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retrowire

(10,345 posts)
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 09:21 AM Jun 2017

17 yr old Muslim girl beaten to death with bats...

I hope you're all okay.

I hope you're not shaken to the point where you can no longer stand to be strong.

I hope you remember your greatest strength.

Love.

I hope you love today. I hope you share love today. I hope you are loved today.

Lend a hand. Lend a hug. Share a kiss. Tell a joke. Be human.

Go and love.

If there are any words from religion that are most important, it's just these three.

Love One Another.

For her sake. For the millions of others that will or have ever died because of a world of confused hate.

Go love one another. Don't let love die under the foot of this evil.

I love you.

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17 yr old Muslim girl beaten to death with bats... (Original Post) retrowire Jun 2017 OP
Do you have a link to this horrific act? Kilgore Jun 2017 #1
Here you are. retrowire Jun 2017 #2
Thank you Kilgore Jun 2017 #5
This is a local story....here is a more accurate link HipChick Jun 2017 #6
The authorities seem very intent on NOT calling this a hate crime... regnaD kciN Jun 2017 #18
Oh, no, of course not, it's just as if these creeps attacked people coming raccoon Jun 2017 #22
... Lucinda Jun 2017 #3
we have to catch all these people driving around looking for 'marks'. They're all over my Tx. area. Sunlei Jun 2017 #4
The Virginia police don't know if it's a hate crime IronLionZion Jun 2017 #14
They don't WANT TO KNOW it is a hate crime. More paperwork, for one thing. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #19
The Virginia Pigs don't know if it's a hate crime????? DK504 Jun 2017 #24
How bloody awful! pandr32 Jun 2017 #23
so sorry. raging moderate Jun 2017 #7
"Love One Another". Thank YOU 💖 furtheradu Jun 2017 #8
My heart is so heavy. redwitch Jun 2017 #9
Sad.. Stuart G Jun 2017 #10
The Youngbloods - Get Together IronLionZion Jun 2017 #11
Great Song godsentme Jun 2017 #13
Get accustomed to it, folks . . . OldRedneck Jun 2017 #12
He wasn't an American either... trentwestcott Jun 2017 #32
OMG...this has got to stop. Where is the bring together ppl speech from the so called pres iluvtennis Jun 2017 #15
Men, get your shit together. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 #16
Just when I think lillypaddle Jun 2017 #17
Schoolmate bpj62 Jun 2017 #20
They have made an arrest hack89 Jun 2017 #21
Not a hate crime? NOT A HATE CRIME? 3catwoman3 Jun 2017 #25
Trump is indeed responsible for anti-Muslim sentiment... doodsaq Jun 2017 #28
Well, then, how about a broader definition of a hate crime? 3catwoman3 Jun 2017 #31
Hmmm trentwestcott Jun 2017 #29
The article above says it was road rage? GusBob Jun 2017 #30
Said started with a road rage incident- he was in car they were on bikes snooper2 Jun 2017 #34
;-( elleng Jun 2017 #26
those are words from humanity, not religion Skittles Jun 2017 #27
Yes indeed. nt cwydro Jun 2017 #33

raccoon

(31,110 posts)
22. Oh, no, of course not, it's just as if these creeps attacked people coming
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 11:51 AM
Jun 2017

from a Southern Baptist church.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
4. we have to catch all these people driving around looking for 'marks'. They're all over my Tx. area.
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 09:46 AM
Jun 2017

they used to call the cars/trucks of (usually) youths, teens out 'wilding'.

People in my area are afraid to walk alone to the store, to work, to my local school. Not many own cars here.

Within the past year, I've heard people shout nigger more then once!, seen people throw stuff at walkers and had one 8 year old girl walking to school- come up to me while I was in front yard, crying asking for help a driver tried to grab her.

IronLionZion

(45,416 posts)
14. The Virginia police don't know if it's a hate crime
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 11:31 AM
Jun 2017

as if beating a human being to death with baseball bats is something done randomly for fun or to rob someone.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
24. The Virginia Pigs don't know if it's a hate crime?????
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 12:02 PM
Jun 2017

Not sure what could be a more clear case than a hate crime. Not sure these fucking bastards didn't sit around and wait for Muslims decided that hey let's go beat a kid to death on the spur of the moment....could it be a hate crime......

redwitch

(14,944 posts)
9. My heart is so heavy.
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 11:03 AM
Jun 2017

I cannot imagine the grief of her parents and loved ones. Love IS the answer, thanks retrowire.

