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Fri Jun 16, 2017, 11:08 AM

Robert Mueller is now looking @ Jared Kushner's work in data analytics for the Trump campaign*

* as per the 12:00 o'clock radio news

I smell vote flipping, hacking, and people being removed from being able to vote.
Remember the NSA document that Reality Winner released spoke about the Russians
trying to get into the hardware and software that controlled the operating systems
for the voting machines and central tabulators?


https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-13/russian-breach-of-39-states-threatens-future-u-s-elections

Russia’s cyberattack on the U.S. electoral system before Donald Trump’s election was far more widespread than has been publicly revealed, including incursions into voter databases and software systems in almost twice as many states as previously reported.

In Illinois, investigators found evidence that cyber intruders tried to delete or alter voter data. The hackers accessed software designed to be used by poll workers on Election Day, and in at least one state accessed a campaign finance database. Details of the wave of attacks, in the summer and fall of 2016, were provided by three people with direct knowledge of the U.S. investigation into the matter. In all, the Russian hackers hit systems in a total of 39 states, one of them said.

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Reply Robert Mueller is now looking @ Jared Kushner's work in data analytics for the Trump campaign* (Original post)
Botany Jun 2017 OP
dixiegrrrrl Jun 2017 #1
Botany Jun 2017 #4
Eyeball_Kid Jun 2017 #5
L. Coyote Jun 2017 #46
Raster Jun 2017 #7
90-percent Jun 2017 #24
onlyadream Jun 2017 #30
90-percent Jun 2017 #50
onlyadream Jun 2017 #59
dixiegrrrrl Jun 2017 #11
Lucky Luciano Jun 2017 #16
DBoon Jun 2017 #17
deminks Jun 2017 #2
FM123 Jun 2017 #9
Me. Jun 2017 #3
Eyeball_Kid Jun 2017 #6
Me. Jun 2017 #8
tblue37 Jun 2017 #10
Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #13
tblue37 Jun 2017 #14
Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #15
tblue37 Jun 2017 #20
George II Jun 2017 #28
Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #36
Leith Jun 2017 #40
tblue37 Jun 2017 #41
Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #57
flying_wahini Jun 2017 #56
Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #12
Chico Man Jun 2017 #18
WinkyDink Jun 2017 #22
LiberalLovinLug Jun 2017 #33
WinkyDink Jun 2017 #37
TheFrenchRazor Jun 2017 #48
Qutzupalotl Jun 2017 #54
FakeNoose Jun 2017 #31
Wednesdays Jun 2017 #42
FakeNoose Jun 2017 #44
NoveltySocks Jun 2017 #45
FakeNoose Jun 2017 #47
NoveltySocks Jun 2017 #49
Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #58
bettyellen Jun 2017 #19
WinkyDink Jun 2017 #21
neohippie Jun 2017 #23
neohippie Jun 2017 #39
Mr. Evil Jun 2017 #25
bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #27
George II Jun 2017 #29
Xolodno Jun 2017 #32
procon Jun 2017 #26
dchill Jun 2017 #34
Johnny2X2X Jun 2017 #35
Gothmog Jun 2017 #38
cynical_idealist Jun 2017 #43
InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2017 #51
NCjack Jun 2017 #52
golfguru Jun 2017 #53
sellitman Jun 2017 #55

Response to Botany (Original post)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 11:14 AM

1. Wonder if Jared's brother is involved??

Said brother has a bundle of money as a result of a computer app he made which is involved in Obamacare.

Dunno much more than that, but $$$ and computers+ Jared = suspicion.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 11:18 AM

4. Trump had a computer server that was linked to Ukraine/Putin in his HQ that had .....

.... something to do w/Cambridge Analytics, Steve Bannon, and Russians in London.

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Response to Botany (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 11:25 AM

5. I believe it was Alpha Bank that had direct communications with a server in Trump Tower.

Communications were methodical and were handled by a person on Trump's end. The FBI knows all about it. ALL about it.

Those who run Alpha Bank are directed by Putin.

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Response to Eyeball_Kid (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 08:32 PM

46. The domain name registered to Trump, Inc., HQ, computer elsewhere had Alpha Bank warrant

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Response to Raster (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 01:36 PM

24. Thanks for the above on Mercer

I'm interested for the obvious don't like treason reasons.

