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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 07:54 PM Jun 2017

There is a whole LOT of speculation about Flynn flipping.

From Sen. Whitehouse tells Wolf Blitzer there is a lot of evidence Flynn is a cooperating witness with the FBI. He says, "That's a conclusion from all of the evidence and some experience in dealing with this."




Claude Taylor reported this on May 25

1. This is what I have from a source with knowledge of the investigation. "Flynn has begun the proffer process with U.S. Atty Office.



2. This involves him sitting down with the FBI & USAG and proferring what he could offer in a trial against his co-conspirators. If his

proffered info is deemed reliable, the government will file a 5k.1 motion, requesting a downward sentencing departure. This is absolute

4. fact. His proffer statement has begun". That's the full statement I received.

*clerical error by yours truly. It's a 5K1.1 motion. Error is mine. Sue me.


In addition to Claude, another poster I respect indicated he thought Flynn has happened as well. PostimusMaximus did/does the Trump/Russia wiki that is now hosted on Reddit that newspapers and magazines used to catch up and make their own timeline when they decided it was all a big deal.

TrumpRussia wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/TrumpInvestigation/wiki/doc

Here is what he said today. I'll link the first tweet and if you are interested in the thread, click to read/see.

Since A senator reported it now I'll chime in...



I had heard from my own sources that Flynn was flipped around the time Mueller showed up. (We knew he was looking for a deal much earlier)

Don't know why they decided to take the offer finally (assuming its true based on senator's comments). Maybe firing Comey changed things.

Or maybe Mueller himself decided to flip people FBI wouldn't prior.

Didn't ask for details. Would still like 100 percent confirmation, but since it was a senator saying it I don't mind chatting.

I'd still wait on a direct statement before saying with 0 doubt Flynn has been flipped. Reporting trends indicate is plausible.




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There is a whole LOT of speculation about Flynn flipping. (Original Post) MelissaB Jun 2017 OP
I probably should have only posted the video of Sen. Whitehouse. MelissaB Jun 2017 #1
I saw him live malaise Jun 2017 #2
Before this is over they will all turn on each other. panader0 Jun 2017 #5
Time to stock up on my favorite food and drink malaise Jun 2017 #9
Popcorn time!!! bresue Jun 2017 #12
Way more that that malaise Jun 2017 #13
I will bring the rum......you the champaign bresue Jun 2017 #14
You must be from Illinois GeoWilliam750 Jun 2017 #17
Close...Iowa....lol! bresue Jun 2017 #18
I'll bring Blue Nun malaise Jun 2017 #19
I remember Blue Nun. tazkcmo Jun 2017 #27
I think it's important to juxtapose Taylor or Mensch to a Senator or other credible source Mr. Ected Jun 2017 #4
I agree completely. MelissaB Jun 2017 #8
Hoping all of this is true. Mrs. Overall Jun 2017 #3
manipulation of a witness. mopinko Jun 2017 #6
He better have dirt on both 45 and Pence or else he should receive no deal. LonePirate Jun 2017 #7
I hope he has dirt on McConnell and Ryan too!!! bresue Jun 2017 #11
Thank you for posting.... bresue Jun 2017 #10
CNN has had breaking news tonight on TV about more undisclosed Flynn meetings wishstar Jun 2017 #15
Article not to be missed: Michael Flynn Worked With Foreign Cyberweapons Group That Sold Spyware Use MelissaB Jun 2017 #16
Excellent information. Grateful am I. byronius Jun 2017 #21
And that sentence from Mr. Garland.... dawnie51 Jun 2017 #20
I've been saying this for months. Flynn cannot wait to sing like a bird. GreenEyedLefty Jun 2017 #22
Trump's focus on getting FBI to drop investigation of Flynn... thesquanderer Jun 2017 #23
He is guilty of treason which is punishable by death. pangaia Jun 2017 #24
I wonder what they would have to do to keep Flynn quiet... Baconator Jun 2017 #25
I'm AFRAID of what they might do to keep Flynn quiet NastyRiffraff Jun 2017 #26
This was reported months ago as well.. disillusioned73 Jun 2017 #28

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
1. I probably should have only posted the video of Sen. Whitehouse.
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 08:07 PM
Jun 2017

He is credible and the twitter speculation may add nothing to this thread for anyone other than myself.

