Is there hope in GA 6 or is it done?

[redstateblues]

[GaYellowDawg]

1. It's done.

Goddamn Georgia.

[kacekwl]

54. Well,

I hope they get what they voted for.

[Blue_Adept]

2. How about we count all the votes first?

Man, the handwringing around this place drives me nuts. The minute the polls closed it was doom and gloom.

[yallerdawg]

5. Half today's vote is still out?

Absentee ballots are out?

It ain't over yet!!!!

[redstateblues]

14. I'm not hand wringing. I just like to have the truth.

I can't stand watching the numbers- I check in between innings.

[BootinUp]

3. There was never more than the slimmest

Of chances.

[brush]

15. That's not quite right. He nearly won the earlier race. Only 2% shy of winning...

the seat out right. He beat the other candidates by a huge margin.

Outreach Chairman Sanders was too busy backing a mayoral candidate in Nebraska who would ultimately lose to help out in Georgia, and I don't know how the DNC managed to screw this up either. They should have thrown all resources at that earlier race.

We should even be going thru this now.

[hrmjustin]

4. Dem leaning absentees are not in yet so there is hope but...

...losing hope here.

[Gravitycollapse]

6. Too close to call.

[lester94111]

7. There is hope...

The last I check this minute Ossoff gained by 4,000

[stillsoleft]

8. MSNBC has him in the lead, 60% in

[spooky3]

10. yes--I don't know why their results are so far ahead of NYTimes and the official site.

[hrmjustin]

11. They have the numbers wrong. it is Handel up by 5000.

[Grown2Hate]

22. It's more like they're using different numbers

altogether? Showing 60% in on MSNBC but with fewer votes total than NYTimes with 49% in? Weird... wonder what the discrepancy is.

[hrmjustin]

28. MSNBC put in the wrong numbers.

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/georgia-congressional-runoff-ossoff-handel?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

[Honeycombe8]

37. She's now ahead by almost 10,000. 53% vs 47% Ossoff. 66% reporting. Unlikely he'll win. nt

[Different Drummer]

9. Draw your own conclusions.

U.S. House 6th District
Precincts: 82 / 208 (39% reporting)
Karen Handel (R) 84,462 (52%)
Jon Ossoff (D) 79,281 (48%)
Last Updated: 6/20/2017 9:15:40 PM Vote Total: 163,743

[NRaleighLiberal]

12. 5 points now, trending in the wrong direction. Seems done (SHIT)

[Demsrule86]

13. Votes coming in from Cobb where I used to live...very conservative.

Cobb country...it was always a reach.

[oswaldactedalone]

16. Ossoff with a 4000 vote lead

With 60 per cent in. Hard to know where the outstanding vote will come from at least according to MSNBC

[hrmjustin]

21. He is down by 5000

MSNBC numbers are wrong.

[_BravoMan_]

17. That's what GA get for using unverifiable election machines..

Remember Cleland?

[Hoyt]

27. GOPers like Newt Gingrich have been taking that district for decades, even before

these type election machines. Tommy Price won by 23 percentage points in 2016.

[standingtall]

18. He is down bout 5 points in 538

I guess the good news is 78% of Cobb is in,and only 49% of Delkalb,but then there is fulton with only 34%

[Stuckinthebush]

19. Done

Cobbsters are going to throw it to her.

It was a good try. Hey, the Dems showed that there is a lot of anger and fear out there. I think the mid terms will be a major referendum on Trump....if the Russians don't steal it again.

[Doodley]

20. I would like to congratulate the true winner of this election. Note I say "true" winner.

[DeminPennswoods]

23. Cornell Belcher seemed to think Handel was

underperforming on election day, fwiw.

[Loki Liesmith]

24. Counting on moderate Republicans to flip misguided

They are what we thought they were.

[liberalla]

25. Ossoff 51% Handel 49%

83,875 Ossoff

79,868 Handel

with 60% in

right now, on rachel, MSNBC

[Gravitycollapse]

30. MSNBC's reports do not match any other outlet. They're probably wrong.

[liberalla]

36. nytimes is based on 48% precincts in, MSNBC is now showing 66% in /// and ossoff is behind

[hrmjustin]

26. Shit! Handel up by 9000

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/georgia-congressional-runoff-ossoff-handel?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

[LesterKasai]

29. why are the numbers so different between NYT and MSNBC?

[hrmjustin]

31. MSNBC put in the wrong numbers.

They are the same now.

[JI7]

32. maybe in 2018

[redstateblues]

33. 53-47. WTF. What a nightmare. Not even close.

[Dawson Leery]

34. It's done.

Unless it is made in a dark blue state, I will be buying from foreign labor. "God's Country" can fuck off.

[ImpeachTheGOP]

35. I don't believe there was ever any hope.

They have black box voting in Georgia. Do you really think they would let a Democrat win?

[Loki Liesmith]

38. It ain't the machines

It's the people.

This is what they want.

[ImpeachTheGOP]

40. I know.

The machines don't help.

[bucolic_frolic]

39. It's done.

Someone made the comment somewhere this week, and I can't recall where I read it,
that Trump realized that the voters to reach are the WWF mentality. Yeah, that's why
we don't win. We're too learned, too intellectual. We need to aim low and put some red
meat and potatoes into the gruel. Because if those folks keep voting, or until they are
turned off by empty promises, we're operating at a deficit. Trump appeals to the below
average mentality, people like himself.