Additionally

Cambridge Analytics

is located about a mile from my childhood home on Long Island. A former farmers field, now densely populated like most of Long Island is these days.

-90% Jimmy

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Response to 90-percent (Reply #24)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 01:57 PM

30. Where? I'm right in the middle of Suffolk County?

Or do you mean Mercer's Renaissance Technologies? I pass that place all the time.

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Response to onlyadream (Reply #30)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 11:00 PM

50. renisance technologys in my home town of setauket.

I grew up in a subdivision off bennetts road off 25a. The next right off 25A past Bennetts looks like the place. It used to be Detmer Farm. Now all the farms and woods of my youth are mcmansions more prolific than Levitown in 1947.

Don't know a lot about Mercer other than he's an evil computer genius and makes the Koch Brothers look like Elizabeth Warren.

He probably poured as much money into Trump superpacs as Putin itself!


-Jim

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Response to 90-percent (Reply #50)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 09:07 AM

59. I'm very close to there

The right after Bennitts is Limroy. That's where the bike path is, Setauket Greenway Trail.
Too bad you're not here, we need to get rid of our Trump loving rep, Lee Zelden.

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Response to Botany (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 12:10 PM

11. Cambridge Analytics,Steve Bannon owned by the Mercers.

Huge money, very right wing people, idealogical twins to Koch Brothers.
Kushner may have been more involved with the server at Trump Tower, in a lackey sort of way, but he is not real bright.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 12:36 PM

16. Far to the right of even the Kochs...really terrible people. nt

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Response to Lucky Luciano (Reply #16)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 12:39 PM

17. ideologically committed racists

I despise the Kochs as much as anyone, but at least they do not fund overt white supremacy

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 11:15 AM

2. Now that might open a can of worms. nt

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Response to deminks (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 11:30 AM

9. Can opened!

Trumpy & Kushner's pal Mercer invested five million dollars into Cambridge Analytica (they are a data mining/analysis company that strategizes ways to influence voters). Birds of a feather....

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 11:15 AM

3. ALL RIGHT!

Now the Mercers are going to finally come into real focus and scrutiny

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Response to Me. (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 11:26 AM

6. It's about time. The Mercers are fascists with boatloads of money.

and they're happy to support Putin as a promoter of white nationalism.

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Response to Eyeball_Kid (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 11:30 AM

8. They're Causing More Harm In This Country, Big & Small

Then people even suspect

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Response to Me. (Reply #8)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 11:34 AM

10. The Mercers are the ones who placed Bannon and Conway into Trump's campaign. They also

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are the main financial backers of Breitbart.

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #10)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 12:32 PM

13. "Mercers", "Bannon".

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #13)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 12:33 PM

14. F'n autocorrect. nt

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #14)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 12:34 PM

15. F'n humans proofread f'n autocorrect.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #15)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 12:54 PM

20. I do proofread and correct, but the autocorrect corrects my corrections--usually more than once.

Sometimes I miss the final autocorrect change just as I hit "post."

If I have time to hang around right after posting, I will spot the mess and fix it again. (Check most of my posts and you will see how often I go back to correct such things immediately after they are posted because of a last second autocorrect.) But if I have to do something else right after posting, I might not notice until I return to DU. If someone has replied and I go to their reply, I might see that there is such an error in my own post, in which case I fix it.

OTOH, since we all have to deal with hyperactive autocorrect on our mobiles, people are usually polite enough to recognize what has happened and, even when pointing it out, do so considerately.

For example, I often spot autocorrect errors and point them out to that person, but I always do so by saying, "I think you meant 'xxxx,' but your hyperactive autocorrect has messed up your post." It would never occur to me to be sneering or rude about it.

BTW, I was able to turn off the autocorrect on my desktop, but although I went to "settings" to turn it off on my little tablet, doing so did nothing. It's like the pedestrian walk button that isn't connected and therefore doesn't have any effect on the traffic light.

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #20)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 01:52 PM

28. I've had autocorrect override my manual corrections in the past....

....amazing what will get some people's panties in a wad.

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Response to George II (Reply #28)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 02:10 PM

36. Yes it is amazing what gets them upset. I'm running Android & I don't seem to have this problem. nt

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #20)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 02:16 PM

40. On the Plus Side

We get to laugh at websites like Damn You Auto Correct.

