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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 10:58 AM Jun 2017

GOP Confident Enough About Rigged Fraudulent Elections To Do Anything They Want.

We are now to the point of passing top secret legislation that no one knows anything about. What is happening on the health care bill is unprecedented in the history of the country. McConnell and some of his cronies are the culprits. What they are doing is NOT democratic. It is banana Republic dictatorship.

So they must be confident in phony slanted elections that protect them after the 2016 debacle. We now know the GOP with the help of Russia gamed the election up and down the ballot. Hillary won by all standards and the key states were stolen, results skewed, vote totals changed, machines hacked, ballot stuffed, voters suppressed and you name it all the dirty tricks in the book.

The GOP is the mafia, syndicate, drug cartel, Cosa Rostra all tied up into one. And the GOP Congress is the result. They are worse than crooks and liars. McConnell, Ryan and their ilk are serial killers, murderers, rapist et al of the highest order. And they are violent in their policies. Now some of that violence has come to visit them.

They are the know nothings, do nothings and be nothings of the planet. And we will all be destroyed unless we destroy their evil agenda in the end.

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GOP Confident Enough About Rigged Fraudulent Elections To Do Anything They Want. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Jun 2017 OP
GOP Oden Jun 2017 #1
That is the end game I have been fearing Generic Brad Jun 2017 #2
Yeah, right? Ligyron Jun 2017 #6
No it isn't the only reason mythology Jun 2017 #21
We have been asleep and too nice to these scumbags. BSdetect Jun 2017 #3
A lot of this post I agree with, w a few exceptions (the violence and the hopelessness). FreepFryer Jun 2017 #4
It would be foolish to assume that they haven't already stolen the 2018 election Orrex Jun 2017 #5
I have a bad feeling about GA-6 on Tues may be flipped already JoeOtterbein Jun 2017 #7
Well then, Democrats better get out and vote. yardwork Jun 2017 #8
I am fearful of this too. They are just too smug. LiberalLovinLug Jun 2017 #9
what really gives them confidence they can do anything and get away with it is talk radio certainot Jun 2017 #10
what will it take to get the democrats to address the issue of insecure elections? tomp Jun 2017 #11
The sad thing is it may take war to stop them. Initech Jun 2017 #12
I'm afraid I agree not fooled Jun 2017 #13
This is exactly the case. ananda Jun 2017 #14
Sometimes things seem hopeless. But they are not. Blue_true Jun 2017 #15
Preach, brother Nemesis. sandensea Jun 2017 #16
The Reason That The GOP Game Has A Works Is Stupid Voters. TheMastersNemesis Jun 2017 #19
The old divide-and-conquer sandensea Jun 2017 #20
Everything they concoct is a scheme Mr. Evil Jun 2017 #17
last time i posted something like this here... 0rganism Jun 2017 #18

Ligyron

(7,629 posts)
6. Yeah, right?
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 01:03 PM
Jun 2017

Like, how did McTurtle know if he held that Supreme Court opening for almost a year that a Teabagger could be inserted once a GOP candidate was selected?

They're getting this down to a science and we better figure out how to stop them with these elections.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
21. No it isn't the only reason
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 04:16 PM
Jun 2017

We have two parties, no matter how badly they screw up, they won't be out of power long. Also, especially with regards to the House, they have a fair amount of built in advantage right now both due to gerrymandering, but also that smaller states tend to favor Republicans right now which gives them an amount of outsized power.

Also the fact that our society has become more accurately politically sorted (there are no Republicans who are more left than any Democrats which is a recent event) and turnout is key, appealing to your base to drive turnout is a winning strategy. Things like the AHCA is pretty popular with the Republican base.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
3. We have been asleep and too nice to these scumbags.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 11:38 AM
Jun 2017

They have upped the anti and now we are struggling to make any headway in elections.

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
4. A lot of this post I agree with, w a few exceptions (the violence and the hopelessness).
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 11:51 AM
Jun 2017

First para - I'd swap 'autocracy' for 'dictatorship' because you are speaking in the context of McConnell, and if I understand your reasoning, McConnell is unliaterally acting on behalf of some shared corrupt interest.

Second para - agree completely.

Third para is where the post goes off the rails. 'serial killers, murderers, rapist et al of the highest order' is extreme and unsupported if left unexplained. And then the post centers around two uses of the same idea (violent/violence) to round it out with a sense of fear. Also - it's Cosa Nostra ('our thing'). So on this para I agree with what you COULD have said, but instead the argument devolved.

Fourth para - do you mean know nothings, or Know Nothings? It's an interesting alliteration, and the argument could explore more about what that construction means to its great benefit. However, again, the argument vanishes into violence and hopelessness. 'we will all be destroyed' and 'unless we destroy' adds nothing other than fear.