[Honeycombe8]

45. I could tell you a couple of things the Dems have against them....

and that is on the minds of many, but my post would get removed, I'm sure.

There are a couple of things that are a road too far for millions. And it hits them in their daily lives.

[bucolic_frolic]

49. Well, I won't ask because I don't really need to know

however valid your points, but I will say it seems to me like we're fighting
human nature on some level that we either don't understand or are not
putting our finger on it, and we're fighting these fundamental elements
with money, yet the other side has plenty of that too. So we need an
augmented strategy. We fight with logic and issues, they fight with gut
feelings, and they are delighted that we paint ourselves with issues that
they find unpopular.

[Honeycombe8]

50. +1 nt

[Not Ruth]

55. A local election is nothing like a Presidential election

Local elections are decided by popular vote, they can be gerrymandered, the polling is likely to be less accurate, the list goes on. GA06 had very little in common with 2016.

[redstateblues]

41. This is a bitter pill. I really got sucked in on this

We didn't really have a chance. Fucking polling.

[asiliveandbreathe]

42. Scandel Handel...now your disgusting rep GA...welcome to

a renewed war on Women..with that good 'ol theological bent...so all the WH admin posts were delicately chosen - republican gerrymandered strong holds....surprise surprise.....

[DemKittyNC]

43. I have never been this depressed in my entire life

I don't even see the point in caring anymore when people are hell bent on remaining ignorant, blind, and self-distructing. If the tRump administration isn't enoug to wake people up and get them out to vote in the best interests for our country then nothing will ever make a difference.

Sorry for being so depressing. I just had to say my piece on the matter and I am out. More power to those who can remain positive and optomistic. You are strong than I will ever be.

[AngryAmish]

52. The problem is white people.

[DemKittyNC]

57. White people?

Not sure I follow?

I am white and never once voted for a republican and never will. Not all white people are voting republican or in the corner of the GOP.

The big problem is the lack of education in this country and the GOP's continuing War against the schools and teachers. They make every effort to keep the public dumb because that is always a big Win for the GOP.

Once dumb then keep hitting them with the constant propaganda - either outright by the GOP party or using Russia hackers to constantly spread lies and deceptions and bingo - republicans will win every time and they are getting good at it!

2018 isn't going to save us because Democrats work in the opposite ways, as decent human beings should however it doesn't win elections. We try to send people back to school to get educated which is a good thing but people also need to work two damn jobs just to keep their heads above water and can't afford to do that. It's just more work for people so the majority tune out. We try to protect human rights however people usually couldn't care less unless it directly affects their lives.

I could go on and on but its essentially almost like a catch 22 scenario with our party. I don't know what the answer is, I guess no one does or we wouldn't be in this mess but something has to change or we are going to be wiped out.

[LenaBaby61]

44. Is there hope in GA 6 or is it done?

In my heart of hearts OP, I never thought or was excited about thinking that Ossoff was going to beat that ignorant, shady, right-winged clown Handel, yet I kept hearing that the people of the 6th district were well-educated, not exactly tRumputin lovers and that Hillary only lost that district to tRumputin by a smidgen in 2016. Kudos to Ossoff though, he tried and the workers in his campaign party worked their asses off I hear/read.

The "good" folks of Cobb County put Handle over. Hope they enjoy their health care WHILE they have it.

TBH, 2018 and 2020 isn't looking too good for Dems either. Between Dems being lethargic in turning out to vote in off-year elections, voter-suppression on 'roids lead by the GOP and ruskie intervention into our elections with what will be a much more coordinated effort and probably across 50 states, Dems may "officially" become a foot note party, and who wants to pin all of their hopes on Mueller and his investigations which may take MANY years to complete? Losing health care is an issue that cannot wait. I don't trust the GOP to impeach tRumputin, as long as they can continue destroying this country and bring us world of Kleptocracy that their boy putin loves and enjoys.

Oh well .....

[redstateblues]

46. I was foolish to send money when there was no real

Chance to win this. I feel like I got tricked into a weekly donation without realizing it until a few weeks went by. Sucks

[Honeycombe8]

47. It didn't help that Ossoff didn't live in the district.

I understand that to people who voted for him, this wasn't that big a deal. But IMO, it's a big deal. I would be hard pressed to vote for someone as my district rep who didn't live in the district. Of course, if it was Repub or Dem, I'd vote Dem. But that's me. It no doubt played at least some part in the loss. He couldn't even vote for himself. A district rep needs to live in the district. Given the opponent, moderates would vote for him despite the residence, but it's that on-the-fence vote where it might matter.

[Not Ruth]

53. He said that he would move if he won

[Honeycombe8]

56. I know. Easy to say. Not the same as actually living there.

It makes a difference, when every difference matters.

I read that his reasons changed. But whatever the reason, it's important that a candidate live in the area he wants to represent. If it's important to live where his wife wants to, who is to say he would move to the district later, if it wife wanted to live elsewhere? Maybe she gets a job in another district and wants to walk to work. It's clear he puts his wife's needs above the needs of those who live in the district he wants to represent.

It's a bigger deal to some people than to others.

[fallout87]

48. It's done

Nate Silver just called it.

[DeminPennswoods]

51. Most of the vote left is Dem, but

it might not be enough to offset Handel's lead.

FWIW, NYT live estimate is that there are about 38k votes left @ D +8.7. This would yield about 3k votes plus whatever absentees are left.