EXCLUSIVE: Intelligence had hot mic hack on Russian Kislyak's phone.

[L. Coyote]

LOL. BUSTED!! I wonder if Jeff Sessions knew about this?
Not to mention candidate Donald Trump?
And everyone else in the Trump campaign meeting with the Russian spymaster?

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https://patribotics.blog/2017/06/13/exclusive-russian-ambassador-kislyaks-phone-hacked-by-five-eyes/

Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak’s phone was both hacked and turned into a ‘hot mike’ for recording conversations by a Five Eyes intelligence agency .....

... a similar ‘SS7’ exploit as that used by consent on the phones of James Comey, and other FBI agents, by the FBI and Justice Department, was placed on the phone of Sergei Kislyak – most certainly without consent – and that the Russian Ambassador to the US not only had his phone bugged, but that his phone was being used as a microphone to record those with whom he was speaking.

Sources do not say when the exploit was placed on Kislyak’s phone. One source speculated that Ambassador Kislyak had only survived in his position in America ‘because of optics’.

The Five Eyes intelligence agreement prevents members of the world’s premier intelligence alliance – America, Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the United Kingdom – from spying on each other’s territories and citizens. However, crucially, embassies, such as those of Ecuador in London and Russia in Washington DC, are regarded as sovereign territory of their native countries. The NSA is free to spy within the Ecuadorean embassy in London, and GCHQ, its British equivalent, is free to spy within Russia’s embassy in DC. ...........

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Louise Mensch again?

I'll believe it when it turns up in a reputable news source.

[L. Coyote]

34. Check NY Times in about two weeks (or months). They get around to reporting Mensch's breaking news.

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[jmg257]

2. And remember - don't forget to donate!

[L. Coyote]

24. Yes, supporting independent journalism is very important.

https://twitter.com/funder

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[jmg257]

32. So is tipping your waiters.

[DefenseLawyer]

3. His shoe was also a telephone.

[Brother Buzz]

12. She said the man in the gabardine suit was a spy.

I said "Be careful his bowtie is really a camera"

[Me.]

4. Interesting

Especially in light of the slip Franken made on Tweety the other night.

[awesomerwb1]

6. Franken slip?

Not a Mensch fan at all. However I've heard she's been right before BUT, I just hope this one is true.

[Me.]

10. Franken: They've intercepted contacts with Kislyak

Senator Al Franken said on Hardball that evidence of a potential third meeting between Kislyak and Sessions includes intercepted communications.

http://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/franken-they-ve-intercepted-contacts-with-kislyak-965823043697

[L. Coyote]

20. Interesting how this gets leaked just after Sessions testifies under oath.

The timing of the leaks from British intelligence and other Europeans seems to be timed to out the LIARS in the Trump Admin. When Flynn was getting away with lying, BOOM.

I love how first they wait for the perjury, then whack the lying troll.

[Me.]

21. I Read Somewhere, A While Ago (LOL)

That the other intelligence agencies had had enough and were going all in/to do their part and help bring 45 & Company down.

[furtheradu]

25. Haven't heard this before

Although I've thought it, many times. I'm out of wifi, couldn't watch video, but this seems to be BIG news, & no one reporting this?

I HOPE(!) Sen. Al doesn't get in trouble for disclosing it.
Thanks for this post.

[Me.]

26. IIRC Larry O'D Referenced That Statement Later On His Show

[furtheradu]

28. Thank You! nt

[L. Coyote]

29. We know the Kushner, Flynn, Kislyak meeting in Trump Tower was monitored, just not how exactly

and the speculation is that Trump was picked up when he phoned in. I think this is what Franken is talking about, the stuff that was in the news and not some classified intelligence. Franken isn't getting intelligence briefings other than what the entire committee he is on gets.

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[furtheradu]

33. Thanks for this.

By the way, where is kushner lately? I get suspicious when he &/or trump kids are "quiet".
Thanks again.

[Achilleaze]

7. What was the slip Franken made?

It's hard to keep up with all these elements.

[CottonBear]

18. What was the slip? I don't have cable news. N/T

[Me.]

19. See Post #10

[DanTex]

5. Louise Mensch stuff belongs in the Creative Speculation forum.

[L. Coyote]

11. Too bad people did not listen to her before they voted! We would be saying Madam president today.

Louise Mensch has been breaking the #TrumpRussia story for nearly a year now.
And she nailed it way ahead of the M$M because she has great sources in the IC.

Too bad people did not listen to her before they voted! Here you go, election day:

FBI has FISA warrant for Trump secret server connected to Russia.

[MineralMan]

8. The fact that Louise Mensch said something is no indication that it is true.

I thought we had learned that by now. It could be true. It could be totally made-up. Without corroboration, it is just something an unreliable blogger has said.

