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vi5

(13,305 posts)
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 01:45 PM Jun 2017

Nothing to worry about with Trumpcare, right?

Remember:

They need 60 votes to pass anything and there are only 52 Republican Senators.
Before they can vote on it they'll need to hand the bill over to their most liberal, moderate Senators to let them take an ax to it and make it much less partisan and conservative.
The Republican Senators from blue states won't vote for it because that would turn off their constituents and they will definitely lose their seats. And they can't get primaried from the right because anyone any more conservative in a blue state will never win in those locations.
If they can't get the 60 votes needed they won't use the nuclear option because people will be outraged and then they'll pay the price at the polls. So they'll definitely want and need to play it safe.
The only way it can pass is through reconciliation and that means it has to be budget/deficit neutral, so they'll have to take a lot of the bad stuff out.

I didn't use to think all of this stuff, but then over the past however many years some very kind, smart people taught me all about civics and the way government works and pointed out the error of my previous way of thinking so I know all of this stuff is true.

























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Nothing to worry about with Trumpcare, right? (Original Post) vi5 Jun 2017 OP
It is passable via reconciliation, otherwise they wouldnt be doing all this. Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #1
51 votes needed with less than 10 hrs. for debate. Cattledog Jun 2017 #2
VS a year debate Obamacare. Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #3
Well said, don't forget tax cuts MiddleClass Jun 2017 #5
Text of the health bill will be released Thursday per Buzzfeed. Cattledog Jun 2017 #4

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
1. It is passable via reconciliation, otherwise they wouldnt be doing all this.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 01:50 PM
Jun 2017

Saying take the bad stuff out?

By gutting Medicaid and ending the exchanges and subsidies it becomes deficit neutral and more.

Any experts want to weigh in here? I sure as hell am not one.

MiddleClass

(888 posts)
5. Well said, don't forget tax cuts
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 02:38 PM
Jun 2017

Cutting all Obama care, taxes, while giving rich people tax credits for their health care.

Gutting peoples health care while giving tax cuts to the rich does lower the deficit.

Unbelievable to me it probably fits into the reconciliation rules,

so it's budget, 50 votes + the vice president, most people get screwed, Republicans lose the next election in a wipeout.

Everybody but mostly rich get screwed, America Mimics Russia, trumps job is done

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