I decided long ago to regard stuff like that as "if I can read it and understand what the person meant, let it go."

But I still grind my teeth when people put apostrophes in plurals. That is NEVER correct or preferred.

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Response to Leith (Reply #40)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 03:46 PM

41. Actually, since punctuation is conventional, and since its main purpose is to help make things

clear to readers, there are occasions when it is acceptable to use an apostrophe with a plural in order to avoid false telegraphing--i.e., a situation where the reader is likely to be confused (for example, when referring to multiples of the grade "A". Recently I wrote "mini-me's" rather than "mini-mes" to prevent that sort of confusion. It was a deliberate, carefully considered decision.

OTOH, I don't allow my students to use apostrophes to pluralize dates, like the 1960s. (BTW, autocorrect changed "pluralize" to "pluralism" TWICE and "students" to "governments" once in the preceding sentence, and I barely caught the changes in time--especially the second change to "pluralize"!)

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #41)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 07:42 AM

57. +1. For both points. . . . nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #15)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 07:35 AM

56. Now kids, don't get snippy about this.....


This isn't school.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 12:31 PM

12. Data analytics is where collusion occured. Russian bots targetted Bernie voters & shaky ones. . nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 12:46 PM

18. I 100% agree with you

It will take some very smart investigators to peel the layers back from this onion but I believe the big data analytics were absolutely used to target Russian bot campaigns.

I also wonder how many Americans could be blackmailed if their home PCs were infected with Russian born viruses.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 01:02 PM

22. My bet is that Russia has been working towards this end the minute the US converted (mostly) to

 

computer technology over manual methods.

Plus, they were simultaneously becoming lenders and owners of Kushner and Trump.

The twain met when Putin and Trump decided to make Trump the Republican candidate for President, and then make him President.

Corruption, money-laundering for Russian banks and oligarchs, vote-hacking (aka TREASON):

The Donald should be glad he lives here and not Romania, IYKWIM.

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #22)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 01:59 PM

33. This is what I think. As soon as (hackable) machines were introduced

They probably jumped up and down and clapped their hands. I wouldn't doubt they had influence on lobbyists for Diebold and other voting machine companies when their use was first being debated.

Not only the use of hackable machines to decide a democratic election, but the fact that each fricken state takes care of its own voting system ....for a federal election....is astounding. That there is no federal oversight, that their is no federal rights to open the code of these private companies to a public inspector, even if for reasons of securing the foundation of the democracy, voting.

Democrats should be demanding that, at least for the next election, we only use paper ballots and hand counting. That there be federal oversight.

You know that if this were the other way around Republcans would be screaming on Fox and every network that the election was stolen and we need to retire these machines! I don't know why Dems are so damn meek all the time.

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #33)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 02:13 PM

37. Too many Casper Milquetoasts. I'm not saying old Mayor Daley was better; I'm just sayin'.

 

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #33)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 09:53 PM

48. hear, hear. nt

 

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #33)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 03:27 AM

54. States run their own elections, but nothing says we can't

start a grassroots campaign in every state to use paper ballots in 2018.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 01:59 PM

31. YES! Thank God they're finally looking at this

We've been harping on DU about this since November. (Or maybe before that, I don't know.)

There has to be a racist angle, somehow the black voters were targeted, and yes I guess the Bernie voters too.


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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #31)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 04:30 PM

42. How would they get info on Bernie voters?

I can see how they could get info on African American voters, but how could they tell if someone voted for Bernie?

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Response to Wednesdays (Reply #42)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 07:54 PM

44. I was answering Bernardo La Paz

He seems to think the Russian bots had targeted the Bernie-bros.
Not sure how they got their identities, but maybe it was from another hack.
Don't ever doubt the Russians, they can hack anything.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #44)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 08:27 PM

45. Maybe from the DNC hack? Or maybe from faulty firewalls on NGP VAN?

The story that got a lot of attention was how the Sanders campaign got a glimpse of Clinton voter files due to what the company said was a software error in Dec. 2015. However, that apparently wasn't the only time the company experienced such an error.

I wonder if there were other, far more nefarious actors looking at/collecting the information in both Dem primary campaign voter files?

