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Today is not a day to make political hay. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 OP
Unfortunately, it only seems to get noticed when "our side" does it. haele Jun 2017 #1
Yeah, today is just an all around bummer Johonny Jun 2017 #2
The news is so much more fun when it's about Russia and obstruction of justice. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #5
The rightwing is clubbing you about the head in the media right now. NutmegYankee Jun 2017 #3
Nailed it malaise Jun 2017 #8
honestly, respectfully, humbly disagree AmandaRuth Jun 2017 #4
He has intentionally stoked the flames of division. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #6
Tell that to the Republican gun nuts. C_U_L8R Jun 2017 #7

haele

(12,647 posts)
1. Unfortunately, it only seems to get noticed when "our side" does it.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:03 PM
Jun 2017

I don't want to make political hay either. The guy had anger issues, and he should have gotten help long ago - but because he was too proud to get help, or was too busy, or the safety net had been shredded so much he didn't feel he had any options, he went all "lone wolf" to make a political statement against his perceived enemies.
And since it was a group of congressmen, for some reason it's worse in the eyes of the media and pundits (on edit) than if it was three guys on the metro trying to do the right thing.

I just wish that it isn't going to be used as an excuse for a bunch of excitable snowglobe residents to pretend that it's just another liberal attack on their fortresses of idiotology. Because no matter how we as reasonable adults react, the authoritarian lizard brain that the conservatives nurture is going to be looking at the situation on a personal attack, and they're going to start nattering on about 2nd Amendment solutions to the 1st (and 14th) Amendment rights they think threatens them.

Words hurt them like bullets. So they're going to react with bullets. They feel they have a right to put their boots on the necks of everyone who disagrees with them.
Take care, be aware - and be legally fair.
Since the late 1980's, when it became acceptably profitable to promote a small world "protected" by fear and hate instead of a large world that embraced progress and wonder, it was always going to be political, whether we want it to be or not, or or took the high road or not.
Conservatives nowadays are pretty much all frightened, over-emotional adults who want a small, comfortable world they can be in charge of. Whether they're wealthy billionaires trying to create their own reality or mostly drunk Uncle Pete and Aunt Denise who trust their bible thumping church for support and to absolve their self-loathing to get into some form of heaven, they're all pretty much fearful bullies or sheep.

Just as they need to understand they don't have the right to just get rid of almost 200 million fellow citizens they don't want to have around them so they can be (they think) happy in their little enclaves where nothing "bad" can happen, we have to understand that we can't just pretend they don't exist as we try to advance to the best of our potential as a species.

Haele

Johonny

(20,833 posts)
2. Yeah, today is just an all around bummer
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:10 PM
Jun 2017

Feel terrible for the people involved and their families.

People will spin this anyway they want, but I'm just not feeling it today.



DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
5. The news is so much more fun when it's about Russia and obstruction of justice.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:19 PM
Jun 2017

Let's hope the victims get well soon.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
3. The rightwing is clubbing you about the head in the media right now.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:12 PM
Jun 2017

Stand still and take it if you want, but I suspect it's not in our best interest.

malaise

(268,930 posts)
8. Nailed it
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:53 PM
Jun 2017

Bangs head - sit back and be bullied to oblivion because you're afraid of criticism from the deplorables - not an effin' chance.

AmandaRuth

(3,105 posts)
4. honestly, respectfully, humbly disagree
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:18 PM
Jun 2017

i think it is exactly the time to bring politics into this, i pray that the victims will be whole and healthy, but really, this comes from the top down, and dear leader needs to step the fuck up and totally, completely disavow the violence that is spreading like its a virus.






but then again, the older I get, the less I understand, it seems.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
6. He has intentionally stoked the flames of division.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 07:21 PM
Jun 2017

He is sui generis among American presidents in that regard. Nixon flirted with us versus them politics but Trump practices it on steroids.

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