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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat did Rosenstein mean with his encrypted message??
It was unusual. Did he know something that is coming in the form of propaganda?
Russia is reporting that they may have killed al-Baghdadi in an air strike. Is that the type of information he is talking about, that may have come thru some security channels??
It's a puzzle but there may be deeper meaning in his post? Maybe he has been told that Trump is ready to declare a propaganda war on the media and the Mueller investigation?
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)kentuck
(111,079 posts)Trump may be declaring war on the "fake news" by attacking their "anonymous" sources?
Towlie
(5,324 posts)... and the ventriloquist said to the farmer, "Now let's hear what the sheep has to say", and the farmer said "That sheep's a liar!"
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)released by one of the foreign intel agencies that are supposedly sitting on these things... specifically, the pee tape, but who knows.
A more sensible, if less exciting, explanation is that rosenstein was forced to issue this weird statement solely because of the report that came out today or yesterday that Tillerson & Mattis said "he's not in charge".
The latter, more boring explanation makes sense to me only because a report like that is pretty much guaranteed to drive el Trumpo bonkers, to the point where it is totally easy to see him twisting Rosenstein's arm to do that.
alwaysinflux
(149 posts)...at all since it seems to originate from Claude Taylor, who has yet to be right about anything I know of. I think the Tillerson story makes the most sense.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Like I said. The bit about Tillerson, etc saying "he's not in charge"- a normal human would ignore it, but it's exactly the sort of thing that would make him nuts.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)be commenting on Tillerson, etc., rather than the many, many "leaks" flying around about his own investigation? I suspect it's something other.
Can't be Putin offering Comey political asylum to avoid prosecution -- that's attributed.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)specifically the report that Trump is under investigation, which seems to be to have been corroborated up and down the yin-yang at this point.
Take that with as many grains of salt as ye wish.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)too much skepticism can be as misleading as none, though. Who could ever have imagined this?
Duppers
(28,120 posts)It is most curious that the Deputy AG is issuing this statement. He must be taking orders from Trump or one of Trump's surrogates.
Then speaking of taking orders from Trump, he might be obliged to take the order to fire Mueller. Shit Creek, here we come.
See:
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/338042-trump-allies-on-the-offensive-against-special-counsel-mueller
And...
"He's not in charge': US ally's defense minister says Mattis and Tillerson ignore Trump -- and...
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029210238
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)He's not a WH, SecDef, or SecExxon spokesman. Goodness knows there are enough inflammatory "leaks" that are actually related to JD activities.
I also really doubt Rosenstein is taking any orders from Rump relating in any way to the investigation, which now specifically involves Rump. He's probably ducking phone calls altogether.
Close to 100 people were investigated and had their careers ruined and finances devastated because they were working close to Reagan during Iran-Contra. Almost 50 were convicted.
Rosenstein is undoubtedly walking a very careful line on the safe side of the law at this point. He's also going to recuse himself very soon.
Notably, Rosenstein was very careful in that famous document he provided Rump to NOT recommend firing Comey, only to serve in his advisory capacity to the president by answering the question of what reasons might legally be used to fire. Because he was investigating Flynn was not among them.
deminks
(11,014 posts)Here are my reasons:
1. He has a history of writiing letters dictated from above - re Comey firing letter
2. Trumpco and their GrOPer minions hve a history of getting people to write letters for them - re Comey letter about Hil's emails.
3. Reports are that Donnie is obsessed with anonymous sources and leakers. He can't find them.
kentuck
(111,079 posts)Donald is declaring war on the "fake news"...
Duppers
(28,120 posts)Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)Fingers crossed.
C_U_L8R
(44,999 posts)Sounds like a foreign bombshell is about to land soon
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)This seemed analogous to a hostage video IMO.
Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)This is to discredit damaging leaks...maybe Trump knows something big is coming or may it was about the WP story...there was also a Wall Street Journal story.
Vinca
(50,269 posts)Rosenstein is trying to appease both the sane and insane, but the strategy won't work.
Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)kentuck
(111,079 posts)In truth, the "fake news" which Trump attacks, is actually the "fact news". That is where we choose to get our facts. We are required to choose between Breitbart News and Tass or Washington Post and NYTimes. They have been judged over a long time by their experience with facts. That is why we choose the Times and the Post, with all their deficiencies.
In the end, the people want the information, the facts. They need to know certain "facts" in order to maintain confidence in our free and open democracy. We have to have certain information in order to survive as we have done in the past. That is why we have a Special Counsel. To get to the facts and to give people confidence in their government. If they do not get the "facts", the government could enter a critical area of division?
There is a propaganda war going on within our midst. The propaganda arm of Trump and the Republican Party is at war with the corporate media and the institutions of our present government. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)FOR GOD'S SAKE IMPEACH HIM ALREADY!!
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)Not sure what is so "encrypted" about it.
ananda
(28,858 posts)See: http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/16/1672478/-Deputy-AG-Rod-Rosenstein-s-mysterious-statement-is-the-essence-of-an-administration-in-crisis
The article offers three or four possible meanings; and it could be more than one of them, imo.
Was it a veiled threat against a specific reporter who used anonymous sources?
Was it an attempt at preemptive CYA so he won't go down with 45's ship?
Was it an order from the WH? (imo, unlikely)
etc.
malaise
(268,949 posts)PeePee is coming?
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)smooth government.
Phoenix61
(17,003 posts)My guess is there are a lot of subpoenas going out in the very near future. The more people the investigations touch, the more chatter about what is going on.