In addition, I don't think this is the first time the Senator has said this.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
4. I think it's important to juxtapose Taylor or Mensch to a Senator or other credible source
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 08:12 PM
Jun 2017

They are certainly lightning rods and we need to know when their reports are substantiated by mass media.

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
15. CNN has had breaking news tonight on TV about more undisclosed Flynn meetings
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 08:38 PM
Jun 2017

House committee today revealed Flynn had additional foreign meetings (including one involving a Saudi/Russian nuclear deal) besides the ones that have been previously publicized and he failed to disclose any of his numerous foreign contacts, trips and meetings on his security clearance forms where he was supposed to list all such contacts in the past 7 years. Failure to report has penalty of 5 years in prison. There was a major article (Newsweek, maybe NY Times too, I can't recall) this weekend detailing all of Flynn's extensive business dealings with foreigners, including Iranians and Saudi's.

He is in big trouble and Mueller's team are developing considerable leverage to pressure him to flip.

Erin Burnett show broke the story, all of her guests said this makes Trump's desire to shut down Flynn investigation even more troubling and suspicious.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
16. Article not to be missed: Michael Flynn Worked With Foreign Cyberweapons Group That Sold Spyware Use
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 08:49 PM
Jun 2017
Michael Flynn Worked With Foreign Cyberweapons Group That Sold Spyware Used Against Political Dissidents

While serving as a top campaign adviser to Donald Trump, Flynn worked with firms linked to NSO Group — which develops spyware and sells it to governments.

By Paul Blumenthal , Jessica Schulberg

WASHINGTON ― While serving as a top campaign aide to Donald Trump, former national security adviser Michael Flynn made tens of thousands of dollars on the side advising a company that sold surveillance technology that repressive governments used to monitor activists and journalists.

Flynn, who resigned in February after mischaracterizing his conversations with the Russian ambassador to the U.S., has already come under scrutiny for taking money from foreign outfits. Federal investigators began probing Flynn’s lobbying efforts on behalf of a Dutch company led by a businessman with ties to the Turkish government earlier this year. Flynn’s moonlighting wasn’t typical: Most people at the top level of major presidential campaigns do not simultaneously lobby for any entity, especially not foreign governments. It’s also unusual for former U.S. intelligence officials to work with foreign cybersecurity outfits.

... snip

Prominent human rights activists and political dissidents have reported being targeted by NSO’s technology. On August 10, 2016, Ahmed Mansoor, an internationally recognized Emirati human rights activist, received a text message prompting him to click a link to read “new secrets” about detainees abused in UAE prisons. He got a similar text the next day. But Mansoor, who had already been repeatedly targeted by hackers, knew better than to click the links. Instead, he forwarded the messages to Citizen Lab.

Citizen Lab soon determined that NSO Group’s malware exploited an undisclosed mobile phone vulnerability, known as a zero-day exploit, that enabled its customers ― that is, foreign governments ― to surveil a target’s phone after the target clicked the link included in the phishing text message. If Mansoor had clicked that link, his “phone would have become a digital spy in his pocket, capable of employing his phone camera and microphone to snoop on activity in the vicinity of the device, recording his WhatsApp and Viber calls, logging messages sent in mobile chat apps, and tracking his movements,” Citizen Lab wrote in a report.

More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-flynn-nso-group-spyware_us_59468386e4b06bb7d273c398




GreenEyedLefty

(2,073 posts)
22. I've been saying this for months. Flynn cannot wait to sing like a bird.
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 09:39 PM
Jun 2017

He just needed a decent deal.

Now... to keep him alive.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
23. Trump's focus on getting FBI to drop investigation of Flynn...
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:05 PM
Jun 2017

...makes a lot of sense if Flynn has damaging information on Trump. To avoid just this scenario.

All the pieces fall into place, unless you think Trump was going out on a limb for Flynn merely out of the goodness of his heart.

If there's a "there" there, this may be the key.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
24. He is guilty of treason which is punishable by death.
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:43 PM
Jun 2017

If he does flip, the best deal he should be offered is life in prison instead of hanging by the neck.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
26. I'm AFRAID of what they might do to keep Flynn quiet
Mon Jun 19, 2017, 11:21 PM
Jun 2017

I put nothing past this bunch. Absolutely nothing. If he does flip he'll need witness protection.

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
28. This was reported months ago as well..
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 11:26 AM
Jun 2017

I hope it's accurate, but until things are official.. I would not hold my breathe..

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