[meow2u3]

9. Don't. You. Believe. It.

Louise Mensch is playing us for fools by planting those false stories, as if liberals were as gullible as the Trumpanzees.

[R B Garr]

13. These kinds of things have already been confirmed when you look at what

Sally Yates got fired for -- reporting to the White House the intelligence they had on Flynn and how it was captured. Some of what Mensch says matches what we already know and has been reported on, so some of it is at least worthwhile to look into. Not all of it is woo.

[L. Coyote]

41. Flynn-Kislyak calls intercepted somehow, but allowed Flynn to lie about content before leaking

All these intercepts come from something.

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[snooper2]

14. This stupid idiot doesn't even know what SS7 stands for LOL

[Trekologer]

15. Nor can it be used to turn a phone into a "hot mike"

[DefenseLawyer]

16. I assume the NSA bugs the phones at the embassy and I assume the Russians know that

But I really find it hard to believe that the Russian Ambassador would be using a cell phone. Forget a SS7 hack, anybody with a Stingray could potentially listen in.

[L. Coyote]

22. Anyone on the internet can see what an SS7 exploit is. It has been big news too.

It is a method to access a secured device, "a telephony signaling protocol used by over 800 telecommunication companies" so maybe Louise could figure it out somehow???

Hackers exploit SS7 vulnerability to bypass two-factor authentication and drain bank accounts
The SS7 security hole has been known for years
By Rob Thubron on May 5, 2017

[snooper2]

35. So she should know what application protocol is being used

Can't be TCAP right, maybe MAP eh?

[Trekologer]

43. That wouldn't allow someone to do what she is claiming

The SS7 vulnerability you linked could potentially affect 2FA using SMS messages (not an app, like Google Authenticator).

It doesn't allow one to turn a cell phone into a hot Mike.

[L. Coyote]

44. Tell that to the people whose bank accounts were emptied.

It is a method of hacking. What you do after you get past the authentication is a secondary question. SS7 is a protocol to communicate with a phone with an exploited vulnerability. No one is claiming it is a method of turning on the microphone, just a method to hack a phone.

[Trekologer]

45. SS7 is NOT a protocol used to communicate with a phone

Signaling System 7 is a way that telephone networks communicate with each other. While the growth of using SIP for voice peering has reduced SS7s use when it comes to landline based service, mobile phone networks still use SS7 almost exclusively to talk with each other.

The SS7 exploit that you reverted to in the previous reply takes advantage of that network to network interface. A nefarious actor, with access to the SS7 network, could tell your mobile phone carrier that your phone is roaming on their network and get your calls and texts forwarded to it. That's how the 2FA issue works. Now, you need more than just the phone number to do this, you need the IMEI and ICCID from the SIM card.

What the SS7 exploit doesn't allow is to is the things that Louise Mench's article says: turn the phone into a "hot mic" or even listen into calls. While there could be a vulnerability on the handset to allow that, it wouldn't be put on with SS7 and the lawful intercept (wiretapping) is done a different way.

[FreepFryer]

17. Distrust but verify. (n/t)

[Kaleva]

23. Hours of bathroom sounds.

[Nevernose]

27. I think it's crazy NOT to assume every Russian official

Is being spied on, as much as possible, by as many intelligence agencies as possible. The same goes for Americans.

[L. Coyote]

31. Precisely. It's also illogical (to be kind) to dismiss IC sources offhand because they're not Ds.

We have a new re-alignment happening in American politics, patriots versus traitors. Those who fear this just delay the day we rid ourselves of the traitors.

It isn't easy fro some people to rise above partisanship. Those seem people are often the hugest critics of the Rs who don't do so.

[trueblue2007]

30. Was TRUMP really friendly with Russian guy KislyAK ??? Maybe they captured him on phone calls

[Me.]

36. Also...IIRC

They found a server in 45's office that was connected to a Russian Bank

[L. Coyote]

37. The Alpha Bank server was registered to Trump, but physically elsewhere.

Another story Mensch broke early!

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[Me.]

38. That's A Bunch Of Research

Thanks

[L. Coyote]

39. ... often mis-interpreted/quoted. Over time? She proves reliable.

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[L. Coyote]

40. Sources refused to say when / how long #Kislyak's phone pwned

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42. She clearly has valid, deep sources...many of her claims have been borne out weeks later. Are

all her sources 100% reliable? Maybe not. Most seem to be.

So I look at her claims as very interesting but not gospel. If I were an investigator, I would use her sources/blog in combination with what else I know and either dismiss or follow up. Either way is useful...pieces of a puzzle...interesting if they fit, interesting if they don't.

And that's what I'll do as an occasional reader. Maybe in this case, there are recordings and that's the bottom line. Perhaps the method of recording isn't right...perhaps the person hacked isn't right...perhaps the technique isn't named correctly. But this counts as 'smoke' in my book, worthy of remembering and following up.