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/democrats-data-breach-vulnerability-216955

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Response to NoveltySocks (Reply #45)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 09:25 PM

47. I'm referring to this post on DU from last month

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029036037

They've pretty much proven that the voting machines were hacked in Wisconsin, and very likely in other states. If you recall the swing states that went for Trump and killed Hillary's hopes of winning were Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan and one other. (maybe North Carolina)

The voting machines in these states were probably hacked and it didn't take much to tip the entire state to RED instead of BLUE. Someone else posted on the same thread that they thought Florida was also hacked. It would be very hard to prove because we've done away with paper ballots in most states. So there's nothing physical we can recount to compare with the computer numbers.

The chilling thing is that these machines were all installed and programmed more than 4 years ago. The conservatives in each of these states have arranged to have the hacked machines installed and they just waited for the right time.

Sorry I don't have anything to say about the followers of Bernie Sanders, that wasn't my original point. Maybe Bernardo can tell you what that was about. Bernardo says that Robert Mueller is looking into the connection between Jared Kushner and the Data Analytics people who probably are guilty as hell.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #47)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 10:45 PM

49. Gotchya. I've been following the info on the voting machines, particularly WI and MI since

they appear the most egregious to me.

The timing of the machines' programming and installation is interesting, like there was a plan in place for some time.

I wonder if there were a couple of different hacking ops c. 2015/16 that crossed paths—a domestic one (aligned in some way with the GOP, like a think tank, campaign, etc.) and a Russian one—and that perhaps the Russians observed/became aware of what the domestic group was doing/planning to do and gathered info on those intentions.

Maybe such info comprises (at least some of) what the Russians are using to blackmail certain high-up members of the GOP? Might explain why they are in such lock-step with Cheeto.

Of course, the GOP generally aligns with whatever disgusting "leader" that party manages to cough up.

I'm just trying to put into words some things that have troubled me for awhile. Everything definitely seems shady as hell.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #44)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 07:52 AM

58. Analytics works by cross-tabulating likes & friends & retweets & reposts & word clouds


They analyze info from a number of people's Facebook postings and tweets and other social media posts.

Then they correlate likes, retweets, and reposts to deepen the relationships.

When they identify people who stochastically fall into groups (by Bayesian analysis and other techniques), they concentrate on identified Bernie voters / leaners or undecideds or greens. Particularly if they live in swing states, but also elsewhere because of synergistic effects that can reach back into swing states. They run bots that retweet and repost articles and tweets that might sour the voter on Hillary.

Thus there was a deluge of social media traffic about investigations into emails and Hillary and emails and the Clinton Foundation and emails.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Analytica

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_analysis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_mining#Data_Mining

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 12:49 PM

19. To see what data they had and where it came from?

 

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 01:00 PM

21. OMG. This might be the mother lode right here. Golden Boy Jared might be the biggest traitor of

 

them all.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 01:27 PM

23. Yuri Milner has ties to Russian mob

One of the largest owners of Facebook, Yuri Milner has ties to the Russian mafia. He also has ownership in a lot of Silicon Valley tech companies.

Remember how the fake news stories were pushed to specific users through social media like Facebook

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/14/media/facebook-fake-news-france-election/index.html

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/27/facebook-found-efforts-to-sway-presidential-election-elect-trump.html


Facebook says some groups tried to use its platform to sway the outcome of the U.S. presidential election.

In a case study of the 2016 presidential election, the company said it found several instances of "information operations," its term for governments and organizations who attempt to sway political opinion by spreading fake news and other nefarious tactics.

The case study was included in Facebook's white paper on "information operations." It also detailed ways it was combating "fake news" and other misinformation spread by adding new technologies and creating more security features.

The company did not specify who the targets were or who was behind the attacks. However, it said its own findings do "not contradict" the U.S. Director of National Intelligence report on Jan. 6. The report was on Russian efforts to influence the election, and claimed Russian President Vladimir Putin was behind a campaign to get his "clear preference," Donald Trump into the White House.