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
8. Well then, Democrats better get out and vote.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 01:21 PM
Jun 2017

And get all our friends, neighbors, and relatives to vote Democratic.

Even if the Democratic candidate isn't quite good enough. We'd better vote.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
9. I am fearful of this too. They are just too smug.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 01:24 PM
Jun 2017

Watching Jeff Sessions at his questioning. The way he almost laughed his way through it. He should be quaking in his boots but he's as happy as a dead pig in the sunshine.




The first time I was uneasy about winning was before November when Trump "half-joked" that he'd BETTER win this election, or all of it wouldn't have been worth it. Or something like that. This was when all polls showed Hillary as a shoe-in. I thought he looked pretty sure of himself for someone destined to lose by every poll.

I fear they have not only obscene gerrymandering, and Crosscheck, and a propaganda domination on the radio airwaves in Red States, plus Russian trolls to help spread fake news, but now, if all else fails, they have even greater abilities to alter vote totals in the machines as well.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
10. what really gives them confidence they can do anything and get away with it is talk radio
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 01:33 PM
Jun 2017

and the idiocy of liberal orgs and the dem party ignoring that media monopoly the last 30 years.

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
11. what will it take to get the democrats to address the issue of insecure elections?
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 01:39 PM
Jun 2017

do they not want to win? seriously.

Initech

(100,067 posts)
12. The sad thing is it may take war to stop them.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 01:43 PM
Jun 2017

If that's what they want, it's a fight I'm willing to fight!

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
13. I'm afraid I agree
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 01:43 PM
Jun 2017

Why else would mcturdle feel that it's OK to force wildly unpopular legislation like dumpcare down the throat of the American people?

We are living in a fascist oligarchy, not a democracy.

Sure hope I'm wrong, in 2018 and 2020.

pukes including their allies the kochs have figured out how to game the American electoral system, top to bottom, and to manipulate the legislative process. Have heard commentary from multiple experts interviewed that what used to be checks and balances because of comity and tradition--but which are not protected in law--have been essentially blown up by dump and mcturdle. Democracy schmeocracy.





ananda

(28,858 posts)
14. This is exactly the case.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 01:45 PM
Jun 2017

They don't think they will be held accountable for anything.

Our justice system is so compromised they have reason for
feeling that way.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. Sometimes things seem hopeless. But they are not.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 01:52 PM
Jun 2017

I am not gay, but there was a time when I felt completely hopeless about LGBTQ Americans and in other countries ever beings able to come out and say what they were born as.

I was a young teen during Nixon and a young adult during Reagan. My first vote for President was for Jimmy Carter. I tell you, I felt hopeless during Nixon's years and even worse as Reagan seemingly ripped the critical fabric of our nation apart. I was enraged and dismayed when Bush was declared the winner in 2000.

But one thing that I have learned is that excesses get corrected and progress happens. There was a reason why Martin Luther King, a learned person, declared that the long arc of history bends toward Justice. It truly does and has done so down through history.

There are some here on DU that insist that America has become more conservative. I can not disagree more. Real progress has been encoded in the country's DNA and we won't step back from that.

The election tricks that republicans are pulling are the actions of a desperate ideology that sees the future slipping away from it. We must fight it wisely and with purpose, there is no doubt in my mind that we win, history is on our side.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
19. The Reason That The GOP Game Has A Works Is Stupid Voters.
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 03:20 PM
Jun 2017

Voters seem to make their decision for the most ignorant and stupidest of reasons. At least there is some consistency there. The point to my post is that the GOP is acting like they have it in the bag. And we need to prove them wrong. No matter how much they do there is a point at which they will not win.

The Democrats need to challenge them more on their activities. I do not believe that the Democrats challenging will or does dampen the vote or discourage voters. Being nice is not an option and neither is being civil.

I do not claim that I am right about what I post. I am just telling my point of view on things. And I do post things that perhaps I should not have posted.


sandensea

(21,625 posts)
20. The old divide-and-conquer
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 03:36 PM
Jun 2017

Keep'em all pointing fingers at each other over their petty differences, while we rob them blind.

Luckily, there are limits to all this obtuseness - and the GOPee may have just crossed it with health care (and just wait until the economy starts tanking as consumers pull back on fears their premiums will double or triple!).

Question is: will the Rethugs be able to pull off enough voter suppression and electoral fraud to make the difference.

Mr. Evil

(2,841 posts)
17. Everything they concoct is a scheme
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 02:02 PM
Jun 2017

to scam Americans out of as much of their money as possible. And they're getting away with it in broad daylight each and every day

0rganism

(23,944 posts)
18. last time i posted something like this here...
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 02:30 PM
Jun 2017

i caught shit for "depressing turnout" with my negative outlook

but to me this is a real problem and i am worried our democracy, such as it was, has essentially ended. i have no new ideas for how to proceed other than "make them steal it".

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