About who was to blame about informing the public about Russian interference...

[Baitball Blogger]

...prior to the election, why is everyone being blamed but the media?

I hear blame being pointed to Obama for not being more forceful, but Obama did sign a document confirming that Russia was meddling in our elections and it was signed by the intelligence agencies. Why didn't the media give that information top priority instead of the distractions that they did chose to report?

And why is Trump blaming Obama for not being more forceful, when we all know that Trump would have been the last person to support Obama in the endeavor to inform the public. He would have had Fake FoxNews, Breibart and Infowars to rally the troops on the call that Obama was trying to steal the election. We all know that's how it would have gone down.

We have a serious problem in this country with all this alternate news bullshit.

[hurple]

1. Yes we do have a problem

with the right-wing propaganda network. And, until it is tramped down the Democratic Party has very little chance, if any, to retake the gov't.

Everytime I think, surely nobody is stupid enough to believe *this*, the American public goes and proves me wrong. I never thought anybody could fall for the princess trumpie bullshit, but they did. And still are. It's pathetic.

[Baitball Blogger]

4. THIS is the reason why we should STOP worrying about what the 36% think.

We should use this as the prime example of why we never again should allow the sentiments of the fragile right to decide what is newsworthy.

[B2G]

2. Do you really think the liberal media outlets

wouldn't have reported on this had they known the details?

I don't think so.

[Baitball Blogger]

3. I think they did based on Stephanie Ruhle's comments.

She said that instead of reporting it, the big news of the day at that time was "the Hollywood Access" story. Not sure which one.

[B2G]

5. My point really was

what details did they even have to report on then?

I'm not blaming Obama, but I specifically remember him stating on numerous occasions that nothing untoward had happened...right up to the late October timeframe.

[Baitball Blogger]

6. Maybe he was being cautious because of what Trump was saying at the same time.

Also, we only learned in the last week that the Russians were capable cyber-attacking voter information.

[B2G]

7. If we just learned this last week,

why blame the media for lack of coverage in the run up to the election?

[Baitball Blogger]

8. Because they knew that the Russians were tampering with the election back then.

Obama signed a document to that effect, with the intelligence agency signing with him. THAT DOCUMENT is what the media should have reported. Investigation would have determined the extent. It's about following a timeline.

[B2G]

9. What document? Link? nt

[Baitball Blogger]

11. MSNBC on the Stephanie Ruhle hour brought it up. They mentioned the document.

But a search on the internet shows that once the election was over, the Obama Administration worked hard to make sure that Trump did not bury the information.


http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/09/politics/obama-orders-review-into-russian-hacking-of-2016-election/index.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/01/us/politics/obama-trump-russia-election-hacking.html

[B2G]

13. That was AFTER the election.

Your OP was addressing what happened BEFORE it.

[Baitball Blogger]

14. I am repeating what MSNBC was saying.

I was still watching the news show as I started this thread. And, no sooner did I post this thread that Stephanie Ruhle, herself, said that at the time the information came out, they were reporting on Hollywood Access. She was criticizing the media on her own.

[Baitball Blogger]

15. Here, I found a timeline that reveals what we knew before the election:

Oct. 7, 2016: In a joint statement, the Department of Homeland Security and the Director of National Intelligence says, “The US Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations… We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia’s senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.” But two other stories dominate the news cycle: WikiLeaks begins publishing stolen emails from the account of Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, and Trump’s infamous Access Hollywood tapes become public.

http://billmoyers.com/story/the-trump-resistance-plan-a-timeline-russia-and-president-trump/


Also, Obama made the attempt to reach out to Mitch McConnell for a bipartisan agreement. He was denied and McConnell threatened to claim that Obama was being partisan.

 That was the claim in a bombshell Washington Post article over the weekend, which reported that the CIA has concluded not only that Russia was involved in hacking those Democratic accounts but that it did so, and leaked what it obtained, to help Trump’s campaign. The biggest reveal in the piece was that the Obama administration became so convinced by the intelligence community’s consensus about the Russian involvement that it directed top intelligence officials to brief a bipartisan assembly of congressional leaders in September, with the aim of generating support for a bipartisan statement about the intrusion into US politics. But McConnell blocked it.

https://www.thenation.com/article/the-craven-power-politics-of-mitch-mcconnell/

[Leith]

10. Yertle the Turtle Threatened Obama If He Made It Known

Yertle said that he would go on reichwing media and say that Obama was lying and being partisan. You know what would have happened next: the media would have exploded with repeating yertle's comments and repeated them several hundred thousand times. It would have made things much worse.

[Baitball Blogger]

12. Exactly. Mitch McConnell threatened Obama by telling him his intentions were partisan.

Obama tried to come out with a bipartisan announcement. The Republican leader obstructed. And, yet, another reason why we should not wait for Republicans to see the light.