when he described the shooter.

UTUSN

(70,674 posts)
25. Bingo, it's a borderline racist term down there, "Anglo" v. "Mexican". BARTON is a raging TeaBagger.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:37 AM
Jun 2017

Nanjeanne

(4,935 posts)
17. They can't bring themselves to admit the shooter was white so they are searching for
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:45 AM
Jun 2017

terms that dance. Almost funny to watch the gymnastics.

ProfessorGAC

(64,988 posts)
19. Maybe He Thought The Baseball Players Were Normans
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:02 AM
Jun 2017

Except for the armor and the swords of stuff, and easy mistake to make.

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