It's probably not coincidences that he also owns Digital Skies, Zynga, a company that has tons of Facebook games and has ties to Kushner.

https://www.incomediary.com/who-owns-facebook-the-10-richest-facebook-shareholders

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/3286-facebook-are-you-interfacing-with-the-russian-mafia--kgb



Gangsters R Us

A number of Silicon Valley watchers, and business writers (see here and here) have noted DST's ties to notorious oligarch Alisher Usmanov, but relatively few have expressed any concern. Many of the media reports, however, have treated DST's CEO Yuri Milner as if he were an investment rock star, a young Russian Warren Buffet with an uncanny eye for profit potential in tech stocks. But Usmanov, who provided DST's startup money and is the company's largest investor (he owns 35 percent, reportedly) is widely recognized as a friend of Putin and one of the most feared of the Russian Mafia dons. Known as "the hard man of Russia," Usmanov is actually an Uzbek with a prison record and a violent past. Perhaps best known outside of Russia as one of the largest share owners of Arsenal, the English Premier League soccer team, Usmanov's extensive business holdings inside the former Soviet Union include mines, metals factories, media properties, and mobile phones.

Like Vito Corleone (the Marlon Brando character in The Godfather), Usmanov is known for making offers people are afraid to refuse. One who did refuse and is no longer around to talk about it, is Leonid Rozhetskin, a millionaire Russian-American, Harvard-trained lawyer, who wouldn't sell his 25.1 percent share in Megafon, the Russian mobile phone service provider. In fact, Rozhetskin had filed suit in New York, alleging he had been threatened with physical harm unless he sold his stake. In May 2008 Rozhetskin disappeared from his vacation villa in Latvia; only a pool of his blood remained. And Usmanov ended up in control of Megafon. All indications are that Rozhetskin was murdered. His mother points to the Putin government as the responsible culprit. But Usmanov is the Putin underling most likely to have ordered the hit. The New York-based media-celebrity blog gawker.com refers to Usmanov


Yuri Milner also has ties to Kushner

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/03/03/the-web-of-relationships-between-team-trump-and-russia/?utm_term=.c25a5cc8be35


Trump’s son-in-law (Ivanka’s husband) also met with Kislyak during the period between Election Day and the inauguration, according to the New York Times. Kushner also has some loose connections to Russian business interests, according to the Times, including an investment from tech investor Yuri Milner in a real estate investment company and a friendship with the wife of oligarch Roman Abramovich. (She was invited to the inauguration as Ivanka Trump’s guest.)

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 01:42 PM

25. Do not forget Mitch McConnell

emphatically stating that the next president should choose the next Supreme Court Justice. How could he confidently make that statement if he didn't know the next president wasn't going to be a republican? The fix was in and he knew it! Someone on Muellers team needs to start putting the screws to him.

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Response to Mr. Evil (Reply #25)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 01:48 PM

27. Where's Rudy?

Been quiet these months

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #27)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 01:54 PM

29. Think he's in a safe house in Moscow.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #27)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 01:59 PM

32. Speaking gigs.

Talking about his leadership under crisis during 9/11.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 01:48 PM

26. My hats' off to all the agents who are working to uncover this nest of traitors.

I can't imagine how they keep track of everything when it must be like pulling a loose thread on a sweater and watching as it unravels to reveal still more knots and skeins.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 02:02 PM

34. In a related story: Soylent Green is PEOPLE!

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 02:09 PM

35. Collusion, they shared voter lists

I've always maintained that at the very least, the Trump campaign shared lists of voters for the Russians to target with Fake News on Facebook. The Russian misinformation campaign was too sophisticated and it aligned with the campaign every step of the way. They provided their voter analytics to the Russians and they helped coordinate which voters were vulnerable to fake stories about Hillary. This is all pretty obvious.

Also obvious was that they coordinated data dumps from the hacking with the Russians for maximum effect. And there are even cases of the campaign going public with hacked data before the hacked data was released to the public.

Data analytics would also be necessary to target voting machines to hack. They'd have to know which ones they could hack and alter the tallies without it being obvious to statisticians.

Bottom line, Trump was not elected to the Presidency, he stole the Presidency with help from Putin.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 02:14 PM

38. Did the trump campaign share data with the russians?

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 11:05 PM

51. You know damn well JK'S guilty as hell... will look good in orange.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 11:07 PM

52. Expect Putin paid the wages for employees of Data Analytics. nt

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 11:11 PM

53. Russians stupid to pick ILLINOIS

 

There was no way Hillary was going to lose Illinois.
The Russians are stupider than I thought.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 07:28 AM

55. We need Rachel to look into this.

Some one high profile.

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