IronLionZion

(45,416 posts)
11. The Youngbloods - Get Together
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 11:13 AM
Jun 2017


Love is but a song to sing
Fear's the way we die
You can make the mountains ring
Or make the angels cry
Though the bird is on the wing
And you may not know why
Come on people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another
Right now
Some may come and some may go
We shall surely pass
When the one that left us here
Returns for us at last
We are but a moment's sunlight
Fading in the grass
Come on people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another
Right now
Come on people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another
Right now
Come on people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another
Right now
If you hear the song I sing
You will understand (listen!)
 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
12. Get accustomed to it, folks . . .
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 11:26 AM
Jun 2017

. . . this is Trump's America.

He has unleashed to dark, evil forces that have always lain just below the surface. He has now made it okay to attack people with whom we disagree . . . remember his rallies where he urged his supporters to "rough 'em up," "get him out of here," "I'll pay your legal fees" . . . remember that?

We decent people ignore those comments but there are evil sonsofbitches out there who take Trump at his word.

In the mid-60's, when I was in college in Alabama, I was the night announcer at a local radio station. The old guy who was the night watchman at the complex where the station was located would stop in to talk as he made his rounds. He was proud of his membership in the Klan; carried a pistol on his hip and an ax handle in his truck (hickory ax handle makes a great club). He was one of the Klansmen who burned a bus carrying "Freedom Riders" near Anniston, AL.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Riders

I don't recall the details, but, after one of the famous murders in Alabama where civil rights workers were shot to death, he explained things to me.

He told me that George Wallace, because he was governor, had to be nice to these "n###er lovers" because of his position. But, really, George wanted them dead. So, we Klansmen are doing George's dirty work for him.

Nothing has changed. The knuckle-draggers and mouth-breathers are doing Trump's dirty work for him.

Which is why I now have a loaded .45 under the front seat of my truck, my Mini Cooper, and my wife's Ford Explorer.

bpj62

(999 posts)
20. Schoolmate
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 11:42 AM
Jun 2017

She was a schoolmate of 2 of my children. We got an email last night from the principal letting us know that we would be hearing some bad news in the media. This part of Fairfax is very multicultural. It was either a hate crime or possibly a gang initiation killing because MS -13 is very active in this area. Either way it is a horrific crime.

3catwoman3

(23,970 posts)
25. Not a hate crime? NOT A HATE CRIME?
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 12:11 PM
Jun 2017

What the bloody fucking hell ELSE would it be?

I totally hold Trump responsible for making it OK for people to act like this.

doodsaq

(120 posts)
28. Trump is indeed responsible for anti-Muslim sentiment...
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 08:58 PM
Jun 2017

...but this sort of knee-jerk reaction "it must be a hate crime" is a little presumptuous, don't you think? From the article, it seems equally plausible right now that this was just a murderous thug who was set off by a road rage incident.

3catwoman3

(23,970 posts)
31. Well, then, how about a broader definition of a hate crime?
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:45 PM
Jun 2017

An act committed by someone with a hate/rage filled heart who behaves inexcusably and unjustifiably. Rational people with decent hearts do not behave this way, no matter what. This had to be a hate-filled person.

I would feel the same way no matter who his victim was.

 

trentwestcott

(83 posts)
29. Hmmm
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:07 PM
Jun 2017

I'm not sure how much of the young Hispanic vote Trump got out of VA. I'm not even sure that a guy named Darwin Torres would hold a favorable opinion of Trump.

Maybe we were wrong to jump to conclusions on this one in particular.

There are people in this country who are Muslims. There are people in this country who are victims of senseless violence. Sometimes there is overlap between these two groups based on circumstances other than the victim's religion.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
30. The article above says it was road rage?
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:27 PM
Jun 2017

Seems as if there is a million stupid reasons for stupid morons to kill

Skittles

(153,142 posts)
27. those are words from humanity, not religion
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 08:43 PM
Jun 2017

you do not need religion to be a decent, kind, caring person

just sayin'

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